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Google to kill off Google Reader, Snapseed for Mac in continued service culling

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Google on Wednesday announced the continuation of its "spring cleaning" that began in 2011, with the latest services to fall under the hatchet being Google Reader and the desktop version of Snapseed, among others.

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In a post to the company's official blog, SVP Technical Infrastructure Urs H?lzle said that Reader's numbers have declined over the past few years, and Google will thus retire the service on July 1, 2013. Many users rely on Google Reader to aggregate the RSS feeds of their favorite websites, and there are a multitude of third-party apps already tightly integrated with the service.

According to Google, current users can export their data and subscriptions with Google Takeout over the next four months.

As for Snapseed, Google is immediately stopping sales and updates for the Mac and Windows desktop versions of the title, though existing customers can still download the software and will be offered continued support. The free Snapseed mobile apps for iOS and Android will live on.

The remaining Google services announced as reaching end-of-life:
  • Apps Script will be deprecating the GUI Builder and five UiApp widgets. GUI Builder will continue to be available until September 16.
  • CalDAV API will become available for whitelisted developers, and will be shut down for other developers on September 16.
  • Google Building Maker to retire on June 1.
  • Google Cloud Connect to retire on April 30.
  • Google Voice App for Blackberry ends service "next week."
  • Search API for Shopping to retire on on September 16.

Google's latest round of housecleaning has sparked some controversy within the online community, though the company feels it necessary to allocate resources where they are most needed.
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hmm


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Great--the Google service I use the most is now being killed off!

Apple: put RSS back in Safari, please, with iCloud synching.

A good reminder to use services that have an actual business model--even if they cost money. I won't be jumping on many future Google experiments to see whether they last or not. (Not if they do anything important to me.)
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Agreed about Reader but it's obvious that RSS is fading from importance.

I did start feeling antiquated for using it a few months ago. Guess it's time to look fir something else.
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FFS.

That is exactly the phrase that I thought when reading this. Apple dropped RSS support in Safari and Mail in Mountain Lion so I checked for RRS readers and the decent ones are all based around Google Reader. It's not Google's fault of course that 3rd parties are too lazy to use the RSS feeds directly but it sucks when the plug is pulled on stuff that works. Hopefully 3rd party readers will just implement RSS properly.
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it's obvious that RSS is fading from importance.

I don't think so but I do think there's an ulterior motive. With RSS, you can get your news articles concisely without adverts cluttering up the view. I browse hundreds of articles without seeing a single advert but visit the website they are on and I'm inundated with them. RSS feeds load faster too and there are notifications for updates.
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Agreed about Reader but it's obvious that RSS is fading from importance.

I did start feeling antiquated for using it a few months ago. Guess it's time to look fir something else.

 

I'd be just as happy to have a good RSS replacement as to have RSS. But what? If it's antiquated, what has replaced it?

 

What RSS does for me: aggregate news items from many sources into a single list, and keep track of which ones I have read across devices. FAR more efficient than just visiting all those sites. For me, it doesn't replace the article pages--I still click through to read the articles that interest me (ads and all). What it replaces is visiting a lot of HOME pages. List pages, in other words. RSS is a better way to get me to the content.

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Boo. This means one less reason for me to use a Google service. I hope NetNewsWire or some other program is updated to sync without Google Reader integration, possibly via iCloud or Dropbox.
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The main issue I have is that I used Google Reader for syncing my read RSS articles between Mac and iPhone. I hope Reeder will add iCloud syncing for this and that'll solve my problem.
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@nagromme

Yes but lets not forget that by killing it off Google benefits from all these ad impressions we now get to use.
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FFS. I still love Reader and use it extensively to follow my favorite blogs and sites. People said this was inevitably going to happen though. Sigh.


What am I going to import my export into? AFAIK all the popular RSS reading apps and services all piggyback on Reader these days.

You're right. Most do piggyback, I wonder if Google realizes that?
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I'd be just as happy to have a good RSS replacement as to have RSS. But what? If it's antiquated, what has replaced it?

What RSS does for me: aggregate news items from many sources into a single list, and keep track of which ones I have read across devices. FAR more efficient than just visiting all those sites. For me, it doesn't replace the article pages--I still click through to read the articles that interest me (ads and all). What it replaces is visiting a lot of HOME pages. List pages, in other words. RSS is a better way to get me to the content.

Twitter is quite useful in that regard. Most articles are tweeted before they even show up on RSS.
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Wow, this is going to cause a serious disruption in my daily news reading habit. I hope a decent alternative shows up soon, but I'm not too hopeful.

