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Following Apple's recent announcement of minor spec bumps in its Retina MacBook Pro line, Primate Labs has run the new devices through benchmark tests, finding slight jumps in performance for the new models.

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Primate Labs ran the refreshed Retina lineup through its cross-platform Geekbench 2 benchmark utility. The developers then compared the refreshed Retina MacBooks' results against those of their predecessors.

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The 13-inch model, which got a 100MHz bump in processor speed, saw a three to five percent jump in performance on the Geekbench 2 test. Likewise, the 15-inch model, which also got a 100MHz spec bump, saw performance improve between three and five percent. Primate Labs attributes the jump entirely to the new processors.

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The new Retina models are available now and were announced along with a price reduction in the line. The 13-inch model now starts at $1,499 for a model with a 128GB SSD, while the model with a 2.6GHz processor and 256GB SS sells for $1,699.
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I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original CPU, but the speed bump is welcome.

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Quick! Sue Apple for planned obsolescence!!! How dare they perpetrate such fraud on the consumer!
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Will Brazil be including these rMBPs in their "planned obsolescence" case?
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Funny how my 15" 2.7ghz slightly outperforms the new 2.7ghz. Is that a glitch or slightly cheaper lower specced 2.7ghz.
post #6 of 34
They really dropped the prices on these - I bought the top end 2.7 with bells and whistles ...768gb ssd and its over £300 cheaper now. That's great for new consumers but buying early is somewhat painful seeing this.
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Ok, they will be included in the Brazil lawsuit.
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Haswell isn't coming until Q3, probably 5 to 6 months from now, if not Q4. 15 months or so between refreshes for the rMBP 15" is long time. Nice that they did a bump.

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What is the point of a bump when the performance improvement is less than 5%? This seems completely irrelevant, I don't understand why people are saying this is a good thing. It's a completely inconsequential thing, actually.
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Funny how my 15" 2.7ghz slightly outperforms the new 2.7ghz. Is that a glitch or slightly cheaper lower specced 2.7ghz.

If you look at the processors on Intel's site they are different class in several ways.

2012 RMBP — i7-3820QM (8M cache, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 2.70 GHz, 22nm) — $568
2013 RMBP — i7-3740QM (6M cache, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 2.70 GHz, 22nm) — $378

Comparison between two processors: http://ark.intel.com/compare/70847,64889

That accounts for a big part of the price drop yet the performance is still on par between those two chips. The older chip has more cache but the newer one has a slightly faster graphics output. All in all it's less than 0.35% faster according to those numbers and if you ran them again it's so close it could go the other way. The take away is that Apple was able to reduce the price dramatically without a loss of performance.

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Funny how my 15" 2.7ghz slightly outperforms the new 2.7ghz. Is that a glitch or slightly cheaper lower specced 2.7ghz.
It's the latter. Intel still sells the 2.7GHz that you have, but now also sells a cheaper one with a lower turbo boost as a replacement for the 2.6GHz.
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What is the point of a bump when the performance improvement is less than 5%? This seems completely irrelevant, I don't understand why people are saying this is a good thing. It's a completely inconsequential thing, actually.

So having a major price drop and it's slightly faster on top of it isn't a good thing?

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"MaBook Pro" in the headline. "Ha ha." As Nelson would say.

 

Sorry. Just love spotting errors. And pointing them out.

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Haswell isn't coming until Q3, probably 5 to 6 months from now, if not Q4. 15 months or so between refreshes for the rMBP 15" is long time. Nice that they did a bump.
What are you talking about? Industry consensus is June for Haswell rollout, which is right in line with the usual June-July MacBook refresh window.
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"MaBook Pro" in the headline. "Ha ha." As Nelson would say.


Sorry. Just love spotting errors. And pointing them out.

AppleInsider loves making errors.

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Will Brazil be including these rMBPs in their "planned obsolescence" case?

They're not going to get anything for at least one year.

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Originally Posted by THT View Post
Haswell isn't coming until Q3, probably 5 to 6 months from now, if not Q4. 15 months or so between refreshes for the rMBP 15" is long time. Nice that they did a bump.

 

The first laptop chips are released in May. Those aren't MacBook family chips, but they'll be out. I figure June/July for the rest. Just in time for one of the best WWDCs in recent memory (MacBook family, Mac Pro, iMac, Mac Mini, and hopefully the AirPort family).

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I've always been a fan of updated MaBooks. MaBooks are the best laptops available, and perfect complements to desktop Ma computers. Long live Ma!
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Are the rMBP's still choppy?  I played with the original gen ones in the store, and while the display is awesome, it lagged on things like Expose and scrolling in Safari. I think I'm going to pick one up with Haswell, but just curious if choppiness is still happening.

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"MaBook Pro" in the headline. "Ha ha." As Nelson would say.


Sorry. Just love spotting errors. And pointing them out.

