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post #121 of 189
3/13/13 at 9:20pm
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Amazingly, I understood what you were saying, but could not believe that someone of your calibre could say something so patently idiotic. Amazon's android is (in essence) a skin on top of standard Android, and about two lines of configuration can, in fact, make it a fully functional android device. Amazon has some of their own functionality on the kindle, but the Amazon app store is a subset of the standard android store (can be made the whole store by changing the above-mentioned two lines). The UI not having with consuming amazon content is identical to any other android phone/tablet, and has very little to do with a garden-variety Red Hat server or a Ubuntu desktop (though it is true that you can ssh into a Kindle if you are really so inclined, and you can't into an iPhone.

Further, for a Kindle to be useful as a Kindle you HAVE to have an amazon account. That however, is all you need if all you want is a kindle, though if you want a general purpose tablet, a Google account comes in handy.

A fork is a fork. For example, Apple's A4 used ARM Cortex-A8. The A4 was their design but the Cortex-A8 came directly from ARM. Their later chips were considerably more custom to the point they can't even use Cortex-A9 and Cortex-A15 brands because they don't use them even those a great deal of their ARM components will be similar, if not the same, and it's still ARMv7 across the board.

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post #122 of 189
3/13/13 at 9:20pm
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1) Bullshit! You brought Samsung into the conversation to discredit Apple's achievement.

2) Bullshit! Samsung's ads, their marketing, their HW and SW designs are so similar to what Apple has done that you can't say it's just a coincidence. They took from Apple and took heavily. Whether it's illegal or not is irrelevant but they took from Apple. On top of that, where would Samsung be today without Apple changing up the smartphone market? Still copying the Blackberry, Nokia and Moto, I presume.

3) Apple is using Samsung right now and Samsung has the best ARM foundries for the quality and yield they need. These are production facilities only. They do not design anything for Apple. They aren't Apple's only chip manufacturer. Apple relies more on Foxconn as a sole production plant than anything to do with Samsung but I don't see you claiming Foxconn should get credit for Apple's success. Bullshit!

There isn't any real penalty for stealing or copying from another company. Perfect examply is Google was fined 7 million for stealing information. If you and I did that we would be in jail for 30 years. A 7 million dollar fine for Google is a joke.

 

At some point I start to wonder when all this stops becoming news. Most consumers don't know about the Samsung vs Apple situation and most will never care. All your points are valid but if feels like the time has past for anyone to really do anything about it legal or illegal. Both companies are simply too big to do any real damage to each other. Each one will win some and lose some in court.

 

These days all current smartphones tend to look alike to most consumers. If they can get on twitter, facebook, text and play games not sure anyone cares.

 

With all that being said Apple appears to be defensive and Samsung appears to be winning the ad battle at least in recent polls. It will be interesting to see how this all looks five years from now.

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post #123 of 189
3/13/13 at 10:29pm
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Schiller sounds like a whining baby complaining about competition instead of offering a legitimate product from his own company

No, it sounds like he is responding to a question he was asked during an interview.

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post #124 of 189
3/13/13 at 10:36pm
If you read the original WSJ piece, it's pretty obvious Schiller was mugged by these "journalists." There will be some repercussions. It was not an interview, it was a hit piece.
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post #125 of 189
3/13/13 at 10:50pm

What proof do you have that android stole from iOS? if Apple was so sure of that, why are they so scared to sue Google instead of crying and whining? 

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post #126 of 189
3/13/13 at 11:02pm
Originally Posted by Mars123

Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable? 

 

Jobs shoots his mouth off in, what, 1995?  About an event which happened in 1979.  And now it's somehow definitive proof that Apple steals ideas in 2013?

 

Maybe you should read some of the details about the Xerox PARC visits before you use them as proof of Apple stealing.  They also signed a stock agreement with Xerox about the visits, so it's not like they gave nothing in return.  Unlike Microsoft did later, and now Google has done by working around having to pay licensing to Sun (now Oracle) in regards to Java.

 

And how about the multitouch interface which Apple "stole" (purchased FingerWorks)?  Again, Apple pays to acquire their "stolen" technology rather than just using it and hoping no one is willing to take it to court.

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post #127 of 189
3/13/13 at 11:25pm
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What proof do you have that android stole from iOS? if Apple was so sure of that, why are they so scared to sue Google instead of crying and whining? 

