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Andy Rubin leaves Google's Android team for 'new chapter' at same company

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Google Android chief Andy Rubin is leaving his position, the company announced on Wednesday, to take on an undefined "new chapter" at the company.

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The announcement was made by Google Chief Executive Larry Page in a post to the company's official blog. In it, Page recalled when he and company co-founder Sergey Brin first met Rubin back in 2004.

"He believed that aligning standards around an open-source operating system would drive innovation across the mobile industry," Page said. "Most people thought he was nuts. But his insight immediately struck a chord because at the time it was extremely painful developing services for mobile devices."

The CEO praised Rubin for having "exceeded" the "crazy ambitious goals" Google had for Android. According to Page, Rubin simply "decided it's time to hand over the reins and start a new chapter at Google."

Taking his place will be Sundar Pichai, who has previously worked on the Chrome browser and Apps teams at Google.The pace of innovation has never been greater, and Android is the most used mobile operating system in the world." - Google CEO Larry Page

"The pace of innovation has never been greater, and Android is the most used mobile operating system in the world: we have a global partnership of over 60 manufacturers; more than 750 million devices have been activated globally; and 25 billion apps have now been downloaded from Google Play," Rubin said.

The executive shakeup comes less than six months after Apple had its own major change for its mobile operating system, iOS. Scott Forstall, who previously served as Apple's iOS chief, was forced out at the company last October.

Before Rubin joined Google, he worked at Apple from 1989 to 1992. He then moved on to General Magic, then Danger, which made the Sidekick handset, before starting Android, Inc. He joined Google when the search giant acquired Android in 2005.

Google's Android and Apple's iOS are the two dominant platforms in the modern smartphone space.
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"He believed that aligning standards around an open-source operating system would drive innovation across the mobile industry," Page said. "Most people thought he was nuts. But his insight immediately struck a chord because at the time it was extremely painful developing services for mobile devices."

It also helped that Apple innovated to market first.
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It also helped that Apple innovated to market first.

 

And Sun/Oracle.

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Too bad General Magic was not a success ...

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Nice trick mentioning Forstall as if that has anything to do with this. But it does give you an 'apple connection' to justify posting this obvious attempt at hit whoring.

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post #6 of 49

So did Sundar Pichai previously work as an engineer at Apple too? Is he going to be "borrowing" some Apple IP he picked up from his time there?

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New position: Thief in Chief
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Am I the only person who cant stand his face? This photo in particular. He always looks like a smug jerk

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New position: Thief in Chief

What did he steal?

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What did he steal?

Google's entire business revolves around 'stolen' IP.

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Notice they did not say how much any of their developers have made from their entire open source experiment and the 25B downloads. They maybe sending him over to the Motorola side thinking he can fix their problems...

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"Android is the most used mobile operating system in the world"

Did they just say 'most used'?

Who's using it? And where?

Because hard data doesn't support that.
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Google's entire business revolves around 'stolen' IP.

Really? I did not know that. So just because Jerry Yang invented the search engine, no one else is allowed to release a different search engine?

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I wonder what Google thinks that exactly ONE company is having real success on the Android platform, cannibalizing everything else, and that's Samsung.

"He believed that aligning standards around an open-source operating system would drive innovation across the mobile industry,"

What "innovation" has Android driven from anyone else? Shitty skins by OEMs? These companies all use Android because it's a shitload cheaper than developing and maintaining their own OS. That's it.
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"Thief, Rubins! We hates it forever!!!"
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Google may be getting ready to pull the plug on Android.

 

Stop further development of Android. Why let Samsung make most of the profits?  Milk as much revenue from the Android installed base as possible. 

 

Develop a Chrome OS for the smartphones to be sold exclusively by Motorola.

 

Google/Samsung split is coming.

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Yup, that's probably it.

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Am I the only person who cant stand his face? This photo in particular. He always looks like a smug jerk
Exactly what I was about to mention. That smug and smirk, wants me to give him a sandwich, one full of a fist that is.
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What did he steal?
Are you fucking serious?
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AndyAndy's new chapter at Google will be leaving the company... Gone by Aug 1.

 

A public vote of confidence from Larry Page -- is the same as one from Pontius Pilate.


Edited by Dick Applebaum - 3/13/13 at 1:41pm
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Google may be getting ready to pull the plug on Android.

 

Not going to happen. That's not how Google's culture works.

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What did he steal?

 

 

A manufacturing engineer at Apple from 1989 to 1992 (yeah, that incredibly successful period) who then went on to 'innovate' at Google, Andy Rubin demonstrates that, not only will he steal Steve Job's operating system, but Steve Job's look as well...

