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Fresh rumors out of the Far East say that Apple manufacturing partner Foxconn has already started production of the so-called iPhone 5S, with the next-generation handset reportedly being built on the same lines as the current iPhone 5.

Citing a source familiar with the matter, Japanese Apple blog MacOtakara reported that Foxconn is starting to ramp up production of Apple's iPhone 5 successor. The site noted that because the design of the "iPhone 5S" is substantially the same to the company's existing handset, little to no tooling is needed to manufacture the two models on the same production lines.

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In a note to investors in January, Jefferies analyst Peter Misek estimated that production of the next-generation iPhone would begin in March ahead of a launch expected in either June or July. He also predicted that Apple will be launching a second smartphone alongside the 5S, possibly a much-rumored low-cost version targeted at developing markets.

MacOtakara also claimed that Japan's number one cellular provider NTT DoCoMo, which is not yet an Apple partner carrier, is apparently reducing orders for Android-based smartphones for the upcoming fall 2013 season. The supposed move has prompted rival carriers to speculate that DoCoMo may soon start sales of the iPhone.

Rumors surrounding the release of Apple's next-gen smartphone have been heating up, with two reports on Monday claiming the iPhone 5S will likely see a summer rollout. The exact dates haven't been pinned down, with predictions ranging from a June announcement to a release in August.

Just as previous "S version" iPhones, the forthcoming model is not expected to see a design change, and will instead benefit from updated internal components. While a faster A-series SoC is almost a given, some rumors point to an upgraded camera or camera lens assembly and the possible implementation of a Smart Flash that uses white and yellow LEDs to improve image color rendition.
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Since I skipped the 5 (still extremely satisfied with my 4S) I think this will be my next phone. 

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I'm still on my 4. Haven't seen a hugely compelling reason to upgrade, particularly as the 3GS blew my 3G away, and the 4S blew my 4 away. I think I'll continue holding off a few more months for the 5S...

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I'm still on my 4. Haven't seen a hugely compelling reason to upgrade, particularly as the 3GS blew my 3G away, and the 4S blew my 4 away. I think I'll continue holding off a few more months for the 5S...

I'm also still on the 4 (and wife on my old 3g). I'm tired of paying the same monthly fee as if I was paying a phone subsidy though, it's ridiculous. I need to figure out what other carriers besides ATT work in my area or start getting new phones every two years.

 

Doesn't this seem early for production to be starting? Assuming it's true, I would think the release is going to be sooner (June?) rather than later (Aug/Sep).

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I wonder if they will release the 5s in different colors

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I started having buyers remorse after I bought the 5 and considered returning it and going back to my 4S but it's just so damn fast, I couldn't do it.

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Since I skipped the 5 (still extremely satisfied with my 4S) I think this will be my next phone. 

I'm with ya, Slurp!

 

It was really hard for me to skip the 5...bought my daughter one instead!  :)

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I wonder if they will release the 5s in different colors

I hope so.  Colors are cool compared to just plain black & white.

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I'm on the 4S. will probably wait for the 6 unless Apple goes bankrupt.
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I'm with ya, Slurp!

 

It was really hard for me to skip the 5...bought my daughter one instead!  :)

 

As much as I like Apple products, I try to make sure all my buying decisions are rational, and quantify what tangible benefits I'm getting for my money. I always phone phones outright, since I'm not on a contract.  I couldn't justify a 5, seeing as how I had no major complaints about the 4S, and the 5 did not offer any hardware/software benefits that would enhance my day to day usage in any significant way, even though it was an improved product in every single way. 

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Since I skipped the 5 (still extremely satisfied with my 4S) I think this will be my next phone. 