 

Trouble is, Android isn't actually a product which Google directly profits from.  Hence why Apple has been going after the companies which do profit from using it in their products (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc) rather than Google itself.

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post #128 of 189
3/13/13 at 11:36pm

That's a lame excuse for Apple not suing Google. Oracle sued Google for using Java in Android even though google doesn't profit from android. Apple knows they have absolutely no chance of beating Google in a court room. That's why they are suing a Korean company in a court 10 miles from their HQ with local Jury. If Android was stolen, SJ would have sued Google way back in 2009. Its crazy everyone on Apple sites claim "Google stole android" yet no one can show any concrete proof. 

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post #129 of 189
3/14/13 at 12:24am
My what a thread!
My head hurts from the insane bullshit and lies from the trolls.
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post #130 of 189
3/14/13 at 12:26am

I think iOS needs some Big New Feature(TM). It sure would make Phil's job easier if he could say something concrete like "Our phone is better than their's because it can ..." (e.g. make your breakfast). 

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post #131 of 189
3/14/13 at 12:35am
He was too polite in those statements. I had Galaxy 2 Mini as second phone for few months, this was really a crappy experience, I don't want to go in details. I can only say, I was the happiest man in the world when I installed dual SIM module in my 4S.

Arguments like: "I don't need iTunes for Android, I can use >>anything else<< (why then?)", "I can copy music directly to phone" (why bother? where will you put it?), etc... are simply idiotic statements from no-brain boys who just don't get the purpose of such device.
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post #132 of 189
3/14/13 at 12:37am
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Trouble is, Android isn't actually a product which Google directly profits from.  Hence why Apple has been going after the companies which do profit from using it in their products (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc) rather than Google itself.

Good point! Android is given as free of charge. It is actually a devious plan, I need to give credit to Google for it, although I don't like it.

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post #133 of 189
3/14/13 at 1:03am
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/snip ...switching to an Android device seems silly if we don't know where they switch from (Apple, BB, MS?)

...but we do know, it's in the article.
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In a rare interview with The Wall Street Journal, Schiller went over fourth quarter 2012 metrics related to "switchers," or handset users who switched between an iPhone and an Android. Citing Apple research, the executive said that four times as many iPhone users switched away from Android than to a handset running Google's mobile OS.

Apparently I am so intoxicated with Samsung news I read 'Android' as 'Samsung' - my bad
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I've never owned a PC in my life.  I've had iPhones since the first one.  I have stuck with APPL.

But the reality distortion is gone, and I see Samsung/Android/Google not only taking over but driving Apple to extinction like a slowly evolving dinosaur that struggles to come up with a 5s while the competish has mutated randomly with blinding speed and variety to become top predator.

Ugh.  Selling APPL tomorrow (unless some wiser person convinces me otherwise lol).

Indeed, sell that petroleum stock and buy something nice for yourself.
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post #134 of 189
3/14/13 at 1:52am
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...runs through the middle of this incredible thread war wearing absolutely nothing and waving his pants round and round his head!

Woo hoo!!!!

 

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post #135 of 189
3/14/13 at 2:09am
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You value the opinion of a marketing guy more than that of the co-founder of Apple simply because he doesn't agree with you?

 

You value the opinion of a man who had nothing to do with the iMac, the iPod, OSX, the iPhone, the iPad, iOS ... over the opinion of the marketing director who was at least partially responsible for Apple becoming the world's most profitable consumer electronics company, simply because he doesn't agree with you?

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post #136 of 189
3/14/13 at 2:16am
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My what a thread!
My head hurts from the insane bullshit and lies from the trolls.

I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.

Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job! See you later this morning after the Samsung dance numbers.
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post #137 of 189
3/14/13 at 5:17am
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I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.

Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job! See you later this morning after the Samsung dance numbers.
They achieved their aim. But at least they gave us a bit of a laugh.
I find myself constantly shaking my head at the sheer idiocy of their comments, the really sad thing is that they actually believe what they write.
In the past I thought they were simply here to annoy people, but not now, not any more.
They would make many a shrink very rich and very happy.
I can't wait to read their shrill when the samdung g4 comes out shortly, man I can't wait. I want to be educated on how a plastic fantastic piece of junk is the best thing since, we'll since anything and everything.
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post #138 of 189
3/14/13 at 5:24am
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I never claimed Apple didn't design the Ax processor. Just like apple, Samsung also designs its own Exynos processor and they both use ARM architecture. The difference is Apple is dependent on Samsung to manufacture their chip while Samsung doesn't need Apple for anything except that Samsung needs Apple's R&D because they're unable to come up with anything original by themselves.. 

