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post #241 of 249

So in the light of all the evidence that has come to light about government intrusions into personal privacy and the deliberate targeting by the IRS of certain groups opposing the present administration - all of which is happening under Obama's watch - you cannot manage a simple "I don't agree with this" in any of the other threads?

 

You simply come in here to take shots at people who disagree with you about evolution? It's not like you were shy before about political discussions.

 

How do you think that looks when you stand up and advocate "following the evidence" and disparaging others for "believing fairy tales" in this thread?

 

Do you not see the credibility problem with this?

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post #242 of 249
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There really is no accounting for the thought process of people who look at the intricate design of the building blocks of life and claim that it all happened by chance.

 

This statement demonstrates that you have basically no understanding of evolution.  I recommend starting here: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_02

 

I'm amazed at your persistence. You are trying (yet again) to argue with someone who is using the complexity of life as evidence for a creator by asserting that it is ridiculous to suggest that it might have happened by random processes. Nothing to substantiate that position beyond incomprehension of timescales, chemistry, probability and statistics, and a robust, pig-headed rejection of all objective evidence. Disregarding the problem that this remarkable assertion simply removes the fundamental question by one level, incomprehension, posited as an argument, is both pointless and irrefutable, and its practitioners are rarely interested in moving beyond it. How are you not just totally discouraged by the mind-numbing lack of any ability or interest in deductive reasoning that pervades these outer reaches of the forums?

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You lie about science, and you lie about the IRS.  It was a conservative republican IRS agent who searched for the key words "tea party" and "patriot."  

 

Of course, are you harming the world by teaching your kids creationism?  That's the topic in this thread.  

 

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I'm amazed at your persistence. You are trying (yet again) to argue with someone who is using the complexity of life as evidence for a creator by asserting that it is ridiculous to suggest that it might have happened by random processes. Nothing to substantiate that position beyond incomprehension of timescales, chemistry, probability and statistics, and a robust, pig-headed rejection of all objective evidence. Disregarding the problem that this remarkable assertion simply removes the fundamental question by one level, incomprehension, posited as an argument, is both pointless and irrefutable, and its practitioners are rarely interested in moving beyond it. How are you not just totally discouraged by the mind-numbing lack of any ability or interest in deductive reasoning that pervades these outer reaches of the forums?

 

If this thread was about Creationism vs. Evolution, could someone tell the original poster?

 

Because the original post doesn't mention either topic.

It references Climate Change/Global Warming.

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post #244 of 249

Evolution didn't really show up in an argument until page 4.

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I'm amazed at your persistence. You are trying (yet again) to argue with someone who is using the complexity of life as evidence for a creator by asserting that it is ridiculous to suggest that it might have happened by random processes. Nothing to substantiate that position beyond incomprehension of timescales, chemistry, probability and statistics, and a robust, pig-headed rejection of all objective evidence. Disregarding the problem that this remarkable assertion simply removes the fundamental question by one level, incomprehension, posited as an argument, is both pointless and irrefutable, and its practitioners are rarely interested in moving beyond it. How are you not just totally discouraged by the mind-numbing lack of any ability or interest in deductive reasoning that pervades these outer reaches of the forums?

 

There's been years of brainwashing and some deliberate ignorance, but I don't believe anyone is a lost cause.  Even Frank has the capacity to open his eyes to the real world around him.  The seeds of doubt can still take root.  Someone has to sow them.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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You lie about science, and you lie about the IRS.  It was a conservative republican IRS agent who searched for the key words "tea party" and "patriot." 

 

Oh dear, the IRS Inspector General has now confirmed a political bias was at work. Who's lying now?

 

If you're willing to casually toss aside evidence that disagrees with your worldview on an issue, can you really say you believe in science?

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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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post #248 of 249

Frank, it is rather amusing how un-scientific BR (et al) is on that subject and how he keeps trying to outright avoid it.

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post #249 of 249
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If he wants a response, he can post in the appropriate thread.  If he wants to be a dick and play games, he can keep doing it here.  We'll see where he posts next and what his true motivation is.

 

Edit:  I suppose we'll see yours, too.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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