 

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I don't think so but I do think there's an ulterior motive. With RSS, you can get your news articles concisely without adverts cluttering up the view. I browse hundreds of articles without seeing a single advert but visit the website they are on and I'm inundated with them. RSS feeds load faster too and there are notifications for updates.

 

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@nagromme

Yes but lets not forget that by killing it off Google benefits from all these ad impressions we now get to use.

 

I agree that it's probably not just the falling numbers but the need to sell ads that is driving Google's decision here. It's sad that Google would drop any service they can't directly monetize through advertising, rather than allowing it to be another service that keeps people in their ecosystem.

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post #13 of 31

I recommend that Google next kill off Android and Plus. Stick to search and ads. It's the only thing they are much good at.  ;-)

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This is what happens when you trust a glorified AD COMPANY to provide a consistent and reliable User Experience. 

 

Google isn't built around pleasing the user. They are built around SELLING THE USER. 

 

Be warned. 

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The main issue I have is that I used Google Reader for syncing my read RSS articles between Mac and iPhone. I hope Reeder will add iCloud syncing for this and that'll solve my problem.

Reeder has announced on their twitter feed that Reeder users will be unaffected by the Google Reader shutdown. Presumably they are coming up with an alternative solution.

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Reeder has announced on their twitter feed that Reeder users will be unaffected by the Google Reader shutdown. Presumably they are coming up with an alternative solution.

 

I hope so. I have a lot of feeds that I read and I don't particularly want to start over. Hopefully they will do something where we can import our reader set up.

 

or someone make a reader app for Mac. Wonder how hard it would be to try to reverse engineer the lion version of Mail. 

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post #17 of 31
Have a look at http://Totally.Me if you are looking for a alternative for both Google Reader and iGoogle (shutting down on November 1). Totally.Me offers a visualized experience for all your Social Updates and News Headlines.
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Reeder has announced on their twitter feed that Reeder users will be unaffected by the Google Reader shutdown. Presumably they are coming up with an alternative solution.

I never bought Reeder bc it relied on Google.

It's always a bad business plan to rely on something another company gives away for free.

Glad that they have a plan B.


Bummer about Snapseed on Mac, but since it doesn't show Google ads, it's not worth their while to keep investing in it. Makes sense business wise.

These moves re-enforce the idea that Google only offers products that data mine in order to sell more ads.


Rant:

To paraphrase someone wiser than myself and I forget who originally said it, in reference to Facebook and Google.

It's sad/disturbing that some of the most brilliant minds of our generation are focused on finding ways to make us look at more ads.

My own:
Rather than looking to cure cancer, AIDS, etc... It pays more to work for data mining advertising companies.

These are the values off our society? Depressing
post #19 of 31
Funny. When I was looking for a RSS feeder program I got my ass kicked for not wanting to rely on Google Reader. Now I use Google Reader, and the RSS programs get useless.
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How ironic that I learnt this news by reading it via Google Reader! :-/ I've used it constantly as my home page for at least 4 years now. I wouldn't even know what it felt like to "surf around" directly on home pages these days. Really pissed off and need to find an alternative...
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I bought the Reeder app for iPhone and iPad, but was surprised that the app relies on 3rd party solutions, like Google Reader. Therefore never used it, but the app supposedly is a good one. Oh well, I check AI on a daily basis anyway. GR, who needs it?
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This is what happens when you trust a glorified AD COMPANY to provide a consistent and reliable User Experience. 

 

Google isn't built around pleasing the user. They are built around SELLING THE USER. 

 

Be warned. 

 

 

Comment by 'commie pinkofag' on another blog....

"The ethics of "free" are dubious at best.  Google is at its core a pimp and its users are its whores.  It gives us spandex miniskirts, drug store makeup, and the occasionally black eye, and in return, we give it everything."

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It's not Google's fault of course that 3rd parties are too lazy to use the RSS feeds directly but it sucks when the plug is pulled on stuff that works. Hopefully 3rd party readers will just implement RSS properly.

 

I think this is being soft on Google.  It'll always be more efficient for an RSS reader to sync with a single server source, and Google killed the business of any independents by offering theirs for free.  And only later, after they've destroyed businesses, do they start thinking about their own monetisation, rather than bankrolling from a separate search business.  Their model of providing services is destructive and in these instances only serve consumers in the short term.

 

Many (maybe most) consumers of RSS want the kind of sync services that a single aggregator provides, and probably also appeciate the flexibility of easily migrating data to a different client, so saying that 3rd party readers aren't being "lazy"doing it "properly" is misapportioning blame.

