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Apple has been quietly updating its much maligned iOS Maps app over the past weeks, adding Flyover support for 15 new cities, while updating 3D building rendering, turn-by-turn navigation, points of interest and other tweaks for many others.

As reported by The Loop, Apple is continually updating its mapping service and has recently added a number of new cities that support the company's proprietary 3D Flyover view.

Cologne
Flyover view of Cologne Cathedral in Cologne, Germany.


New cities to offer Flyover support:
  • Modesto, CA
  • Stockton, CA
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Portland, ME
  • Albany, NY
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Providence, RH
  • Green Bay, WI
  • Vancouver, BC
  • Cologne, Germany
  • Glasgow, Scotland

Expanded Flyover coverage in cities with existing support:
  • Birmingham, AL
  • Boston, MA
  • Portland, OR
  • Houston, TX
  • Toronto, ON
  • Copenhagen, Denmark
  • London, England
  • Lyon, France
  • Berlin, Germany
  • Munich, Germany
  • Rome, Italy
  • Barcelona, Spain
  • Madrid, Spain
  • Stockholm, Sweden

In addition to the enhanced Flyover support, Apple has extended 3D building renderings for locations that do not yet have access to the feature.

Apple also updated a number of Chinese assets, including a new coloring scheme, Chinese character readability, point of interest tweaks, and road network changes. Other improvements include expanded international points of interest with new iconography and more accurate address data.

It was reported in February that job listings pointed to ongoing development of Apple's mapping platform, with hires including software engineers and, more recently, fact checkers.

The company is working hard to rectify a shaky launch in September 2012 that drew the ire of users around the world, who complained of multiple inaccuracies, poor implementation of the Flyover feature and various usability issues. Compounding the problem was Apple's decision to ditch Google Maps, which powered iOS Maps until iOS 6, a move that left iOS device users without familiar features like Google's Street View and public transit times.
post #2 of 99
Wow, alot of new cities. Bash it all you want, but I love flyover. It's impressive each and everytime I use it. It will get even better as the power RAM of these devices increases, and bandwidth goes up.
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Seeing Modesto and Stockton on the list makes me wonder how they are assigning priority to Maps improvements.
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Yay, Vancouver. Going to check it out later.

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Seeing Modesto and Stockton on the list makes me wonder how they are assigning priority to Maps improvements.

It's probably based on what data they can get that's clean.  Modesto and Stockton are probably some of the bigger cities in Ca they still have left to do.  Who knows?

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When will OS X have access I wonder?
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post #7 of 99
Alright, Flyover takes time and whatnot. Fair enough. Generally however, there are many places around the world where the maps are almost blank. Forget flyover and complete your data first. Start with street names for example. And please do this while people still care.
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Apple maps is infintly better than google maps (via web).

I cannot comment on the google map app on the iDevice, but I don't care as this shit will never get past the tighest quality control out there, thats me.

Based on the UI from past uses of google, I can be 100% certain that its rubbish.

Apple maps work fine for me, and it will only get better over time.

Where are the whiners when google first released their map app ? Where are you ? I can smell you but not see you ? Please come out and play.

post #9 of 99
I noticed that many, many more cities already have the outlines of 3D buildings. I've just checked Boston and Washington DC to confirm I didn't just imagine it.
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Alright, Flyover takes time and whatnot. Fair enough. Generally however, there are many places around the world where the maps are almost blank. Forget flyover and complete your data first. Start with street names for example. And please do this while people still care.

 

Flyover and improving map data can be done completely independently, I doubt they're taking time from one to work on the other. Mapping the architecture from the sky has nothing to do with sourcing better data. I have no doubt their primary focus on maps is improving the data further. 

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Alright, Flyover takes time and whatnot. Fair enough. Generally however, there are many places around the world where the maps are almost blank. Forget flyover and complete your data first. Start with street names for example. And please do this while people still care.


Where? Where are "many places around the world where the maps are almost blank?" I would like a list.
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Just checked out flyover for Minneapolis and the POI they have tagged to the Metrodome is the Minnesota Twins. <facepalm>

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Where? Where are "many places around the world where the maps are almost blank?" I would like a list.

Perhaps he/she means that the maps are blank not in terms of streets but business/POI data. That's largely been my experience. Apple Maps is decent for roads but for my purposes has been fairly useless in terms of finding businesses I look up. Others seem fine with it so clearly very dependent on user location and search habits.
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Perhaps he/she means that the maps are blank not in terms of streets but business/POI data. That's largely been my experience. Apple Maps is decent for roads but for my purposes has been fairly useless in terms of finding businesses I look up. Others seem fine with it so clearly very dependent on user location and search habits.

Where? The question is still valid.
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What they need to do is to reality check all the Yelp-sourced POIs and location data.  Or replace the Yelp location data entirely.