 

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Am I the only person who cant stand his face? This photo in particular. He always looks like a smug jerk

I agree with you. I've always hated that smug smirk on his face. You can almost see him thinking "that's right, I can steal code, make millions, and there is nothing you can do about it."
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

Nice trick mentioning Forstall as if that has anything to do with this. But it does give you an 'apple connection' to justify posting this obvious attempt at hit whoring.

 

As if people are madly Binging (or DuckDuckGo-ing or Baidu-ing or Googling) "Scott Forstall" any more.

But, speaking of connections, how about this:

 

Andy Rubin, Scott Forstall, and Steve Sinofsky could form a brand new company.

The company would develop a Google Glass clone, running "no compromises" Windows 8, and it would ship on schedule.

Even if it wasn't finished.

 

The differentiator from Google Glass would be the AirStylus, a bluetooth-equipped stylus that you could use to draw in the air, pull down menus in the air, tap targets in the air, and generally act even more dorky, by waving the stylus in the air, than you would with plain old boring Google Glass.  AirStylus would give you even more excuses to totally ignore people you're looking directly through.

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Not going to happen. That's not how Google's culture works.

 

It's not about culture.  It's about strategy.

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Too bad General Magic was not a success ...

In a commercial sense, it wasn't. But innovation isn't always about selling millions of units of widgets. Many of the people who were involved there, including the founders and the young engineers they inspired, were brilliant engineers. Tony Fadell and Andy Rubin are just two examples.

 

Many people here have automatically negative filters for anyone who works for a competitor of Apple. But if you know anything about engineering or software development, you would have at least a grudging respect for what Rubin has accomplished. There are only a handful of people in the world who have done what he has.

 

To those who accuse him of "stealing", lest we forget, ask some former researchers at Palo Alto what they thought of Jobs. Ask some employees at Apple, past and present (including Ive), who have accused Jobs of taking credit for their ideas. Fact is - few (none?) of you know what happened at Google or Android. You are simply filtering rumors to fit your image of how you want to think of Google, etc. If you have any idea of how difficult it is to build (or borrow or steal or ...) something like Android (or iOS or Linux, or ...), you would respect Rubin's accomplishment. But you don't, because it is easier being an armchair critic rather than an engineer or entrepreneur who takes risks and create something.

 

 

Lest we forget, iOS is and will continue to be better because of Google and Android. For that, even Apple should thank Andy Rubin.

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A manufacturing engineer at Apple from 1989 to 1992 (yeah, that incredibly successful period) who then went on to 'innovate' at Google, Andy Rubin demonstrates that, not only will he steal Steve Job's operating system, but Steve Job's look as well...

 

1wink.gif

 

You missed a very key point. One of the main patents that Apple is asserting against Android was developed by two senior engineers at Apple. Get this, they developed it at the same time Andy Rubin was working there, and Andy Rubin worked directly under these two engineers at the same time this patent was being developed. That's a huge coincidence.

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You missed a very key point. One of the main patents that Apple is asserting against Android was developed by two senior engineers at Apple. Get this, they developed it at the same time Andy Rubin was working there, and Andy Rubin worked directly under these two engineers at the same time this patent was being developed. That's a huge coincidence.

Not that I don't believe you but could we get some links? I have not heard anything about this before and you didn't provide enough information to even Google it.

 

Edit: Found it.

 

http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-got-inspiration.html

 

I just read the entire patent here:
 

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,343,263.PN.&OS=PN/6,343,263&RS=PN/6,343,263

 

This sounds like ancient history of the modem. There is one funny typo too referring to 'even the most modem modems'...

 

This was filed in 2002 and the way it it is written, as with many patents, it is just vague claims. I certainly don't like how fast Android was able to recreate such a similar OS after seeing the first iPhone but I seriously doubt it had anything to do with this patent. Rubin had been gone for several years before this patent was granted. I think Google just sat down with a bunch of PhDs and simply reverse engineered the thing from scratch. Seriously doubt Rubin having worked at Apple had anything to do with it.


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In a commercial sense, it wasn't. But innovation isn't always about selling millions of units of widgets. Many of the people who were involved there, including the founders and the young engineers they inspired, were brilliant engineers. Tony Fadell and Andy Rubin are just two examples.

 

Many people here have automatically negative filters for anyone who works for a competitor of Apple. But if you know anything about engineering or software development, you would have at least a grudging respect for what Rubin has accomplished. There are only a handful of people in the world who have done what he has.