Doesn't seem like they give a crap enough to actually change it. Imagine... Imagine a world... where proof reading still gets done...
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Originally Posted by dysamoria View Post
Doesn't seem like they give a crap enough to actually change it.

 

I fixed it on the forum. Can't fix any main page errors, but anything wrong you see in the article I'll always be glad to edit on the forum page.

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Are the rMBP's still choppy?  I played with the original gen ones in the store, and while the display is awesome, it lagged on things like Expose and scrolling in Safari. I think I'm going to pick one up with Haswell, but just curious if choppiness is still happening.

Is it choppy because the Core i7 isn't up to the task?

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I fixed it on the forum. Can't fix any main page errors, but anything wrong you see in the article I'll always be glad to edit on the forum page.

I actually prefer MaBook.

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What is the point of a bump when the performance improvement is less than 5%? This seems completely irrelevant, I don't understand why people are saying this is a good thing. It's a completely inconsequential thing, actually.

Why don't you sue Apple then, whiner.
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What is the point of a bump when the performance improvement is less than 5%? This seems completely irrelevant, I don't understand why people are saying this is a good thing. It's a completely inconsequential thing, actually.

 

Intel refreshed its processors, so Apple decided to use new ones. The real story was the price drops on the 13" models and the higher capacity 15" models. The slightly faster processors is just an added bonus.

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Is it choppy because the Core i7 isn't up to the task?

 

No, it's the software not being optimized for the Retina Display. The Webkit betas show much less lag, so we should see improvements with the version of Safari that ships with 10.8.3.

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Originally Posted by Drealoth View Post

Are the rMBP's still choppy?  I played with the original gen ones in the store, and while the display is awesome, it lagged on things like Expose and scrolling in Safari. I think I'm going to pick one up with Haswell, but just curious if choppiness is still happening.

My rmbp has never been choppy - mine is the 2.7ghz, 16gb, 768gb version. I had read about this though, maybe it was the bottom end 2.3ghz affected, I'm not sure.
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If you look at the processors on Intel's site they are different class in several ways.

2012 RMBP — i7-3820QM (8M cache, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 2.70 GHz, 22nm) — $568
2013 RMBP — i7-3740QM (6M cache, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 2.70 GHz, 22nm) — $378

Comparison between two processors: http://ark.intel.com/compare/70847,64889

That accounts for a big part of the price drop yet the performance is still on par between those two chips. The older chip has more cache but the newer one has a slightly faster graphics output. All in all it's less than 0.35% faster according to those numbers and if you ran them again it's so close it could go the other way. The take away is that Apple was able to reduce the price dramatically without a loss of performance.

Thanks - most informative 1smile.gif
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My rmbp has never been choppy - mine is the 2.7ghz, 16gb, 768gb version. I had read about this though, maybe it was the bottom end 2.3ghz affected, I'm not sure.

 

Maybe, I don't remember which one I used. And I mean, it wasn't unusable or anything like that, but noticeably less fluid than my MacBook Air. I found the same thing with the iPad 3 (the old new iPad) versus the iPad 2.

 

Retina displays are amazing though. It's not just that they look great, but after looking at one, every other display looks terrible.

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Now can it do basic UI animations without lag? Single core performance seemed to be the bottleneck there.
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It's about time the prices come down a bit. Materials are getting cheaper, especially flash memory. I wish Apple would cut the prices for the higher end iPads too, because it's not even in the same universe of sanity when you look at the actual cost of the flash they use.
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It's about time the prices come down a bit. Materials are getting cheaper, especially flash memory. I wish Apple would cut the prices for the higher end iPads too, because it's not even in the same universe of sanity when you look at the actual cost of the flash they use.

Well they adjust pricing when they refresh the line. This is technically a refresh similar to the early to late 2011. I thought they were going to skip these cpus. The parts officially launched at the end of September. That we're seeing some kind of refresh probably means that haswell is more than 6 months out.

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Are the rMBP's still choppy?  I played with the original gen ones in the store, and while the display is awesome, it lagged on things like Expose and scrolling in Safari. I think I'm going to pick one up with Haswell, but just curious if choppiness is still happening.


I think it's more of a software/driver issue than one of hardware. That being said, I typically wait avoid first generation products. This is still sort of a first generation.

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I think it's more of a software/driver issue than one of hardware. That being said, I typically wait avoid first generation products. This is still sort of a first generation.

Here is what KPOM mentioned previously: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6495/latest-webkit-build-doubles-scrolling-performance-on-macbook-pro-with-retina-display

Faster HW is always welcome but so far the only known culprit is SW. It's interesting that scrolling issues are only happening on some sites. I wonder what is specific to FB but not AnandTech that is causing the anomaly.

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Why don't you sue Apple then, whiner.

Everyone else does why not? I think I am going to buy one then sue Apple because they are not spending enough cash and I cannot up the memory in 5 years so the laptop becomes obsolete. Even though I knew this before I bought it.
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