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post #16 of 99
Flyover is neat toy and all, but I want a maps app on my phone that can locate POIs that exist and are not closed. Apple doesn't get me there, Google does.
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Who cares about flyover when the underlying data from Tom Tom is still crap
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One more thing - seriously, flyover in Modesto and Stockton? Really?

What's next? Flyover in Gary, Indiana? Compton, CA? Queens, NY? a garbage dump? LOL
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What they need to do is to reality check all the Yelp-sourced POIs and location data.  Or replace the Yelp location data entirely.


The problem with this is that Apple has secured multiple data sources including Acxiom, Factual and Localeze. Yelp only provides business reviews. Acxiom, Factual and Localeze are data aggregators and are considered the authoritative sources for business listings even more so than Google.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post

Where? The question is still valid.

I'm sure there are many places, but anywhere in the Republic of Panama is almost void of POI. In fact the only POI on the Amador Causeway is from the late 1970s when it was a US military base. Now, that it is no longer a base, there are hundreds of restaurants and shops there but none are listed.

 

I think one of the main problems in the world outside of the US, UK, Japan is that there are no street addresses. Things are described as x number of meters diagonal to the south east from the fire station for example. They use landmarks not numerical addresses.


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One more thing - seriously, flyover in Modesto and Stockton? Really?

What's next? Flyover in Gary, Indiana? Compton, CA? Queens, NY? a garbage dump? LOL


Modesto and Stockton are exactly where Apple should focus.

List of United States cities by population

1. New York, NY
2. Los Angeles, CA
3. Chicago, IL
...
10. San Jose, CA
...
14. San Francisco, CA
...
35. Sacramento, CA
...
46. Oakland, CA
...
63. Stockton, CA
...
107. Modesto, CA


As we can see, Modesto and Stockton are relatively large cities within the United States. Furthermore, Modesto and Stockton are immediately adjacent to three very large metropolitan statistical areas as well as the sixth most populous combined statistical area in the United States.

The Largest Combined Statistical Areas of the United States of America

1. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA
3. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA
4. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA
5. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA
6. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA


San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
  • San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA
  • San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA
  • Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA MSA
  • Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA
  • Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA MSA
  • Napa, CA MSA


When we consider the preceding in conjunction with evidence that California (with Massachusetts) has the highest rate of iPhone ownership per capita (in 2010) then we can envision why Apple might desire to expend resources in this region.
Edited by MacBook Pro - 3/12/13 at 8:50pm
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Who cares about flyover when the underlying data from Tom Tom is still crap

What data specifically in Apple Maps is sourced from Tom Tom?
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Originally Posted by quinney View Post

Seeing Modesto and Stockton on the list makes me wonder how they are assigning priority to Maps improvements.

Clearly not high priority targets. It is possible that they built these as some sort of "test" (especially since they are relatively close to Cupertino), and then just said "Fine, throw them in on the list" once they had completed the work.

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The urban myth about Street View on iOS continues... Street View was NEVER available on iOS... It was not 'lost' when Apple went to its own mapping device...
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What they need to do is to reality check all the Yelp-sourced POIs and location data.  Or replace the Yelp location data entirely.

 

They likely are checking it, which is why updates take so long.

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The urban myth about Street View on iOS continues... Street View was NEVER available on iOS... It was not 'lost' when Apple went to its own mapping device...

I hate to tell you but Google Street View was previously available on the Maps app on the iPhone. See here for some analysis regarding the misunderstanding.
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Clearly not high priority targets. It is possible that they built these as some sort of "test" (especially since they are relatively close to Cupertino), and then just said "Fine, throw them in on the list" once they had completed the work.

No... having lived in California for many years, I can tell you that if you find yourself in either Modesto or Stockton, you're lost.  A good map is exactly what you need in order to go somewhere better.  ;)

 

I'm more concerned about "Providence, RH".  

What state is RH?  Rhode Hampshire?

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I think Omaha Nebraska is next, the overhead air traffic has picked up...

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When will OS X have access I wonder?

I bet this summer.

They will probably have a Maps application and a web interface.

post #31 of 99
The maps still says I live directly next to Parkway golf course in Fremont, a golf course which is actually about 2 miles up the street from me.

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Seeing Modesto and Stockton on the list makes me wonder how they are assigning priority to Maps improvements.

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It's probably based on what data they can get that's clean.  Modesto and Stockton are probably some of the bigger cities in Ca they still have left to do.  Who knows?

I live fairly close to both and neither are major cities. They're both small towns compared to the rest of the Bay Area. So it is odd they would pick those towns instead of higher populated areas like San Jose or Palo Alto (which is also small but is a busy lil town) or even Oakland.
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... and the hoover dam bypass bridge finally goes over the colorado rather than down into the canyon and sitting on top of the river.
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"Compounding the problem was Apple's decision to ditch Google Maps, which powered iOS Maps until iOS 6, a move that left iOS device users without familiar features like Google's Street View and public transit times."

