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Wow.... I've had the impression that Chromebooks were for people that "just needed the basics". Which is sort of funny when Android users say iOS is for "simple people", but they would in turn undoubtedly praise Chrome OS. It seems it has Facebook, Office type programs, web browser, and not much else. Honestly an iPad is half the price and has far more functionality. There are plenty of good cases with keyboards for the iPad as well.

 

It seems almost hilarious that Google is pricing it this way. Not to mention the fact that it has 5 hour battery life and USB 2.0.... maybe it's to test if there's any sort of Android/Chrome/Google loyalty?

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Originally Posted by Shameer Mulji View Post
What makes you so sure about that?

 

I'm looking at the same two OS' as everyone else, I think. I'm also looking at the same iMac design progression, too. 


Eventually that foot is gonna glide right on down there and you'll touch the screen. Slide it back up for viewing media.

 

Working out a way to make that as simple as possible is, well, Apple's forte.


And let's assume your theory is correct, are you implying that down the road there will be no market for traditional laptop / notebooks? just curious.

 

Oh, no, just that it's possible Apple won't make them and everyone else will, still clinging to the past. 

 

Okay, maybe I am. But it's far enough out still that I don't want to trim all of the fat off of the idea yet.

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post #43 of 226

have you ever seen a more shameful rip off of a apple commerical

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That thing looks weird.  It looks like a prototype of a laptop not the real thing.  Almost like a prop th-t you'd see in a furniture store. :lol:  And yeah a pretty shameless ripoff of the MacBook.  And I thought HP was bad with the Envy. 1eek.gif

That's it, I knew it reminded me of something.  I said children's toy but that's even better, furniture store prop is spot on!

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Yeah but the problem with installing Windows on it is that you will have less than 15 GBs of storage after it's all said and done...then having to install Pro apps? That takes another 7+ GBs to install (all the Adobe apps.)

 

Ridiculous.

Oh, but you can have everything else in the cloud - then if you're somewhere with no Wi-Fi, you can just sit and look at it, wondering why you didn't buy a Mac.

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Originally Posted by Sector7G View Post
have you ever seen a more shameful rip off of a apple commerical

 

Only in parody form. And even some of the parodies don't do it as well.

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They just ripped this Chromebook to shreds on the live Vergecast (over at The Verge). I agree there is almost no audience for this thing beyond Google's own employees.

 

Well, then there's a huge difference in opinion over there because the article I just read on the Verge said the laptop was beautiful and well made.

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Ignore the OS completely as you can install Windows on it and it is Linux so you do have other options. Just look at the HW and see if it's a better deal over a 13" RMBP.

OK. So it starts out as being comparable in price to an rMBP with a fraction of the storage capacity. Then, you add another $100-200 for a legal WIndows license for the computer. Then you realize that Windows filled up your 32 GB SSD. You also realize that there are no drivers for it, so it limps along on generic drivers.

What next?
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Yeah but the problem with installing Windows on it is that you will have less than 15 GBs of storage after it's all said and done...then having to install Pro apps? That takes another 7+ GBs to install (all the Adobe apps.)

Ridiculous.

Excellent point. Hopefully it has a mini-PCIe card that will take much larger SSDs.

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Not the good ones.

Because they're moving it to tablets on the portable side and large-scale touchscreens on the desktop side.

I'm predicting that Apple's entire lineup of computers, including iMacs, will include touch screens. Furthermore I believe that whatever comes after OS X will be fully touch optimized. Touchscreens aren't going to replace your track pad, but they do add functionality. I've had to catch myself a number of times as I reached forward to click a link on the screen itself. It just makes sense to have a screen be touchable, even if you can use a computer without touching the screen.
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32 gigs of storage on the device, and then a terabyte of cloud… but after three years you have to pay for it if you want to add more files. Hilarious.

And how does this compare to iCloud cost?

 

Apple website:

5GB of free storage is plenty for most people. But if you need extra space, you can always buy additional storage.

Additional Storage Price

10GB

$20/year

15GB total iCloud storage

20GB

$40/year

25GB total iCloud storage

50GB

$100/year

55GB total iCloud storage

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Oh, but you can have everything else in the cloud - then if you're somewhere with no Wi-Fi, you can just sit and look at it, wondering why you didn't buy a Mac.

I assume you're being sarcastic? I don't plan on ever owning a Windows PC, I was simply rebutting to his comment.

post #53 of 226
Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
Touchscreens aren't going to replace your track pad

 

I disagree, but I'm more radical in that regard than most.


Originally Posted by mstone View Post
And how does this compare to iCloud cost?

 

I was speaking more from an actual storage standpoint. It compares poorly to the lifespan of a regular terabyte hard drive, certainly. And you don't have to have Wi-Fi or pay for LTE to use one of those!

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post #54 of 226
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Nexus 4, 7, 10 and now ChromeBook. Will these four products be enough to fill a Google store?

that is if they have more than a handful of the nexus 4 and 7 in stock. As for the nexus 10 and this one, they are/will be a flop.

