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Images posted to a Chinese Internet forum on Thursday show what is claimed to be the rear casing for an iPad mini with a high-density retina screen.

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The images, which emerged first on Weiphone, show what looks like the rear case for an iPad mini. Notably, the writing and logo on the case are bright blue, where current mini models have black or silver detailing.

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The parts shown in the images also appear to be thicker than current builds for the iPad mini. This fact is the cause of speculation that these pictures show off components from a forthcoming Retina iPad mini.

When Apple improved the resolution on the full-size iPad to Retina quality, the device wound up somewhat thicker than its predecessor so as to accommodate the bigger battery necessary to power the Retina screen. It is likely that a Retina iPad mini will have to undergo the same design modifications.

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An iPad mini with Retina display has been expected from Apple essentially since the company revealed the current model, which sports the same resolution as the iPad 2. Currently, rumors suggest that the next mini will pack a 324ppi display. Bringing Retina to the device, though, will not be cheap. Observers estimate that doing so will add 30 percent to the total cost of the device.
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Thicker? I can see why, from an engineering perspective. I'm a tiny bit surprised from a marketing perspective.
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Retina iPad mini?

 

 

I returned my iPad mini after trying for a week to tolerate the screen (this after coming from an iPad 3). Just couldn't stand it. 

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Blue logo obviously means its retina, duhhh
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Why would Apple make the text and logo blue? Fake.
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post #6 of 64
Thicker?

Not interested
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Thicker?

Not interested


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"Retina" will trump a few mm rather easily.

 

OTOH that would seem to diminish the odds that the display tech would be IGZO as the potential power savings from that display type would have allowed a similar battery size from what I've read.

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Perhaps the blue coloring means the bezels will come in colors other than Black and White? Like the rumor that the next iPhones will be available in different colors.
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I'd buy that...
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post
Why would apple make the text and logo blue? Fake.

 

They've not yet been cut out, is all.


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Thicker?

Not interested

 

The retina iPads were thicker. Plenty of people remained interested in them. The mini would still be thinner than the iPad, wouldn't it?

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"Retina" will trump a few mm rather easily.

OTOH that would seem to diminish the odds that the display tech would be IGZO as the potential power savings from that display type would have allowed a similar battery size from what I've read.

So IGZO is not ready for prime time yet? Anyone would have an idea why?
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They've not yet been cut out, is all.

 

The retina iPads were thicker. Plenty of people remained interested in them. The mini would still be thinner than the iPad, wouldn't it?

 

Pretty much this. When I had the iPad mini, I was amazed by how thin it was. Adding a little bit more thickness back is worth it for decent battery life with a Retina display IMHO. The form-factor was damn near perfect to me, just couldn't get past the screen. Hell I'd even be willing to pay a little bit more money than the current $329 starting price.

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Currently, rumors suggest that the next mini will pack a 324ppi display.

How is AppleInsider still can't figure out that the iPhone has a 326 PPI display, not a 324 PPI display? This has been common knowledge in the tech world since 2010.

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Why would apple make the text and logo blue? Fake.

Maybe they want colors on the iPad mini like on the iPod Nano in comparison to the iPod Classic which means the back logos and the front edge? I don't think that's the most likely scenario just to see how it could fit if this is authentic.

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The retina iPads were thicker. Plenty of people remained interested in them. The mini would still be thinner than the iPad, wouldn't it?

Until we know we don't know, right? 0.1mm is thicker, technically speaking but hardly a big deal. I am very happy with the mini and have no problem with the resolution. For the ones that can't handle less than retina, I am sure the added thickness will be an acceptable compromise. 

 

The rest of the world will just think it is awesome and get busy using it.

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Pretty much this. When I had the iPad mini, I was amazed by how thin it was. Adding a little bit more thickness back is worth it for decent battery life with a Retina display IMHO. The form-factor was damn near perfect to me, just couldn't get past the screen. Hell I'd even be willing to pay a little bit more money than the current $329 starting price.

But how much thicker is still acceptable? How much heavier is still acceptable? These are important considerations with handheld devices, and with the iPad mini in particular. I think the thickness is currently low enough that adding a little bit won't be an issue but weight is less forgiving. Hopefully they won't have to increase the battery by 70% (or more) to make the ASIC push 2048x1536 pixels to the display and still last 10 hours.