There. I fixed that for you.
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post #139 of 189
3/14/13 at 5:29am
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I think iOS needs some Big New Feature(TM). It sure would make Phil's job easier if he could say something concrete like "Our phone is better than their's because it can ..." (e.g. make your breakfast). 

Wouldn't work.

Apple could release some nice feature that was well-integrated and worked extremely well and provided a world class UI. All the shills would bring up something that was only vaguely related and which was total crap - and claim that Apple simply copied it.

Or they'd resort to their usual spec gams. "Ours has more cores (ignoring the fact that Apple's is still faster and smoother)". "Ours has a bigger screen (ignoring the fact that it's a crappy screen and is so large that it's hard to use as a phone)." "Ours has more megapixels (ignoring the fact that it's got such a cheap, crappy lens that its pictures are far worse than Apple provides)." No one but Apple understands the concept of a well-designed system that works well and provides great user satisfaction - so they're left with the sily spec games.
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post #140 of 189
3/14/13 at 5:44am
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Wouldn't work.

Apple could release some nice feature that was well-integrated and worked extremely well and provided a world class UI. All the shills would bring up something that was only vaguely related and which was total crap - and claim that Apple simply copied it.

Or they'd resort to their usual spec gams. "Ours has more cores (ignoring the fact that Apple's is still faster and smoother)". "Ours has a bigger screen (ignoring the fact that it's a crappy screen and is so large that it's hard to use as a phone)." "Ours has more megapixels (ignoring the fact that it's got such a cheap, crappy lens that its pictures are far worse than Apple provides)." No one but Apple understands the concept of a well-designed system that works well and provides great user satisfaction - so they're left with the sily spec games.

Gosh, you've just given up then. No wonder you write "Apple is doomed " so often.

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post #141 of 189
3/14/13 at 5:47am

Amazon doesn't brand it as an Android device. They are actually one of the people that are doing it right with Android, but in the end their implementation and model is closer to that of Apple's than any other vendor/carrier.

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post #142 of 189
3/14/13 at 6:23am
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Maybe you should read some of the details about the Xerox PARC visits before you use them as proof of Apple stealing.  They also signed a stock agreement with Xerox about the visits, so it's not like they gave nothing in return.  Unlike Microsoft did later...

Only at AI do people believe Apple prevailed in that case.  In the outside world, the court records are sufficient evidence of what happened in the court.

 

The situation with Xerox v Apple is very much like Apple v Microsoft:  in both cases a license agreement nullified most claims, with the remainder dismissed under other factors, such as failing on an "originality basis":

 

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After the district court ruled in favor of Microsoft, Apple appealed the decision arguing that the district court only considered infringements on the individual elements of Apple's GUI, rather than the interface as a whole. The appeals court almost entirely affirmed the ruling of the district court, establishing that, "almost all the similarities spring either from the license or from basic ideas and their obvious expression... illicit copying could occur only if the works as a whole are virtually identical."[1] However, the circuit court did reverse the district court's decision not to award attorney's fees to Microsoft, clarifying and sending the case back to the district court to resolve the issue.

 

The circuit court dissected the GUI, following the lead of the district court, in order to separate expression from ideas (as expression, but not ideas, are covered by copyright law).[6] The court outlined five ideas that it identified as basic to a GUI desktop: windows, icon images of office items, manipulations of icons, menus, and the opening and closing of objects.[1]The court established that Apple could not make copyright claims based on these ideas and could only make claims on the precise expression of them.

 

The court also pointed out that many of Apple's claims fail on an originality basis. Apple admittedly licensed many of its representations from Xerox, and copyright protection only extends to original expression. Apple returned to its "complete look and feel" argument, stating that while the individual components were not original, the complete GUI was. The court rejected these arguments because the parts were not original.

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post #143 of 189
3/14/13 at 6:36am
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Wouldn't work.

Apple could release some nice feature that was well-integrated and worked extremely well and provided a world class UI. All the shills would bring up something that was only vaguely related and which was total crap - and claim that Apple simply copied it.

 

No wonder people sometimes mistake you as being one of your own paranoid fantasy Android shills. It's like you have some kind of weird forum version of Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome.  You make up your own attacks against Apple ahead of time, and then cry foul over them.