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Look ! Apple's latest commercial.

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I'm predicting that Apple's entire lineup of computers, including iMacs, will include touch screens. Furthermore I believe that whatever comes after OS X will be fully touch optimized. Touchscreens aren't going to replace your track pad, but they do add functionality. I've had to catch myself a number of times as I reached forward to click a link on the screen itself. It just makes sense to have a screen be touchable, even if you can use a computer without touching the screen.

I bet you have not tried many of the current touch screen laptops. The touchscreens are laughable. IMO touchscreen is a feeble attempt by PC makers to make up for their pathetic trackpads, by using an equally pathetic touchscreen. 

post #57 of 226
Right now it's more comparable to the MBP but I think the next MBA is likely to get the Retina addition which means it's likely to be even closer in cost to the Chromebook Pixel, although I'd still say it'll cost more, but have at least 64GB. Will the next MBA double the from the 1440x900 to 2880x1800 (255 PPI) or stick with the 13" RMBP's resolution of 2560x1600 (227 PPI)? To me is seems better all around to go with the latter method.

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I disagree, but I'm more radical in that regard than most.

So future generations will think Gorilla Glass got it's name because you get gorilla arms when using it?

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I was speaking more from an actual storage standpoint. It compares poorly to the lifespan of a regular terabyte hard drive, certainly. And you don't have to have Wi-Fi or pay for LTE to use one of those!

A notebook that is designed to be used exclusively with a web browser and online apps is expected to be connected to the Internet. If you do a lot of offline work then this is not the device to buy.

 

I would think that a photo editing app would be desirable but it appears that Picassa currently only supports Win and Mac. I'd expect to see an online app pretty soon. Also it needs more editing features like adding text to images, clone stamping, and compositing. Otherwise it is sort of crippled.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
So future generations will think Gorilla Glass got it's name because you get gorilla arms when using it?

 

Ha! No, the screens will be then where your hands go now. Apple will make the technology come to you, unlike seemingly every other contemporary solution wherein you are being forced to go to the technology. 

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Ignore the OS completely as you can install Windows on it and it is Linux so you do have other options. Just look at the HW and see if it's a better deal over a 13" RMBP.

So add a few more hundred bucks to make the thing work. 

And as others have pointed out, not much storage left.

post #61 of 226
Chrome OS sucks, Chrome books are stripped down, cheap competitors to the Mac, why do they not create a tablet for sakes instead of a laptop, the pixel density for this is the only market leading improvement, again why try to emerge a 3rd OS for computers, apple is finally destroying the market meaning google is creating a slaughter house.
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Ignore the OS completely as you can install Windows on it and it is Linux so you do have other options. Just look at the HW and see if it's a better deal over a 13" RMBP.

Is it? for 300 more you get a much faster processor, twice the ram, 4x the ssd storage, a much better OS and ecosystem, build quality.

Is it?

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Is it? for 300 more you get a much faster processor, twice the ram, 4x the ssd storage, a much better OS and ecosystem, build quality.
Is it?

That is the point I am making. Even ignoring the OS completely the machine is not a good price compared to the 13" RMBP.

PS: It's only a $200 difference for the 13" RMBP with a 2.5GHz Core-i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, USB 3.0, TB, etc.

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post #64 of 226
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Oh, but you can have everything else in the cloud - then if you're somewhere with no Wi-Fi, you can just sit and look at it, wondering why you didn't buy a Mac.

so much for the ultra portability 

post #65 of 226
If and when laptops get so thin and light, and the hinge so flexible that you could fold it backwards on itself and use it just like a tablet ... then a touchscreen tablet makes some kind of sense.

That day isn't here yet.
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And how does this compare to iCloud cost?

 

 

LOL

 

Someone doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

iCloud is an OPTIONAL online storage system - which just so happens to do more than simply store.

 

The Pixiedust or whatever ... forces you into having less storage than computers of over a decade ago and then pay for more.

 

Simple. And quite stupid.

 

$1300 for a fisher price Google netbook with 32gb storage... riiiiight

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Only in parody form. And even some of the parodies don't do it as well.

This is what Cook means when he says he wants people to do their own stuff.

post #68 of 226

WTF is this? i thought the whole idea of chromebooks was to be (1) very simple and (2) very cheap. $500 and under. which made up for its other limitations. so now here is a very expensive premium model, and the main difference is a retina touch screen and better trackpad, but still with the same limitations (ok, 1TB worth of them). ok, that's worth something extra. but not $800 or more extra. and it can't even emulate Android for apps like Windows touch ultrabooks can.

 

aside from prosperous Google fan techies who collect multiple gadgets, i have no idea who is going to buy this. maye it's just a show piece with a very small production run ... to try to keep the chromebook idea alive.

