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Apple's shipping times for both 21.5" & 27" iMac improve to 1-3 days

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Estimated shipping times for both of Apple's new iMac models dramatically improved on Saturday, going from weeks to just one to three business days.

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The changes apply to both the 21.5-inch model and the 27-inch variety, in all of the default available processor speeds. Just this week, the 21.5-inch model was estimated to ship in two to three weeks, while the 27-inch model was advertised to take up to a month to ship.

The first signs that iMac availability was improving came in January, when Apple saw its overall domestic Mac sales surge up 31 percent year over year. The new iMacs debuted in December in extremely limited supply, which contributed to a 17 percent drop in sales in the holiday quarter.

The new iMacs were plagued with production issues when new, thinner desktops went on sale. It's been reported that those issues came from a unique screen lamination process utilized in the design.

With shipping times for the iMacs having dramatically improved, any improvements to production could pave the way for a redesigned Thunderbolt Display that would feature the same slim profile as the new iMacs. Apple's current model of the 27-inch Thunderbolt Display has been in limited supply at resellers in recent months, and a drawdown in inventory frequently signals Apple is planning to introduce new hardware to the market.

As for the Mac, analysts generally expect that Apple will see sales rebound this quarter thanks to improved availability of the new iMac models. The company also recently improved speeds and cut prices on its Retina MacBook Pro models, which is expected to help boost sales.

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It's still 4-6 weeks here in the uk. Maybe they prioritised the homeland.
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1) I wonder if they go a new assembly line going, perfected a process that was holding them up, or got a new supplier for components, got better machinery for making these new Macs (like whatever does the friction-stir welding or bonds the display to the glass), or they simply caught up with demand.

2) I'm surprised that they didn't do the typical stepping down by one week for each model until they reached 1-3 days.

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It's still 4-6 weeks here in the uk. Maybe they prioritised the homeland.

They definitely do but it might not be Nationalism so much as the US is clearly their single largest network for any given product at this point. On top of that it might be the nation they have the least per unit overhead due to regulations and economies of scale differences as packaged Macs for other countries are slightly different.

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It appears to be just US and Canada. Presumably Apple has managed to build up stock levels in their North American warehouses so they have enough standard configuration models to meet expected demand. If anything is customised, the delivery estimate drops back to 2-3 weeks, therefore manufacturing in China still has a backlog.

 

NZ and Australia are still 2-3 or 3-4 weeks. Not sure why the UK is worse.

 

Hopefully countries outside North America will have better availability of standard configuration models soon, then we should start to see the lead time decrease on custom configurations.

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Any changes to the configuration will result in a 2-3 week deliver still.  Even changing it from a magic mouse to trackpad triggered it.  They are just stockpiling low-end configuration.

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Let's hope availability improves quickly!

I am waiting for Samsung now to sell a carbon clone of the IMac.
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Mine ordered last week still shows 2-3 weeks. Am I to believe that if I cancel my order and re-order ill improve the arrival time?
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Mine ordered last week still shows 2-3 weeks. Am I to believe that if I cancel my order and re-order ill improve the arrival time?

Did you order anything other than the base model with no changes?

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Made in the USA iMacs? That would explain shorter North American delivery times.

 

Or was it just Mac Pro's that were going to get made in the USA?

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Did you order anything other than the base model with no changes?

Yep. Read sflocal's post too late. Up'd CPU, change graphics, up'd to 32GB RAM and of course went to the flash storage. It's worth the wait. The article is lacking.
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Yep. Read sflocal's post too late. Up'd CPU, change graphics, up'd to 32GB RAM and of course went to the flash storage. It's worth the wait. The article is lacking.

I'm loving mine. I can't believe I was using a 13" display for so long and liking it. At first it was weird to turn my head to see another part of the display but now it's natural. In fact, I'm considering getting a 2nd 27" display so I can put Terminal on that screen so I can have even more room for my main apps.

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I'm loving mine. I can't believe I was using a 13" display for so long and liking it. At first it was weird to turn my head to see another part of the display but now it's natural. In fact, I'm considering getting a 2nd 27" display so I can put Terminal on that screen so I can have even more room for my main apps.