 

All the person you responded to said, was that they wished Apple would come up with something big, that would impress the mass consumer.   Those buyers don't care about who came first or not, or what a forum thinks.

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post #144 of 189
3/14/13 at 6:50am
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I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.

Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job!

Thanks, but giving credit where due, a majority of contributors to this thread share in the recognition of how counter-productive it was for Schiller to give another headline to his competitor just before their big launch, esp. while using that opportunity to show how isolated and unfamiliar Apple is with their competition.

 

A more complete list of those noting these and other shortcomings with Schiller's defensiveness include:

 

ikrupp

eksodos

dasanman69

majjo

Evoken

PhillBoogie

ankleskater

MarquisMark

cherrypop

Chemicle

kevt

ruel24

Techstalker

TonyLee

bdkennedy1

fastasleep

geekdad

512ke

ealvarez

TJRSV

mstone

extremeskater

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You can shoot at messengers all you like, but as long as Schiller screws up like this a growing number of people will recognize it.

 

When we consider how little Apple has been spending on marketing compared to their competition, and the self-evident ineffectualness of Schiller's comments, Apple would do well to consider another change of VPs.


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post #145 of 189
3/14/13 at 6:55am
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Amazon doesn't brand it as an Android device.

I'll bet labeling their app store "Amazon Appstore for Android" in bold 64-point type really confuses people about whether the apps there are for Android. ;)

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post #146 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:11am
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You can shoot at messengers all you like, but as long as Schiller screws up like this a growing number of people will recognize it.

When we consider how little Apple has been spending on marketing compared to their competition, and the self-evident ineffectualness of Schiller's comments, Apple would do well to consider another change of VPs.

So "little" marketing account for record profits and 70% of the mobile profits. Indeed that's a failure. He should have earned Apple 103%.
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post #147 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:25am
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Citation needed.

 

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Why didn't you ask Phil for his citation? Or do you naively accept his claims at face value because they're pro-Apple?

 

I love it when the trolls turn on each other.

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post #148 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:30am
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... This is the "shift to Windows 95" moment, when Apple's elegant but higher priced phone/tablet offerings start to become marginalized by a competitor who is ever faster, more nimble, cheaper, and more frantic in its offerings. ...

 

Please, don't make analogies to the history of the computer industry when you don't even know that history. Your "'shift to Windows 95' moment" never happened.

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post #149 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:34am
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One more thing... ;)

 

Why is everyone talking about Phil making the claim about "logging in 9 times"?

 

Right, because nobody wants to talk about his other comments like fragmentation or the fact most Android devices are on a 2 year old OS. Let's pick apart a minor "comment" and avoid the real issues, which Phil is 100% correct about.

 

That's how the astroturfers roll. 

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post #150 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:42am
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... Kawasaki, Wozniak, and more recently Ihnakto, have all been quite public about their enjoyment of Android; no citation needed there. ...

 

Kawasaki is a professional shill now working for Google (Motorola), so his "opinion" is of no value. Andy Ihnatko has always been a yahoo. And Wozniak, although a very nice guy, is a hard core gadget freak who loves everything. These are about the weakest references, other than your own, that could possibly be given for Android's quality.

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post #151 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:49am
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I don't see any former Google employee switching from android to iOS, but the reverse is true. Goes to show how much better iOS is compared to android. 

 

Read it and weep: http://www.businessinsider.com/marissa-mayer-just-gave-every-yahoo-employee-an-iphone-5-2012-9

 

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Of course, "who cares what Wozniak said", except if Wozniak wasn't there, Steve Jobs would probably be selling Apples instead of apple computers. 

 

Steve Jobs would have done something impressive with his life, with or without Wozniak. Wozniak, on the other hand, might have just remained a cog at HP were it not for Jobs.

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post #152 of 189
3/14/13 at 7:58am
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APPL hasn't said or done anything since SJ...just look at their press releases on the website...one of the most recent posts is an apology for the maps fiasco and the iPhone5 that no-one "had" to have! My iPhone 4S is just as cool, or cooler and the shares i bought at $520 will take until the next Pope retires just to break even. ...

 

Right, because they were so chatty and released revolutionary products every year when SJ was still with us. Come back when you have a clue.