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I never bought Reeder bc it relied on Google.

It's always a bad business plan to rely on something another company gives away for free.

Glad that they have a plan B.


Bummer about Snapseed on Mac, but since it doesn't show Google ads, it's not worth their while to keep investing in it. Makes sense business wise.

These moves re-enforce the idea that Google only offers products that data mine in order to sell more ads.


Rant:

To paraphrase someone wiser than myself and I forget who originally said it, in reference to Facebook and Google.

It's sad/disturbing that some of the most brilliant minds of our generation are focused on finding ways to make us look at more ads.

My own:
Rather than looking to cure cancer, AIDS, etc... It pays more to work for data mining advertising companies.

These are the values off our society? Depressing

Yes it is depressing.
But that is what happens when accountants, MBA, bean counters, advertising execs and lawyers run amok in our society.
Scientists, the ones that actually make the discoveries, are marginlised.
Take IT, many, many years ago I had this misconception that IT stood for logic, hence my career change from Chemistry to programming. Initially I was happy, but as time went on I soon became aware that those in control did not want high quality software, they wanted it quick and cheap.
Forget about thinking head, the distance they could think ahead would be measured in nanometers.
To me google is everything that is wrong with technology, how can an advertising company be good at IT?
They simply buy companies, even their search is not their own.
It's just so sad, and what is more annoying is the ignorant, and the liars that support this glorified ad company.
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I have never used Google Reader, but is it something Yahoo Pipes could replace for you?
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.edit
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Rant:

To paraphrase someone wiser than myself and I forget who originally said it, in reference to Facebook and Google.

It's sad/disturbing that some of the most brilliant minds of our generation are focused on finding ways to make us look at more ads.

My own:
Rather than looking to cure cancer, AIDS, etc... It pays more to work for data mining advertising companies.

These are the values off our society? Depressing

Since you mentioned searching for a cancer cure, both Google and Facebook have been put to use:

http://gigaom.com/2013/03/01/can-a-mobile-game-help-find-the-cure-for-cancer-amazon-google-and-facebook-hope-so/

 

As for killing off reader at least Google has made it easy to move your current RSS feeds to a new service.

https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin?

 

 There's a pretty good list of options here:

http://www.teknobites.com/2013/03/14/google-reader-alternatives/


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post #27 of 31
With my web master hat on, I've lost track of all the things from dear old Google I have invested a lot of time and money in learning and using only for them to be discontinued. With the exception of YouTube and Maps I have given up with them and that is nothing to do with my feelings regarding Android. You simply can't trust the Beta Kings to finish anything and stick with it.
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With my web master hat on, I've lost track of all the things from dear old Google I have invested a lot of time and money in learning and using only for them to be discontinued. With the exception of YouTube and Maps I have given up with them and that is nothing to do with my feelings regarding Android. You simply can't trust the Beta Kings to finish anything and stick with it.

You've got a point. Google has swept a lot of cobwebs since they announced their "spring cleaning" in 2011. Apparently as many as 70 services according to Network World. 

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/031413-google-reader-axed-along-with-267694.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_am_2013-03-14

 

No doubt a lot of them had been replaced with newer options while others had simply outlived their usefulness. At the same time there's likely a few in there that had value and made your job easier, making it a pain in the *#%  to find substitutes for them.

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post #29 of 31

It's a shame that Google doesn't see much value in "loss leader" products (low-cost or free items that get people in the door). Is everything supposed to be social now? I dread the day they force-tie everything into G+.

 

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I have never used Google Reader, but is it something Yahoo Pipes could replace for you?

 

Go from a proverbial sinking ship to one that's been decaying on the ocean floor? Pass.

IMO, Yahoo! is the AOL of portals, the swampland of online ecosystems, and of course, the Flickr killer.

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post #30 of 31

I am surprised that Google has not been able to turn Reader into a moneymaker, because it really is a great service. Most folks will be frustrated by the death of Reader because there aren't any comparable alternatives. Sure, there are other feed compilers, but Reader is the best out there, especially for the price (free).

 

Hopefully this clears the way for others to step up and create something just as good...and preferably free. FWIW, I wouldn't mind ads, if it meant that I got a great service for free.

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On the advice of a friend, I moved to Feedly. It's currently based on the Google Reader API, but they say they will be ready to go by July 1st with a seamless transition to different API. So far, it looks great on my Google Chrome and iPhone. Also works on Firefox, Safari, and Android. http://blog.feedly.com/2013/03/14/google-reader/

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