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Originally Posted by Mars123 View Post

That's a lame excuse for Apple not suing Google. Oracle sued Google for using Java in Android even though google doesn't profit from android. Apple knows they have absolutely no chance of beating Google in a court room. That's why they are suing a Korean company in a court 10 miles from their HQ with local Jury. If Android was stolen, SJ would have sued Google way back in 2009. Its crazy everyone on Apple sites claim "Google stole android" yet no one can show any concrete proof. 

 

Oracle has no option but to sue Google because their lawsuit involves operating system internals (SDKs).  There's no way they could sue Samsung or others over things in the Android development environment.

 

Apple, OTOH, is using hardware and user interface design patents -- things which are directly visible in the products made using Android.  So even though it could very well be that, technically, a user interface patent violation stems from something within Android itself (and not from what Samsung has added to it), a non-technical person would only see it as Samsung's product itself violating the patent.

 

So the proof is in the fact that a number of products built using Android have had user interface design patent cases filed against them.


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Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post

Only at AI do people believe Apple prevailed in that case.  In the outside world, the court records are sufficient evidence of what happened in the court.

 

The situation with Xerox v Apple is very much like Apple v Microsoft:  in both cases a license agreement nullified most claims, with the remainder dismissed under other factors, such as failing on an "originality basis":

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_v_microsoft#Court_case

 

Where exactly did I say that Apple prevailed in anything?  What I said is that, Apple actually gave Xerox _something_ for access to their labs.  Whereas Microsoft didn't give anything in exchange for the same privilege.

 

Did Apple get a great bargain?  No question.  Should Apple have patented the things they added to enhance the ideas they learned from Xerox so that they could effectively use them in the case against Microsoft?  Yes, but it's a moot point now.  Live and learn.

 
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post #163 of 183
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It does use Android as it's OS so yes it's a Android device, what it isn't is a Google device.

Once you fork an OS it's disingenuous to call by that former OS's name. You can say it's based on such-and-such OS, but saying it is that OS simply isn't true.

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Once you fork an OS it's disingenuous to call by that former OS's name. You can say it's based on such-and-such OS, but saying it is that OS simply isn't true.

Thanks that's a much better explanation than anonymouse.
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post #166 of 183
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Unless he clarifies what he means by that statement, I think we've come to the conclusion that it's just some number he pulled out of... Thin air.

So he can be an analyst now?
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I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.

Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job! See you later this morning after the Samsung dance numbers.


Is it me, or do some of these posters act like they're atheists shouting to convince christians not to be christians...and worse, shouting in a library, not in a christian church.  And the people in the library are like, "shut the f*** up!"

 

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I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.

Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job! See you later this morning after the Samsung dance numbers.

 

I laughed out loud.

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Originally Posted by igriv View Post

 

And with an iPhone, you need a phone plan, an Apple ID (with a credit card, so you can buy apps), a google account so you can read your mail, a Dropbox account so as to make a lot of the apps useful. What's the difference?

 

Why do you need a Google account?

 

Did you see Google are dumping open source CalDav support in favour of their own closed calendar API?

 

More of the usual hypocritical behaviour.

 

Now run along and drink your KoolAid and do a few more 'Google is not evil' chants.

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post #171 of 183
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If you don't want the free storage, you don't have to sign up. Note that in iOS you get NOTHING for free (I am paying $100 a year for iCloud storage, which is more expensive than dropbox and google drive (both of which I have), and worse than either one. For office docs SkyDrive is way better (and you get plenty of storage for free with Office 365).

 

I've got Skydrive and Dropbox and FREE iCloud, I've got iPhones and Android phones, where did the ridiculous idea come from that because you use one thing, you can't use another?

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post #172 of 183
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
"Android is often given [as] a free replacement for a feature phone and the experience isn't as good as an iPhone," he said.

 

So funny to see all the commotion that Schiller's interview created.

 

When Schiller speaks, people listen.  When Ballmer speaks, crickets chirp.