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post #153 of 189
3/14/13 at 8:02am

As soon as Kawasaki and Wozniak stopped advocating for apple, they became google schill? LOL. Referencing previous apple employees and fans are weak argument? Right. as long as the argument fits apple and your agenda, they are strong. Anyone with a taste/opinion otherwise is irrelevant. Its for people like anonymouse that apple gets away with pushing out the same thing every year with a simple update. They know blind fanboys like him would line up at 4 am on release day and buy the same rehashed product with an "S" at the end. Just ask yourself, from iPhone 4 to iphone 5 (two years) what has apple innovated that the competition didn't already have? 

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3/14/13 at 8:06am
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I'll bet labeling their app store "Amazon Appstore for Android" in bold 64-point type really confuses people about whether the apps there are for Android. ;)

 

So, are you a) claiming the Kindle Fire is an Android device, or b) simply trying to sow confusion to cover up the fact it isn't?

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3/14/13 at 8:15am
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. Its for people like anonymouse that apple gets away with pushing out the same thing every year with a simple update. They know blind fanboys like him would line up at 4 am on release day and buy the same rehashed product with an "S" at the end. Just ask yourself, from iPhone 4 to iphone 5 (two years) what has apple innovated that the competition didn't already have? 
hey genius, not everyone bought a 4 when it came out. The 4S was a godsend for those who couldn't get out of their contracts for the 4. And if iPhones are bought only by fanboys, why does Apple keep selling record numbers of iPhones?

As for innovation, Siri come to mind.
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3/14/13 at 8:19am
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As soon as Kawasaki and Wozniak stopped advocating for apple, they became google schill? 

 

 

Kawasaki works for Google (i.e., its Motorola subsidiary), that's what makes him a shill. And, quite frankly, he was always a bit of an embarrassment to Apple. He's a cheerleader, that's all. And, if you can actually quote the bit where I in any way implied that Wozniak was shilling for Google, please do. But, then, you know I didn't, you were simply misrepresenting what I said in a dishonest attempt at discrediting it. I've asked this question before, but why is it that you Android "supporters" always feel the need to resort to lies and misrepresentations?

 

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... They know blind fanboys like him would line up at 4 am on release day and buy the same rehashed product with an "S" at the end. ...

 

See, there you go again. The only significant sameness in the 'S' models to date has been the appearance of the exterior shell. The internals have typically, if we can make a generalization from two instances, been as or more different than releases of "new" phones from competitors in their entirety, where sometimes the most significant change is the exterior shell, or slapping a big screen on it to camouflage a big battery. But, you know all that, yet you chose to completely misrepresent the facts, to lie.

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post #157 of 189
3/14/13 at 8:27am

Right, took them one year to take the processor from the iPad and put it in the new iPhone. And also ship it with half baked Siri. Got it. That is really innovative. They were so busy innovating, they could not even update the look of a year old iphone. How about naming one thing that is unique to iOS that Android doesn't have. As far as I am concerned, I still can't select Chrome as my default browser on my iPAD 3 running the latest iOS. Even Android 2.3.6 had that feature. 

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3/14/13 at 8:36am
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So, are you a) claiming the Kindle Fire is an Android device, or b) simply trying to sow confusion to cover up the fact it isn't?

It does use Android as it's OS so yes it's a Android device, what it isn't is a Google device.
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3/14/13 at 8:47am
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Right, took them one year to take the processor from the iPad and put it in the new iPhone. And also ship it with half baked Siri. Got it. That is really innovative. They were so busy innovating, they could not even update the look of a year old iphone. How about naming one thing that is unique to iOS that Android doesn't have. As far as I am concerned, I still can't select Chrome as my default browser on my iPAD 3 running the latest iOS. Even Android 2.3.6 had that feature. 

 

Oh, big deal, changed your default browser, go you. I suppose if I went down a checklist of features for both systems, I could find a number that were unique, but, how about this one: all the phones Apple ships have the latest version of the operating system on them, not some version that could be 2-3 years old. Hey, even the 2-3 year old phones mostly have the latest version of the OS on them.

 

And there you go again about the "look". Yes, that's the important thing, does it "look" different? Now, go and spin your lies somewhere else, you sad little man.

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3/14/13 at 8:51am

How is having the latest OS even a feature if its a step back (apple maps)? if look isn't important why do apple fans always brag about "oh iphones look premium"? Couldn't come up with a single feature ios has that android doesn't have huh? Yea, its a pain in the ass to manually copy links from safari and pasting them on to chrome on my iPad. is it too much to ask to allow the users to set default apps (maps, browsers etc.)?

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