If Apple keeps this up, 4, 4S, 5, 5S whereby the "S" version is the same only with better internals, I think starting off with the "S" version is the way to go.  Sure when the 6, 7, 8, etc version comes out it will have the latest cool redesign or some new functionality, but a year later you get the souped up premium version. 1biggrin.gif

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As much as I like the latest and greatest apple gear, Rot'n... I have a tendacy to agree with u. 1smile.gif
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I had the 4, and got the 5 day 1. My wife finally decided to go iPhone (from feature phone) at the same time they announced the 5. Picked up the 4S for $99. She loves it but when she holds my 5 she still, six months later, says, "damn this is light" and partially wishes she had forked over the extra $100
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I'm still on my 4. Haven't seen a hugely compelling reason to upgrade, particularly as the 3GS blew my 3G away, and the 4S blew my 4 away. I think I'll continue holding off a few more months for the 5S...

I appreciate the dilemma; the 4/4S is a beautiful phone, and there are things I do like about the design more than my 5. However, Siri, thinner, better camera, and out of contract makes upgrading a pretty logical choice.

For me, it is funny that I can have trouble finding my 5 in my pockets. It isn't as heavy and noticeable as the 4, so it really seems to disappear. My biggest complaint is simply needing to buy 4-5 extra lightning cables. I am not ready to upgrade my third generation iPad yet, so I am stuck with two different cords. I figure it is $100 I have to spend now that should last me at least another 5-6 years minimum.
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I wonder if they will release the 5s in different colors

 

 

I really hope so. I think it could spark some excitement. It would be an obvious advantage over Samsung in desirability. 

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I really hope so. I think it could spark some excitement. It would be an obvious advantage over Samsung in desirability. 

 

 

Agreed!

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I'm also still on the 4 (and wife on my old 3g). I'm tired of paying the same monthly fee as if I was paying a phone subsidy though, it's ridiculous. I need to figure out what other carriers besides ATT work in my area or start getting new phones every two years.

For those that buy their phones outright and not going through ATT, Sprint, or Verizon- I get not upgrading at times. But for those who are going through those providers already- you're only doing yourself a disservice not upgrading. You can sell a 2 year old iPhone for within $20 of a brand new subsudized iPhone. So every two years, get the latest and greatest. The only person wanting you to hold onto your old phone is the service provider. Take advantage of the subsidy, upgrade, then sell your old phone and its basically a wash.

You have my blessing unfettered- I agree with you. 1smile.gif

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Fresh rumors out of the Far East say that Apple manufacturing partner Foxconn has already started production of the so-called iPhone 5S, with the next-generation handset reportedly being built on the same lines as the current iPhone 5.

If it's already in production, that would mean an introduction by May. So we now have one rumor saying they're in production (which would mean May shipment). Another one says June/July. Another says this fall.

See why it's not worth paying any attention to these rumors?
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I loved my 4S.  It was just a beautiful phone, and I had always skipped a generation -- 1st gen., 3GS, 4S -- but I couldn't resist the 5.  Plus, considering that Apple gave me $250 for my 4S, I barely had to shell out cash to get the 5.

 

That being said, I seriously doubt I will upgrade this time.  Unless there are major changes, which seems unlikely, I'll stick with my 5 until the 6 comes out.

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If it's already in production, that would mean an introduction by May. So we now have one rumor saying they're in production (which would mean May shipment). Another one says June/July. Another says this fall.

See why it's not worth paying any attention to these rumors?

Rene Ritchie, over at iMore.com, says iPad (5th gen) for April time frame and iPhone 5S for August time frame.  Right now I'll go with his rumor since he's got an excellent track record.

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I am wondering if this is the China Mobile version of the iPhone 5 (a la the Verizon CDMA iPhone 4) rather than a true iPhone 5s in production.
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I am wondering if this is the China Mobile version of the iPhone 5 (a la the Verizon CDMA iPhone 4) rather than a true iPhone 5s in production.

 

Perhaps.

 

Another thing to remember is how much trouble they had filling orders for the iPhone 5, because of the extra difficulty in manufacturing without visual defects, which has slowed output.

 

It's possible that they felt they had to start building inventory earlier than usual.

 

Assuming the rumor is true, that is.

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Why? What has changed since the 5 was released that a minor update is required this soon?