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post #17 of 64
A few mm extra thickness would be a lot more noticeable on a smaller device like the Mini compared to the full size iPad.
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I hope this is fake, the bright blue lettering on the back looks chintzy and for the Mini to go down the same thicker and heavier route as the iPad 3 is a technological and marketing faux-pas. The Mini's main attraction is its light weight and compact body. With all of Apple's resources at its disposal they should be able to do better than this - if its real?
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The logo in those shots (ignoring that it's blue) doesn't look right either... it looks like the bottom part of the Apple is skewed somehow, extended to the right too far under the bite.
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Retina iPad mini?

 

 

I returned my iPad mini after trying for a week to tolerate the screen (this after coming from an iPad 3). Just couldn't stand it. 

 

Yup. Exactly how I felt after playing with them whenever I go into the Apple Store. 

 

It's too small for my taste too, but I could live with that in exchange for the weight if it were Retina. The combination of text being too small and standard resolution display is just unbearable after the clarity of the 3rd iPad. I left the jaggies behind and I'm not going back.

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I'm not feeling that blue Apple logo at all, if this is for real. I much prefer my all stealth black iPad Mini.

 

It also looks a bit chubbier, which is to be expected if it is indeed retina. Expect it to also be slightly heavier, have slightly worse battery life and also to get a bit warmer when using it.

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How is AppleInsider still can't figure out that the iPhone has a 326 PPI display, not a 324 PPI display? This has been common knowledge in the tech world since 2010.
Maybe they want colors on the iPad mini like on the iPod Nano in comparison to the iPod Classic which means the back logos and the front edge? I don't think that's the most likely scenario just to see how it could fit if this is authentic.

 

Unless it got edited is says the ipad mini not iphone. assume the mini gets the same resolution as retina ipad it would work out to be 324 ppi.

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But how much thicker is still acceptable? How much heavier is still acceptable? These are important considerations with handheld devices, and with the iPad mini in particular. I think the thickness is currently low enough that adding a little bit won't be an issue but weight is less forgiving. Hopefully they won't have to increase the battery by 70% (or more) to make the ASIC push 2048x1536 pixels to the display and still last 10 hours.

It doesn't matter, why even question it?  I mean- there's no way it is even possible for the mini to be Retina this year.  You've said so yourself 400 times even though others mentioned it could.  We'll know in a few months if you've been dead wrong or not.

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I'm not feeling that blue Apple logo at all, if this is for real. I much prefer my all stealth black iPad Mini.

 

It also looks a bit chubbier, which is to be expected if it is indeed retina. Expect it to also be slightly heavier, have slightly worse battery life and also to get a bit warmer when using it.

For sure.  But a tiny amount of thickness and weight to get Retina is fine by me.  I would assume battery life would stay the same (although real world usage might drop slightly).  But yes... for sure it'll get warmer.  I've actually noticed my iPhone 5 generates a decent amount more heat than my 4S just using the aluminum (which is to be expected) and being thinner.

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"Retina" will trump a few mm rather easily.

 

OTOH that would seem to diminish the odds that the display tech would be IGZO as the potential power savings from that display type would have allowed a similar battery size from what I've read.


I don't know if IGZO will indeed be used or not. But I'd say this: A larger battery (or one with higher power density) is still needed even if the display is much more power-efficient. The necessary boost in processor and memory will also demand more juice.

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For sure.  But a tiny amount of thickness and weight to get Retina is fine by me.  I would assume battery life would stay the same (although real world usage might drop slightly).  But yes... for sure it'll get warmer.  I've actually noticed my iPhone 5 generates a decent amount more heat than my 4S just using the aluminum (which is to be expected) and being thinner.

I'm basing my battery life estimate on my experience from going from iPad 2 to iPad 3. It's not a huge difference, but there is a difference, and the iPad 2 lasted slightly longer for me than when doing the same tasks on the iPad 3.

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Had the Mini since November...  Love it...

 

No problem with the screen resolution....(Maybe my eyes are just too bad for the retina display to be a big deal to me...)

 

No problem reading it with my bi-focal glasses or bifocal contacts or no glasses/contact at all....

 

A retina would be nice and an extra mm would be no big deal, but the extra weight could be an issue......

 

I would be more interested in an A6x in the Mini more than the retina display....

 

The light weight and compact size are why I greatly prefer the mini over the full iPad....

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The light weight and compact size are why I greatly prefer the mini over the full iPad....

I agree. I'm actually posting this from my toilet, and I had a choice of either bringing my ipad 3, to accompany me into the bathroom, or an ipad mini, and i chose the mini. I still like my ipad 3 a lot, i just dont like to carry it around or hold it in my hands when using it, compared to the mini.

