Apple rival Samsung's Galaxy S IV shows up in online video ahead of launch - Page 2

No one mentions the price yet. It could be a shock for Apple outside of the US that is without subsidy.

 

Haha, nice one. I was commenting in the context of buying a phablet to replace a phone and tablet though.

The samsung galaxy s4 might be a nice addition but it's nowhere near as good as the iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 will still be smoother, faster, easier to use, and made from premium materials.

Samsung is still playing catch up with the s4.

 

I figured it was only fair. One-post user comes onto an Apple site heralding the 'benefits' of the competition—may as well bring it back to reality.

Galaxy IV... She's a beaut....

 

I'm still using my iP4 because I'm trying to vote with my wallet.

 

I'm dealing with the same conflict you are. I want a bigger screen, but I don't want to switch from iOS to Android. I haven't yet caved and bought a Samsung, but I haven't bought a new iPhone either. I realize the affect this has on shareholders, but hopefully Apple will eventually knuckle under to the pressure I'm putting on them and we can all get what we want.

 

I'm clinging to the faint hope that Apple will offer a bigger unit within the next few months, but that hope is quickly fading. Sometime soon I'll have to decide whether to accept the smaller screen to maintain the interoperability I want or give that up to get a bigger screen. Decision, decisions.

It seems real laggy. I am therefore going to have to conclude that this is a genuine Android phone.

This surf board with a screen is NOT worthy of a media event.

We'll see how much that Android malware annoys you. 

Probably not at all. I've not seen anything to indicate that any significant percentage of users have encountered malware, at least what you or I would term malware. The security software folks have a pretty broad definition, and for obvious reasons.

You used IT.
You told me off for the same use of the word.
I do have an amazing memory

 

Kids don't care. Especially outside US, t.i., 93% of the world. They want bigger screen. Phone is their primary internet access point.

For someone who thinks he/she is up to date tech news wise, you certainly are not, or are spinning again?
78% of malware is found on android devices versus 0.17% for iOS.
So malware is not a problem? Are you serious?
I see, you have your own definition of malware now!
You are so easy to catch out, how many times
is that now?

 

*cough*

No doubt.

 

 

If I were absolutely forced to have to use an Android phone, there is no way I'd pick this.  The HTC One is a beautiful phone- and I love the infrared sensor power button. Its really the first one to compete with the aesthetics of the iPhone IMO.  Too bad it runs a garbage OS.

Edited by Andysol - 3/12/13 at 1:39pm

I'd hold my horses with statements like that. Until some benchmarks start hitting web.

Yeah I do agree it does not look spectacular, in my book at least. A bit too much like S3. I'd expect a bit more from Samsung's top dog.

But then, I wasn't too thrilled with S3 looks and it sold well. Obviously more than enough people will not prioritize look and premium material selection. People that I know using S3 seem to be very happy with it, down to the last one.

Hardware in S4... if leaks are correct... looks, well, interesting. But only if Samsung managed to control heat, battery life and present performance gain obvious in everyday usage, or at least in as many scenarios as possible. If running citadel demo smoothly at 1080 is the only visible advantage of such hardware, then unfortunately it means that Sammy is also running out of new ideas and going for safe performance-boost-for-performance-sake-only approach, which would be unfortunate.

 

Most all of which is on 3rd party app stores used on extremely cheap phones sold in foreign countries that Google bans from Google ecosystem. So yes, he is serious.

Unless you go enable installation of 3rd party apps and ignore the harsh security warning Google spits at you and proceed to download random foreign language apps, Android has the same malware risk as iOS.

Samsung fail 5.0 trying to compete with S3 and S mini, iPhone 5 still is better, huh.

Because you are putting citations on every bold statement you make...

I am not the least bit worried by that. I had an HTC Evo prior to my iPhone and am very comfortable with Android. I still prefer iOS to Android but I far prefer the new jelly Bean Android over the 2.3 Gingerbread I used on the Evo. Malware on Android to me at least seems a pretty big whoop dee doo about nothing. There are many reasons to buy an iPhone over an Android device like better apps, better ecosystem in general, more accessories, and maybe a preference for iOS but that malware boogeyman is not a valid reason in my opinion. 