Sorry, but this rumor is stupid. People are already going to be upset enough when the iPad 5 is announced in the coming weeks.

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I loved my 4S.  It was just a beautiful phone, and I had always skipped a generation -- 1st gen., 3GS, 4S -- but I couldn't resist the 5.  Plus, considering that Apple gave me $250 for my 4S, I barely had to shell out cash to get the 5.

 

That being said, I seriously doubt I will upgrade this time.  Unless there are major changes, which seems unlikely, I'll stick with my 5 until the 6 comes out.

 

I upgraded simply because I live in a market with LTE. If not for that, I'd still be carrying around my 4S because that extra inch of screen real estate makes not a difference in the world.

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The only problem I have with my iPhone 4 is 16GB is just a bit tight for all the Apps and files I have on it.
Next time I'll seriously consider getting 32GB of memory.
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Why? What has changed since the 5 was released that a minor update is required this soon?

Sorry, but this rumor is stupid. People are already going to be upset enough when the iPad 5 is announced in the coming weeks.

 

Then those people are morons. There's no reason to be upset. Apple HAD to update the iPad along with the iPad mini launch, to justify the price difference between the two (as well as to switch to the new connector, etc) It was completely logical. A redesigned iPad should still be expected for April.  The iPad 3 is still great, and the iPad 4 will still be great even after the new one is released. 

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I'd settle for a very simple update: I say "Turn on Bluetooth" and Siri turns on Bluetooth. I realize such a feature would represent a huge technological leap for Apple, but we can always hope, yes?
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I'm also still on the 4 (and wife on my old 3g). I'm tired of paying the same monthly fee as if I was paying a phone subsidy though, it's ridiculous. I need to figure out what other carriers besides ATT work in my area or start getting new phones every two years.

 

Doesn't this seem early for production to be starting? Assuming it's true, I would think the release is going to be sooner (June?) rather than later (Aug/Sep).

 

I have an Apple unlocked phone on T-Mobile. The upfront cost is higher if you want a new iPhone. However, if you take the cost of a $649 iPhone 5 and substract the $199 upfront cost for the subsidy and divide the remaining amount by the length of the 24 month subsidy you come up with a little less than $19 a month. Add that to the $59 dollars a month you will be paying for an unlimited everything play on T-Mobile, and the monthly cost is about $76 a month (excluding taxes). On AT&T the same plan costs over $130 a month and isn't unlimited and doesn't include tethering. You can make the plan cheaper if you want to cut things out. For instance, on T-Mobile you don't even need to have a data plan with an iPhone (e.g. if you can get by with wi-fi), which isn't the case on AT&T. 

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I'd settle for a very simple update: I say "Turn on Bluetooth" and Siri turns on Bluetooth. I realize such a feature would represent a huge technological leap for Apple, but we can always hope, yes?

Great idea. 

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Why? What has changed since the 5 was released that a minor update is required this soon?

 

A new Samsung Galaxy release. 

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I had the 4, and got the 5 day 1. My wife finally decided to go iPhone (from feature phone) at the same time they announced the 5. Picked up the 4S for $99. She loves it but when she holds my 5 she still, six months later, says, "damn this is light" and partially wishes she had forked over the extra $100

 

 

The iPhone 5 is a much better phone than the 4 or 4S, and they both are great phones. The iPhone 5 is significantly lighter, much faster, and outright beautiful. I still am sometimes amazed when I pick it up.

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I'd settle for a very simple update: I say "Turn on Bluetooth" and Siri turns on Bluetooth. I realize such a feature would represent a huge technological leap for Apple, but we can always hope, yes?


Siri doesn't do/say a thing for me.

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I wonder if they will release the 5s in different colors

I would think the cream and black of stylish cars and motorcycles of the forties would be fitting.

 

And so how much Facsimile Sam will be in this next class of iPhones. How soon till Apple is free from that nightmare?