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I bet you have not tried many of the current touch screen laptops. The touchscreens are laughable. IMO touchscreen is a feeble attempt by PC makers to make up for their pathetic trackpads, by using an equally pathetic touchscreen. 

Good thing I'm talking about Apple's touchscreen laptops, which won't have those problems.
post #70 of 226

Holy crap! What a pathetic rip off commercial!

 

We all know that everybody wants to be Apple, but apparently people have no shame or self respect anymore.

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Aren't all laptops going to have touchscreens in the near future?  Apple is making OS X more touch-ready with every update (launchpad, full-screen apps, gestures on the trackpad, etc.).  I can't wait to buy the first MacBook Touch or whatever they call it.

You haven't been paying attention, if you think Apple plans to add a touch screen to MacBooks. They'd add a snap on keyboard to iPads before that happens.

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post #72 of 226
Is Google going to do the customer service themselves? They don't have much of a track record in that area. Or maybe nothing ever goes wrong with these.
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You haven't been paying attention, if you think Apple plans to add a touch screen to MacBooks. They'd add a snap on keyboard to iPads before that happens.

Wanna make a bet? I'd love to take your money in less than 3 years.
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Actually, this looks like all old style boring MS based laptops of the past.  Black, boxy and really an ugly POS.   For once I'd like to see one of these big players that pushes forward a design that is new without following Apple.   Now that would be something.  I mean, even the Google promotion video has to copy the look and feel of an Apple promotion video.   This is really getting stupid.  I know there have to be smart engineers and designers working in these places that probably look at this crap their company produces and just cringe at not doing something new and different.

 

Wake me when this is all over...

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Apple is famous for their "Think Different" campaign.

 

Everybody else is adopting a new slogan: "Think like Apple, or at least try to copy them as much as you can"

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Originally Posted by quinney View Post
Or maybe nothing ever goes wrong with these.

 

Well, they can't do much in the first place, so maybe they're counting on "support of scale".

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iCloud is an OPTIONAL online storage system - which just so happens to do more than simply store.

 

Actually I think Google Drive probably has even more features than iCloud. I have not tried it nor have I used iCloud storage. I don't use iCloud simply because I don't want to be restricted to only iWork, iTunes and iPhoto documents. When I had iDisk I used it all the time for my professional documents like CS and AutoCad. Every other cloud service except Apple lets you store whatever you want so long as it is not illegal. I don't want to have some of my files in one cloud and other files in another cloud so I do not intend to ever store files at iCloud. I have used 0 bytes of my free 20 MB.

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post #78 of 226
OK, USB 2.0 in a $1300 laptop. 32GB of SSD.

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Nexus 4, 7, 10 and now ChromeBook. Will these four products be enough to fill a Google store?

Plus maybe a dozen accessories.

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The beauty is, it's there, invisibly, and no one's forcing you to use it. So who gives a damn?

They will sell zero of these.

If the UI is hamstrung like Windows 8, it will either force people to use the touch screen or make you suffer with a poor fall-back to kb+mouse/trackpad.


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Anyone else think this looks like a pathetic MacBook knock off?  I mean a really bad one, like child's toy knock off quality.  The brushed metal doesn't even look real, it looks like it's just painted plastic.  It makes me think of how hideous the Tiger interface looks compared to Mountain Lion, there is a reason Apple abandoned that horrible looking brushed metal interface.


When closed, it reminds me more of Sony's ultraportables. Apple doesn't have that goofy cylinder hinge, and Sony does, and they also did boxy for a while.

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Yeah but the problem with installing Windows on it is that you will have less than 15 GBs of storage after it's all said and done...then having to install Pro apps? That takes another 7+ GBs to install (all the Adobe apps.)

Ultrabooks are just not a good way to use Adobe creative apps. Maybe as a last resort.

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I bet you have not tried many of the current touch screen laptops. The touchscreens are laughable. IMO touchscreen is a feeble attempt by PC makers to make up for their pathetic trackpads, by using an equally pathetic touchscreen. 

I had a Dell which I thought was a crappy trackpad, it was mostly hamstrung by dumbass settings. It's like these companies don't bother to use their own products, otherwise they'd fix the defaults.
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Actually I think Google Drive probably has even more features than iCloud. I have not tried it nor have I used iCloud storage. I don't use iCloud simply because I don't want to be restricted to only iWork, iTunes and iPhoto documents. When I had iDisk I used it all the time for my professional documents like CS and AutoCad. Every other cloud service except Apple lets you store whatever you want so long as it is not illegal. I don't want to have some of my files in one cloud and other files in another cloud so I do not intend to ever store files at iCloud. I have used 0 bytes of my free 20 MB.

I do agree they should open up the storage. There's no reason to buy extra space. I'm sure more apps will use it, but that's no excuse to not at least have a synced folder to support all file-based apps right now.

But iCloud is very useful for keeping all your devices in sync, notes, contacts, bookmarks, calendar items. All things that Google does too, but I'm just saying you don't need to completely swear off the service.
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