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post #173 of 183
I also like Schiller, but what he's saying here is nothing new, both Jobs and Cook said more or less the same thing on a number of occasions in the past. The timing is also bad I think, he should of taken the high ground, by not paying attention to the Samsung launch. Just gives the impression that Apple are worried (whether they are or not) by Samsung's success - this is a PR gift to the Korean conglomerate.
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Google isn't listed as an employer at either his Wikipedia page or at LinkedIn.

 

Citation needed.

It was really recent.

http://www.androidguys.com/2013/03/01/former-apple-guy-kawasaki-hired-to-advise-google-owned-motorola/

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post #176 of 183
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Originally Posted by eksodos View Post

Yeah I'd like to know what these nine accounts are you need on Android that iOS doesn't need. The only account you truly need is a Google one the same as iOS really.

I'm curious about that as well.

On my Asus Transformer I signed with my pre-existing Gmail account to get access to App Store. After that I had to create accounts for other email services I'm using, but I had to do all that on my iPhone too.

Can we ask Phil for citation? Tallest, you are good with that. Do us a honour.
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Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post

So funny to see all the commotion that Schiller's interview created.

When Schiller speaks, people listen.  When Ballmer speaks, crickets chirp.

Of course, that is not true.

We listen Balmer for a bit of comic relief.

We listen Shill for some cheap drama.

Honestly, Balmer is so much more fun.
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post #179 of 183
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Originally Posted by Techstalker View Post

Weird when I got my nexus 4.

All i needed to do was enter my password.
- Google already knew my email since I got it from the play store. Does apple do that.

All my music (with play music),
all my books (play books)
all my documents (google drive)
all my email (gmail),
all my apps (android apps),
all my movies and shows (play movies and shows),
all my magazines (play magazines)
all my maps (google maps)
all my videos (youtube)
booksmarks, searches, and tabs (chrome)
WERE WAITING FOR ME

Oh to top it all off opened google now, it had the schedule to my next class, how long it would take to get there, a buy ticket card for the movie trailer i watched on youtube, and a card to my buddy house for his birthday party the next day.

ALL of this was done with one password, i didnt even need to enter an email address.

This guy needs to shut up and lay off the crack pipe.

 

Wow, all these really make me want to try Samsung Galaxy.  Schiller should've just tell users to wait and see when iphone6 comes out (eh, maybe 5s will be out first, I don't think any wow will come with it.).  After all, consumers are the ones who make the final decision about which one to purchase.  (I still think Apple will follow its competitor to come out with a large screen phone, maybe the 6 or 6s.)

post #180 of 183
How can you take a powerful, well-connected and very wealthy person seriously who doesn't have the bugs on his own face fixed? Yes, it's partly a personal issue, but as he also represents Apple in a highly public way, it's a reflection of how bosses at Apple reason.
post #181 of 183
Originally Posted by kcartesius View Post
How can you take a powerful, well-connected and very wealthy person seriously who doesn't have the bugs on his own face fixed?

 

So his opinion is null and void because he has a wart?

I don't think it humanly possible to be any more vain. 1oyvey.gif

 

So you ignore Ballmer already because he's bald and Woz because he's fat. What about Cook? Schmidt? Whoever runs RIM these days?

post #182 of 183

Schiller seems out of touch. His reasons for switchers is milk toast. I bought an iPhone when it was first introduced. The reason is clear, I was an avid Apple fan. I "switched" to a Samsung Galaxy about two years ago. The most compelling thing about a Samsung on Android is when I plugged in the phone it was treated by the OS like a hard drive. I could open and browse every file on the phone on my desktop. That is huge to me. Copying files was a breeze. I don't care who you are, going through Itunes is a pain in the ass. Don't deny it or you would be lying. Every person I have talked with about it acknowledges it. 

 

I have switched back to the iphone 5 because I am developing an app for Iphone. It's impressive but I was quickly reminded of how I feel trapped in the iPhone world. 

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Originally Posted by DaveMontague View Post
I don't care who you are, going through Itunes is a pain in the ass.

 

The idea there is to get high technology into the hands of people who couldn't give a flying frick about directory trees, nor should they have to.


Don't deny it or you would be lying. 

 

I deny it. Quit trolling.

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