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At this point with all of my iOS devices, as well as my clients all working just fine for their needs... I want to wait before purchasing anything new, to see what Apple has in store for us with iOS 7.

It is with iOS 7 that Apple needs to be working day and night on, and really "wow" us this year. 1wink.gif
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people will start to worry the delay of delivery due to production problems may affect iphone 5s production and AAPL drops.

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Siri doesn't do/say a thing for me.
I prefer to use my iPhone quietly, I don't want people wondering why I'm talking to myself !   1wink.gif

I use Siri all the time - mostly for dictating emails and texts. If you're holding the phone up close to your mouth, you don't need to speak that loudly - and it's obvious that you'er not talking to yourself. I don't, however, do that in a crowded place.
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At this point with all of my iOS devices, as well as my clients all working just fine for their needs... I want to wait before purchasing anything new, to see what Apple has in store for us with iOS 7.

It is with iOS 7 that Apple needs to be working day and night on, and really "wow" us this year. 1wink.gif

 

Yes exactly.  I don't expect the 5S to be more than a small spec bump on the processor and graphics given Apple's history so far.  We NEED a great iOS 7, with much more WOW than 5 or 6 was.  If Apple doesn't do much more this year than small hardware bumps and minor OS updates, that's going to be disappointing.

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A new Samsung Galaxy release. 

I agree, Apple could take some wind out of Sammy's sails. Also, moving iPhone production earlier in the calendar year can free up resources to have ample supply before fall arrives. They then would spread out iPad and iPad mini between earlier and later in the calendar year in six month cycles. later in the year. In addition to spring, the latter two will continue to be major sales leaders during the holiday shopping season, perhaps even more than iPhone.

 

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Obviously, much of this is subject to changes due to supplier performance and component availability.

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I'm still on my 4. Haven't seen a hugely compelling reason to upgrade, particularly as the 3GS blew my 3G away, and the 4S blew my 4 away. I think I'll continue holding off a few more months for the 5S...

I also have a 4s. Great design. Solid. It would be great if they would also update the 4s specs- LTE, processor etc.( I guess they can't fit the newer chips in which is shame). For myself I don't need a larger phone.

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I'd settle for a very simple update: I say "Turn on Bluetooth" and Siri turns on Bluetooth. I realize such a feature would represent a huge technological leap for Apple, but we can always hope, yes?


Back when I had the iPhone4S I jailbroke it and added an application that allowed me to assign particular functions to swipe gestures.  I assigned "toggle bluetooth" to "swipe up from bottom" and it worked perfectly every single time.  I absolutely loved it.  It allowed me to hop in my jeep, swipe up for automatic connection to my phone/speaker system, and then an identical swipe when I got out of the car.  I understand a little why Apple wouldn't allow swipes from the side, as they're a bit more difficult, but there is a bezel at the bottom that makes the "swipe from bottom" an incredibly easy, "no miss" situation.  I also used "swipe up diagonally from bottom right" for wifi toggle.  Worked well every time.  Both of these gestures are so intuitive, so easy, and so reliable, I don't understand why Apple hasn't implemented them. 

 

I really wish Apple would implement a "creative" and "formal" or "pro" mode, allowing you to go into settings to turn on "creative," which would allow you to assign extra gestures, or perhaps alter a limited number of things like the animation for moving from page to page, etc.  It could be a very simple feature that is automatically "off" so that users who want to "keep it simple" don't need to bother with it.  I think this would allow many Apple users to "customize" while also allowing apple to delimit the range of this customization and retain control of the optimal experience.  Would it really be so much of a stretch to have a limited "customize" option in the settings allowing for a few of the enjoyable cydia-style options but done formally through Apple? 

 

I don't think Apple "needs" to do this...but it'd be nice. 

 

[Edit: I responded because I don't particularly enjoy talking to my phone...it takes a certain mental/emotional energy to open my mouth, whereas if I'm already holding my phone, a simple gesture or a few quick taps are typically much faster than holding to wait for Siri, talking, and then waiting for it to process the request.]


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