 

To those who accuse him of "stealing", lest we forget, ask some former researchers at Palo Alto what they thought of Jobs. Ask some employees at Apple, past and present (including Ive), who have accused Jobs of taking credit for their ideas. Fact is - few (none?) of you know what happened at Google or Android. You are simply filtering rumors to fit your image of how you want to think of Google, etc. If you have any idea of how difficult it is to build (or borrow or steal or ...) something like Android (or iOS or Linux, or ...), you would respect Rubin's accomplishment. But you don't, because it is easier being an armchair critic rather than an engineer or entrepreneur who takes risks and create something.

 

Lest we forget, iOS is and will continue to be better because of Google and Android. For that, even Apple should thank Andy Rubin.

 

So let me just summarise that:

 
Rubin stole stuff but you reckon Jobs did as well so that's okay.
 
Few of us actually know what happened but, thankfully, you're in the sole position of being the one that does. 
 
"If you have any idea of how difficult it is to build (or borrow or steal or ...) something like Android (or iOS or Linux, or ...), you would respect Rubin's accomplishment."
 
This comment has really got me scratching my head...
 
You are somehow under the impression that engineers and entrepreneurs don't use armchairs , and; 
 
Apple should be thankful that Google stole a large portion of their IP then used it to compete against them which then encouraged them to work  harder.
 
Is that correct?
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Edited by GTR - 3/13/13 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by dmarcoot View Post



"Am I the only person who cant stand his face? This photo in particular. He always looks like a smug jerk"

 

 

Looks like a perfectly reasonable picture, so maybe it is just you.

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To those who accuse him of "stealing", lest we forget, ask some former researchers at Palo Alto what they thought of Jobs. Ask some employees at Apple, past and present (including Ive), who have accused Jobs of taking credit for their ideas. Fact is - few (none?) of you know what happened at Google or Android. You are simply filtering rumors to fit your image of how you want to think of Google, etc. If you have any idea of how difficult it is to build (or borrow or steal or ...) something like Android (or iOS or Linux, or ...), you would respect Rubin's accomplishment.

Ah that Jobs stole from Xerox meme. Do some research, Xerox gave him permission to be there. Taking credit isn't stealing. Apple employees work for Apple. What ever they develop at Apple is property of Apple.

Google ripped off Java, iOS (even blackberry in pre-iPhone stage), oh and H.264.

It is difficult to develop OSs. Why can Apple develop iOS without stealing and Google cant? MS and blackberry developed original OSs.
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Originally Posted by dmarcoot View Post



"Am I the only person who cant stand his face? This photo in particular. He always looks like a smug jerk"

 

 

Looks like a perfectly reasonable picture, so maybe it is just you.

Maybe you look like him yourself, so its okay for you.

It loooks so effeminate.

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"Google ripped off Java, iOS (even blackberry in pre-iPhone stage), oh and H.264.

It is difficult to develop OSs. Why can Apple develop iOS without stealing and Google cant? MS and blackberry developed original OSs."

 

If you are so convinced google stole iOS, why doesn't Apple have the balls to go after Google? Maybe they know they will get their ass handed to them in court. Defeating a Korean company in your backyard isn't the same ballgame as going after an american company also based in CA. 

 

And all the haters making immature jokes about Andy Rubin's face and whatnot, at least he is promoted to a higher position from his previous role. Last I checked, Forstall was FIRED for pushing out the worst iOS update of all time. 

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Pretty sure this marks the end of the line for Chromebooks. Chrome Pixel was the Chrome OS team publicly eviscerating itself. Now Sundar Pichai is failing up to Android. Google will say something about focusing efforts on one platform and make some noise about integrating Chrome "innovations" into Android (i.e., it'll still have a web browser) before quietly axing the team and that'll be the last we hear of Chromebooks.

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What did he steal?

Didn't the jurors rule Android steal IP from Oracle?

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Google may be getting ready to pull the plug on Android.

 

Stop further development of Android. Why let Samsung make most of the profits?  Milk as much revenue from the Android installed base as possible. 

 

Develop a Chrome OS for the smartphones to be sold exclusively by Motorola.

 

Google/Samsung split is coming.

develop Chromes OS with Android foundation. That way they can cut Samsung off and make anyone who championed Android's openness looks like a complete fool.

This is clear. They want to be Samsung in mobile.

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Not going to happen. That's not how Google's culture works.

Google doesn't have culture anymore.

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 Ask some employees at Apple, past and present (including Ive), who have accused Jobs of taking credit for their ideas. 

hmm.. stealing and taking credit is not the same. You're lost there.

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Originally Posted by dmarcoot View Post



"Am I the only person who cant stand his face? This photo in particular. He always looks like a smug jerk"

 

 

Looks like a perfectly reasonable picture, so maybe it is just you.

Looks like you didn't read other posts. LOL.

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Maybe you look like him yourself, so its okay for you.

Good one.

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