Gonna wait for the display refresh that has to be eminent. I do want better multidisplay support in the OS.
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I was able to get the 2GB VRAM high-end model from a store a couple of weeks ago. One store in the area (Portland, OR) was consistently out of stock, but they called around and sent me to a relatively nearby store that had enough. Online RAM's cheaper anyway, so I went that route. HDD configs are still custom, but you should try the stores in person if you can.

 

For the record, the screen is gorgeous. That hype about 60% less glare is true. I'm tempted to add a second display when they update the Thunderbolts, because I'm male you can never have too much screen real estate.

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Gonna wait for the display refresh that has to be eminent. I do want better multidisplay support in the OS.

Yeah, I can't fathom why if you make one display fullscreen it will blank any other display. Seems counter-intuitive to me.

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NZ and Australia are still 2-3 or 3-4 weeks. Not sure why the UK is worse.

 

I have no idea why1wink.gif

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It's still 4-6 weeks here in the uk. Maybe they prioritised the homeland.
All shipped from China so no reason other than Apple prioritising America. It's the Apple way and always has been, Americans get the product first & always pay less than anyone else.
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I believe Leo Laporte of TWiT fame recently made the observation that reduced shipping times for the iMac will be interpreted by our friends, the Wall Street anal-ists, as proof of dropping demand for Apple products.

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I wasn't meaning anything to do with Nationalism - simply that inorder to show results they prioritised the US - and that makes sense enabling them to report a surge in sales and reduced lead time - great pr against what has been a sliding share position - but not the full picture. Clearly apple has some way to go to get its inventory to meet global demand. I'm more concerned about possible impacts on a new Thunderbolt Display launch window.
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I'm loving mine. I can't believe I was using a 13" display for so long and liking it. At first it was weird to turn my head to see another part of the display but now it's natural. In fact, I'm considering getting a 2nd 27" display so I can put Terminal on that screen so I can have even more room for my main apps.

You might not like the fact that the height differs if you put a 27" TB display next to a 27" iMac.

Wrong pic, but you get the picture:
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I do want better multidisplay support in the OS.

I agree, they totally screwed up fullscreen:

  • Escape doesn't always get you out; some apps it works, some don't. Apps from Apple that is.
  • Aperture used to simply make the application grow to it maximum size, now it pushes other apps to the side when going into fullscreen, a less elegant way. You cannot use the mouse to get out of fullscreen. (Pressing 'Aperture's' 'F' key works as expected as well.)
  • Notifications still intrude while in fullscreen (they really should handle it better when someone already has their iPad & iPhone on their desk while working on OSX, but that's a different subject)
  • Cmd-Tab doesn't work while in fullscreen
  • You cannot cycle through all opened files while in fullscreen, although it does work in iTunes.
  • In Preview.app you can select another open file with your mouse while in fullscreen, but it doesn't do anything; it's not being displayed. And then of course you cannot use escape to get out.
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[" url="/t/156265/apples-shipping-times-for-both-21-5-27-imac-improve-to-1-3-days#post_2286809"]Made in the USA iMacs? That would explain shorter North American delivery times.

Or was it just Mac Pro's that were going to get made in the USA?

I know they were producing at least SOME iMacs in the US. There were a few articles floating around showing the "made in the USA" on iMacs some time back.
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You might not like the fact that the height differs if you put a 27" TB display next to a 27" iMac.

Wrong pic, but you get the picture:

I was actually thinking of going with Monoprice's new 27" IPS monitor (or another inexpensive model if the Monoprice model doesn't have VESA support).

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I was actually thinking of going with Monoprice's new 27" IPS monitor (or another inexpensive model if the Monoprice model doesn't have VESA support).

Me and my Apple minded mind, thinking everyone here only buys from Apple.

Ah, ok, so a VESA mount then. Well, that could level it to the same height, if desired. Most people I know set it up like in that picture.

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Me and my Apple minded mind, thinking everyone here only buys from Apple.

Ah, ok, so a VESA mount then. Well, that could level it to the same height, if desired. Most people I know set it up like in that picture.

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1) I want something I can swing in and out for the times I need the extra display, as well as not taking up any extra space on the desk. My iMac will remain centered.

2) I buy from Apple when the benefit is there as a customer. When it comes to CE it usually is but since I'm not a gamer who needs slightly faster refreshing on the display or a graphical artist who needs the best representation of colours I just don't care. There is a desire for a nice looking frame but they are small enough now that none are that bad, but even they were unless you have OCD you'll likely not notice it at all once you start using the display as your mental focus is on the content, not the frame.