 

I do not want to switch to an Android and as I stated before I would do so as a last resort. But ultimately we must all prioritize what elements of a phone we find most valuable in day to day use and for me that is the display size. That is my biggest complaint about my current iPhone. 5 years ago when my eyesight was still perfect it would not have been an issue but for anyone with less than stellar vision you appreciate that bigger and far easier to read display. But aside from that I just like having more on the screen to view and less scrolling.For games, photos, video, pretty much everything looks better to me at least on a bigger display.  I honestly couldn't care less what the phone looks like or if it is made of aluminum. Perhaps I am in the minority but all my phones have been in cases and my next one will as well. 

 

Apple will have no choice but to eventually make this larger phone. They gambled and lost that the 4" would be enough to silence the critics. At this point it is only a question of when not if. And when they do, I will be first in line and I suspect tens of millions of Android phone owners who had never consider an iPhone due to the small display will also give the iPhone a shot to see what all the fuss was about. Well over half the apps I use most frequently either require landscape mode or work better horizontally. That change alone is a big reason to want a larger display since one handed mode is really only suited for portrait mode. And even in portrait I find myself resting in my left palm while using my right index finger to navigate the GUI or type. Is complete one handed use while viewing the screen really an important issue for the majority of you?  For texts as well it is just so much faster for me to use both thumbs instead of one. I don't expect everyone to hold or use their iPhone in the exact manner I do but I think that is the big disconnect I have with the iPhone since I use it far more in landscape mode. Perhaps with better eyesight and more portrait use in one hand I would be satisfied. 

 

Were I to claim that kids don't care and speak as to their preferences, yes I'd give a citation.

 

My sentiments exactly, thank you!

Funny how at the beginning of the video in the background the sales shpeel is talking about the iPad. Samsung's got a bigger screen, so it's a bigger p.o.s.

I predict that the same Samsung loving fanatics people who mocked that the iPhone 5 was "LOL EXACTLY THE SAME BUT LONGER" (except it wasn't, completely rebuilt with different materials) will slobber all over this phone and won't mind one bit that it looks pretty much identical.

I don't need anything. Just stated some facts.

 

Did any samsung phone innovated in any area? No. Are they fast? Hell no, they are the slowest top phones available (experience). Are they cheaper? No. How's their build quality? Sh*t.

 

Please explain to me what was so innovative about the iPhone 5. I would say out of all the mobile phone companies, the innovation has been coming from Google. Fortunately for Samsung, they get to use those Google innovations.

Who actually buys the phone based on the look of it? The S3 was already a nice sized phone and in my opinion was big enough. I think 5" is getting pretty darn close to the maximum size people want to carry around although no doubt the Note 3 will be even bigger. Most Android owning friends I have are not fanatics nor do they visit online forums to praise or bash a phone. I would wager 99% of all iPhone owners and Android owners would fall into that category. This big Android vs. iPhone invented war is fought by a few thousands in some imagined war whereas most people are just busy living their lives and do not even know this epic war is being fought. 

 

Although very anecdotal I challenge any of you to ask friends why they bought that big Android phone and 8 times out of 10 it won't be because they hate Apple, are fandroid soldiers, or any other such nonsense. It will be because they went into the store and liked the big screen or maybe saw a commercial, or many other reasons that have nothing to do with this imagined war. My best friend loves Apple and is extremely knowledgeable about tech since he is a computer engineer. He decided on the HTC Droid DNA simply because he liked the screen and felt that was more important than the looks of an iPhone 5 or iOS. It was just that simple. He also said that if Apple makes a larger version he would gladly switch. So good luck in your imagined war where people slobber over a piece of metal or plastic. 

 

When I owned the Note 2 this eventually happened daily. Drop phone - back pops off - battery comes flying out.

Linux's not a garbage OS. While you might argue about Android (which I believe is a pretty good piece of engineering, but obviously you disagree, and who am I to say you're wrong? I don't know you, you might be an expert in OS design), I think that both iOS and Android are amazing Unixes, and we are lucky to live in a world where both main OSes are UNIX-based, instead of Microsoft(R)Windows(R)Extreme(TM)Professional(TM)Mobile(TM)Edition(R), or some equally ridiculous idea by Steve B.

Looks like an iPhone to me, and on top of it, is not "real" yet. It's still a "will exist later" phone.