Complaining that Google Maps was taken away without mentioning that they are now available on the iPhone again is sloppy writing.

"The Press" may have done a lot of complaining about Apple maps but I (someone who uses Apple maps every day) personally found it to be a BIG improvement over Google's feature-hobbled maps that was on IOS previously.
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Troy NY also has FlyOver.  

Check out Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and Russell Sage College in FlyOver.

Very cool.  Go Apple...

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Of no practical value whatsoever, unlike street view.
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I live fairly close to both and neither are major cities. They're both small towns compared to the rest of the Bay Area. So it is odd they would pick those towns instead of higher populated areas like San Jose or Palo Alto (which is also small but is a busy lil town) or even Oakland.

You do realize that major sections of Oakland, Palo Alto and San Jose as well as Cupertino, Hayward, Milpitas, Mountain View, Sacramento, San Francisco, South San Francisco, and Sunnyvale already have 3D Flyover renderings?

Compared to many cities in the United States, Modesto and Stockton are "major cities." For example, Stockton has a greater population than Buffalo, NY; Durham, NC; Newark, NJ; Orlando, FL; or Reno, NV.
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The urban myth about Street View on iOS continues... Street View was NEVER available on iOS... It was not 'lost' when Apple went to its own mapping device...

I always scratch my head when I read posts that proclaim something with words like never and terms like urban myth. You're so cocksure about your comment that I can't help but assume that you have extensively researched this "fact" which is why you haven't phrased your comment as I think or I believe yet you're wrong and it's easily verifiable as noted by a previous comment.

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Of no practical value whatsoever, unlike street view.

 

Sure, That's why Google is trying to copy it but can't. :)

In the mean time, you sir are in denial.

I prefer to zoom in with FlyOver in Apple Maps than to use StreetView.  I don't use Google Maps anymore on iOS.

Once Apple Maps is available on OS X I will use it there as well instead of Google Maps.

With so many Maps available nowadays, I think Apple Maps is very rich and yet has amazing potential.


Edited by AppleSauce007 - 3/12/13 at 11:20pm
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San Antonio, Texas is the largest city by population in the United States which does not have 3D Flyover rendering. San Antonio is the seventh largest city by population in the United States.

Here is a list of cities in the United States by Population and a notation if the city doesn't have 3D Flyover.

1. New York, NY
2. Los Angeles, CA
3. Chicago, IL
4. Houston, TX
5. Philadelphia, PA
6. Phoenix, AZ
7. San Antonio, TX - No Flyover
8. San Diego, CA
9. Dallas, TX
10. San Jose, CA
11. Jacksonville, FL - No Flyover
12. Indianapolis, IN
13. Austin, TX
14. San Francisco, CA
15. Columbus, OH - No Flyover
16. Ft. Worth, TX
17. Charlotte, NC - No Flyover
18. Detroit, MI - No Flyover
19. El Paso, TX - No Flyover
20. Memphis, TN
21. Boston, MA
22. Seattle, WA
23. Denver, CO
24. Baltimore, MD
25. Washington, D.C. - No Flyover
26. Nashville, TN
27. Louisville, KY - No Flyover
28. Milwaukee, WI - No Flyover
29. Portland, OR
30. Oklahoma City, OK - No Flyover
31. Las Vegas, NV
32. Albuquerque, NM - No Flyover
33. Tucson, AZ - No Flyover
34. Fresno, CA - No Flyover
35. Sacramento, CA
36. Long Beach, CA
37. Kansas City, MO - No Flyover
38. Mesa, AZ - No Flyover
39. Virginia Beach, VA - No Flyover
40. Atlanta, GA
41. Colorado Springs, CO - No Flyover
42. Raleigh, NC - No Flyover
43. Omaha, NE - No Flyover
44. Miami, FL
45. Tulsa, OK - No Flyover
46. Oakland, CA
47. Cleveland, OH
48. Minneapolis, MN - No Flyover
49. Wichita, KS - No Flyover
50. Arlington, TX
51. New Orleans, LA
52. Bakersfield, CA - No Flyover
53. Tampa, FL - No Flyover
54. Anaheim, CA - No Flyover
55. Honolulu, HI
56. Aurora, CO
57. Santa Ana, CA - No Flyover
58. St. Louis, MO - No Flyover
59. Riverside, CA - No Flyover
60. Corpus Christi, TX - No Flyover
Edited by MacBook Pro - 3/12/13 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by Ken_sanders_aia View Post

The urban myth about Street View on iOS continues... Street View was NEVER available on iOS... It was not 'lost' when Apple went to its own mapping device...


Hey buddy, I've got some news for you:

 

 

but just so you know, as it seems you are unaware how Street View was accessible on the iOS map, this kid put together a helpful Youtube video, four years ago.

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