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Mine ordered last week still shows 2-3 weeks. Am I to believe that if I cancel my order and re-order ill improve the arrival time?


Rest easy. Pending orders from Apple can change from 2-3 weeks to shipped overnight. Saw it happen a few times.

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I was actually thinking of going with Monoprice's new 27" IPS monitor (or another inexpensive model if the Monoprice model doesn't have VESA support).

It looks like those are the same Apple panel rejects used in the Korean brand displays:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1523737
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2

but they give a warranty with it. It says it has a VESA mount. Even if it broke shortly after a year, that could happen to Apple's display too.
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It looks like those are the same Apple panel rejects used in the Korean brand displays:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1523737
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2

but they give a warranty with it. It says it has a VESA mount. Even if it broke shortly after a year, that could happen to Apple's display too.

Yeah, I'm not worried about it breaking, calibration or dead pixels. It's really just to go to host CLI windows and potentially a physical and logical network diagram for quick reference so size is most important.

I wonder if even a smallish HDTV with a VESA mount might be perfectly fine and be less expensive.


PS: Thanks for looking up the Monoprice display. I had forgotten if i had a VESA mount or not.



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You might not like the fact that the height differs if you put a 27" TB display next to a 27" iMac.

Wrong pic, but you get the picture:

 

Somebody will sell a "ThunderStand" that will fix that. Or you could put a phone book under it.

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It already exists from twelvesouth!

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Somebody will sell a "ThunderStand" that will fix that. Or you could put a phone book under it.

 

But this has been the situation since the first aluminum Cinema Displays and footed iMac design.

 

I've always wondered why Apple didn't just kick the stand of the Cinema Display up higher to match an iMac's height. The way it stands (*rimshot*) now, I sit sort of high on my Cinema Display (I can see the reflection of my nose in the top bezel), and I think my desk is an above average height… 

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Update on the overseas situation: NZ and Australia are now showing 1-3 days for both 21.5" and 27" models. Customisations only bump it up to 5-7 days for internal changes or swapping the mouse for a trackpad, no increase for separately boxed components (e.g. Superdrive).

 

UK is not quite as good but better than it was: 5-7 days for 21.5" and 1-2 weeks for 27" standard configurations, roughly doubled if customised with a component change.

 

These have improved at some point on Monday (local time).

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I'm loving mine. I can't believe I was using a 13" display for so long and liking it. At first it was weird to turn my head to see another part of the display but now it's natural. In fact, I'm considering getting a 2nd 27" display so I can put Terminal on that screen so I can have even more room for my main apps.

Can you let me know how the new iMac is at multi-tasking please? I would love to know how they cope with a real hammering compared to MacPros of the recent past that I am familiar with. MacBook Pros are pathetic at doing more than one thing. For example the Finder can totally take over ... copy 20 GB from one drive to another and try to do anything else on a MBP! Forget it! On a MP you could do that and render, capture video and so on with virtually no performance hit.
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You might not like the fact that the height differs if you put a 27" TB display next to a 27" iMac.

Wrong pic, but you get the picture:

OMG ... that is a really bad design slip from a certain somebody isn't it? I loved my two 30" ACD side by side when i had them. It was a wall of pure magic, had there been such a disjointed look it would have ruined the aesthetics.
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Can you let me know how the new iMac is at multi-tasking please? I would love to know how they cope with a real hammering compared to MacPros of the recent past that I am familiar with. MacBook Pros are pathetic at doing more than one thing. For example the Finder can totally take over ... copy 20 GB from one drive to another and try to do anything else on a MBP! Forget it! On a MP you could do that and render, capture video and so on with virtually no performance hit.

Since I'm coming from a 2010 13" MBP with an iGPU it's worlds better in every way except portability so I can't possibly answer you since you're on a Mac Pro. If you want some benchmarks or other tests run I'ld be more than happy to work some in for you.

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Can you let me know how the new iMac is at multi-tasking please? I would love to know how they cope with a real hammering compared to MacPros of the recent past that I am familiar with. MacBook Pros are pathetic at doing more than one thing. For example the Finder can totally take over ... copy 20 GB from one drive to another and try to do anything else on a MBP! Forget it! On a MP you could do that and render, capture video and so on with virtually no performance hit.

 

 

I'll run a test for you right now.