It will be very much real very soon. Far sooner than the iPhone 5S or 6 or whatever will come from Apple later in the year. And out of curiosity, which non iPhone smart phone doesn't look like an iPhone to you? Unlike cars which are huge and easily differentiated even from a distance, smart phones are all going thinner. They are all rectangles some with sharper and some with more rounded corners, they all have a display, some have one button and others have a few more on the front. Should Android makers make an oval shaped phone to satisfy you? I really just don't see how this is copying an iPhone aside from the rudimentary and necessary elements that all smart phones currently share. 

You seem to be one of the angriest members here. Relax a bit and we can have a discussion.

 

There's absolutely no articles I have read that claim the typical Android user has been hit with malware. None. If you disagree then simply link a few articles that show otherwise. Tossing around claims that Android users are X% more likely to encounter malware doesn't say much about how much risk they actually have. How many malware instances "in the wild" in your 78% mention? And how many users are affected? Is it one in 10? One in 100? One in 1000? And where is it coming from? I don't have any doubt that the opportunity for malware is higher on Android than iOS. Much less curation. But I do have real doubts that "malware" is a significant danger for the average Android user, particularly outside of Russia and China.

 

Mixed in with a typical fear and dread Android malware article in January Trend-Micro at least made this clarification:

"However, so far Android malware is not widely used in targeted attacks that are often intended to steal sensitive data, which are still mostly aimed at PCs, Genes points out, "But that could change."

 

And what IS malware according to companies promoting antivirus solutions. Is adware given the same threat-level as spyware? In some reports it is. If an app delivers ads without alerting the user in advance to that behavior it's malware.  If an app reads your contacts without noting it to the user it's malware. If it reads your location without listing it in  the app description, it''s malware. If there's any data that's read such as device ID or phone number yet not listed in the user permissions, it's malware.  The most recent article here reporting on F-Secure even included Android testing software that could be used to root out malware in the list of malware. Huh? 

 

With none of the reports listing specifics like the number of people infected, what it did, or how it happened, reports like the recent one from F-Secure could just as likely be FUD as fact IMO

http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/07/f-secure-android-malware-report/

 

EDIT: Sorry for the distraction from discussing the upcoming S4. Discussion of Android malware probably belongs in a more appropriate thread. 

Edited by Gatorguy - 3/12/13 at 4:31pm

I saw that, and appreciated it. Actually I had the same intention, trying to restore a little balance on a page where the comments almost unanimously praise iPhone's highlights and ignore the GS4's strong points.  I felt especially compelled to say something in response to the "iPhone is for pretty people with money who know a great phone when they see it, and GS4 is for the poor and unrefined masses" sentiment.

 

That said, I wouldn't trade my iPhone for anything. The software and UX put it in a class of its own. But I freely acknowledge that the GS4 has it beat in almost every hardware spec, and the nifty features it's touting will be a joy to use in their own respects.  Comments like "ugly, zero innovation, crappy UI" are emotion, not reality.

Blah blah blah

Facts are presented to you android apologists, but facts are irrelevant when it hurts.

The article was on AI a few days ago, and you commented on it.

Jeeze you have poor memory, or is it a selected one ?

If someone tells me, you have a 78% chance of being hit by the train if you cross at the level crossing that is not controlled by warning lights and a barrier, versus 0.17% if you cross where it is encouraged to (due to warning/barrier etc.), I guess you would not only cross where its dangerous but poke your tongue to mock those who do the correct thing. Not only that, you will be blind folded, have cotton wool stuff in your ears, spun around and then pushed towards the crossing.

The pusher ensuring that your travel coincides with the train time table.

But in your warped mind, you are safe.

The article didn't claim Android devices had a 78% chance of being infected with malware so you've not offered a valid analogy. When you can come back with a source showing the actual rate of infection then we have something to discuss. X% of some undefined number doesn't tell you a thing about how prevalent malware is.

 

 

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I was completely distracted by that guys creepy hands. Made me feel dirty watching him fondle that brick.

Dude, you need learn to be more careful or schedule an appointment with your doctor.  Perhaps there is something wrong with your coordination or you suffer from a neural muscular skeletal degradation issue. You shouldn't be dropping your phone daily, unless you are a stunt acrobatic skateboarder trying to txt and grind at the same time.

That's how I broke my Powebook 5300

I repeat it was on AI and you commented on the article.
So where did they pull the 78% from?
In what context was this discussed? I know, however you go and find out yourself.
I stand by what I wrote.
So sick of liars.