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Unless it got edited is says the ipad mini not iphone. assume the mini gets the same resolution as retina ipad it would work out to be 324 ppi.

You think the 9.7" iPad is only 2 PPI less than the iPhone? It's 264 PPI which is double the original 132 PPI for the iPad. The IPad mini is 163 PPI which is the same as the original iPhone which was doubled to 326 PPI when they doubled the resolution. See how that works? Apple deliberately choose 7.85" for the iPad mini because it means they can use the 163 PPI display knowledge and tech they at least have lots of experience with and likely the equipment they already own. There is also no history of Apple making a non-Retina display Retina and not doubling the resolution which is also doubling the PPI which is 4x the number of pixels it had previously. I see absolutely no reason to expect Apple to go wonky the next time.

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It doesn't matter, why even question it?  I mean- there's no way it is even possible for the mini to be Retina this year.  You've said so yourself 400 times even though others mentioned it could.  We'll know in a few months if you've been dead wrong or not.

Dead wrong about what? Why question what? Why isn't possible again?

I've stated many times that I don't think it will come this year because they started with an ASIC that is a generation behind and I think that it will at least need to include the Rogue 6 GPU which isn't even out yet. That should arrive this Summer and therefore make that aspect possible, albeit unlikely if Apple follows their current trend. In no way have I ever said it was impossible and have also stated many times that I hope it does happen this year.

Perhaps the success of the initial launch combined with the Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7 et al. competitors means that's it's in Apple's best interests to make this happen ASAP even at a lose of profit margin. That would be atypical for Apple but it's not impossible.
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I doubt it.. it's a fake.. blue logo, thicker, and there are other rumors that claim a different screen tech that would not require the power, so would not require a thicker unit.

My guess.. made a mock up based on what happened with iPad 3 Retina.. I mean.. common people, CNC machines these days... hell, a stand alone crafters edition can be had for around 2k or less.. depends on attachments, software, etc..

Or college kid with access to workshop CNC machine in lab..

Someones having fun.. and everyone's eating it up..
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Why would Apple make the text and logo blue? Fake.

I originally thought it might be a protective layer of plastic, but the color isn't right for what I usually see used for protecting materials, and usually there is some wrinkling, distortion and "fraying" at the edges.
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I doubt it.. it's a fake.. blue logo, thicker, and there are other rumors that claim a different screen tech that would not require the power, so would not require a thicker unit.

My guess.. made a mock up based on what happened with iPad 3 Retina.. I mean.. common people, CNC machines these days... hell, a stand alone crafters edition can be had for around 2k or less.. depends on attachments, software, etc..

Or college kid with access to workshop CNC machine in lab..

Someones having fun.. and everyone's eating it up..

Being a mock up doesn't mean it's fake, and why would someone make a mockup to fool people but then make it thicker and use a colour that screams fake?

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Damn you Huddler!

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Damn you Huddler!

 

What'd it do this time? Oh, just a double post?

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Why would Apple make the text and logo blue? Fake.

That would be a lot of hours of programming/machining and surface conditioning to simply make a fake....  Not to mention designing the tooling to hold the blank at all of the angle necessary to machine it.....

 

Possible, but unlikely....

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Being a mock up doesn't mean it's fake, and why would someone make a mockup to fool people but then make it thicker and use a colour that screams fake?

If it's a prototype, I don't see why, because Apple's prototype shop is in Cupertino.

The finish doesn't look to me like what students would produce either. If that's a student's work, I'd sure like to hire him/her.
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Thicker?

Not interested


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I agree. Stop wasting our time.

(also; Thicker? Not interested)

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They've not yet been cut out, is all.

The retina iPads were thicker. Plenty of people remained interested in them. The mini would still be thinner than the iPad, wouldn't it?
Not if they finally thin the full size more.
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I agree. I'm actually posting this from my toilet, and I had a choice of either bringing my ipad 3, to accompany me into the bathroom, or an ipad mini, and i chose the mini. I still like my ipad 3 a lot, i just dont like to carry it around or hold it in my hands when using it, compared to the mini.

 

TMI. Waaaay TMI.

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I don't know if IGZO will indeed be used or not. But I'd say this: A larger battery (or one with higher power density) is still needed even if the display is much more power-efficient. The necessary boost in processor and memory will also demand more juice.

Good point, those would be upped as well wouldn't they? Both out of necessity and competition. But, OTOH, the power savings from the IGZO might leave the overhead necessary for the other components increased demands: so it stays the same rather than getting slimmer and lighter....

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