 

 

Start render of animation that takes ten minutes.  (H.264 at Maximum)

Copy 40GB folder from Thunderbolt drive to desktop.

Send 2.5 GB folder to another Mac over wired LAN while sharing the screen.

While those are flying, come back here and type a message.  Connected to Internet over WiFi.


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OK.  The tasks are all running.  I used Spaces to switch between various screens; just a tad jumpy.

TimeMachine started a backup.

The 2.5GB transfer is done.  The other two are processing fine.

I can use Safari fine.  Even a small web live cast news program came in fine.

 

Forgot to check Activity Monitor... sorry.

 

Never heard fans.  This baby is pretty quiet.

 

Oh, and far less heat than my old 2011 model.

 

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2012 iMac 27"

3.4 GHz i7

16GB RAM

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680MX

 

 

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Not bad for a "consumer" machine.


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Copy 40GB folder from Thunderbolt drive to desktop.

I need a Thunderbolt drive. My 1TB USB2.0 drive for Time Machine was fine for my MBP but with 3.1TB iMac I obviously need something better. I'm using 1TB right now so I had to not save 100GB in VMs and ISOs, but that's not a big deal.

I am holding out for the next AirPort routers. I might get a Time Capsule. I'll see what my options are. I'm foolishly waiting for Apple to move the iTunes hub from being in a Mac/PC to being a proper networked iOS-based Home Server that can store all content for all users, grab updates for registered iDevices (once), and other nifty features that Home Servers have.

MS actually has a pretty decent solution and many vendors that use their Home Server have included options for allowing your Mac to use it for Time Machine backups.

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Just this week I picked up a USB3 drive as I am clearing up my filing system and needed 2TB of shelving.  It will become my new TimeMachine disk, replacing a FW800.  Will get another one to store older video work on.

 

Got a Western Digital Essential USB3 2TB.  It is whisper quiet.

 

USB3 is actually slightly faster than Thunderbolt in my work this week.  It is a heck of a lot cheaper.

 

With a big caveat: USB can bottleneck if you run two drives off the same port at the same time.  Thunderbolt has no problem.

 

My biggest problem now is USB3 hubs and cables.  There just aren't too many to choose from (well, that are available here in Japan) and only one fits my needs (hub has power and can be located 2meters from the Mac).

 

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Just this week I picked up a USB3 drive as I am clearing up my filing system and needed 2TB of shelving.  It will become my new TimeMachine disk, replacing a FW800.  Will get another one to store older video work on.

Got a Western Digital Essential USB3 2TB.  It is whisper quiet.

USB3 is actually slightly faster than Thunderbolt in my work this week.  It is a heck of a lot cheaper.

With a big caveat: USB can bottleneck if you run two drives off the same port at the same time.  Thunderbolt has no problem.

My biggest problem now is USB3 hubs and cables.  There just aren't too many to choose from and only one fits my needs (hub has power and can be located 2meters from the Mac).

USB3.0 is certainly on the table but my irrational expectation for the aforementioned Home Server is keeping me at bay.

PS: Didn't Jobs say that the iMac was no longer the digital hub? WIth so many iDevices on the market and the iPad being the primary personal computer for so many it would seem like they would need a discrete option for your local media.

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I posted this in another thread, too:

 

 

 

 

 

Ugh.  My earlier post about USB being faster than TB was wrong.  Very wrong.  Sorry.  (Though the original test was done with a different USB3 disk than I worked with today; will test that disk again early next week.)

 

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Ran a careful test today and got very different figures.  Was careful with timing on Finder drag and drop (starting on the 0sec).  Also used a backup app (Intego) that actually shows average transfer speed and time taken to complete the task.

 

 

 

FILE: Folder of Adobe Encore projects (video) = 20.94GB

 

DISK A (WD Thunderbolt Duo 6TB)

Striped RAID 

Intego: 2min 35sec (avg: 138MB/s)

Finder: 1min 48sec

 

DISK B (WD TB Duo 6TB)

mirrored RAID

Intego: 3min 14sec (avg: 108MB/sec)

Finder: 3min 1sec

 

DISK C (WD My Book Essential USB3)

single disk

Intego: 4min 51sec (avg: 72MB/sec)

Finder: 4min 38sec

 

Interesting to note that the Finder was much faster on the copy to striped RAID.

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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