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Samsung on Thursday revealed its latest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy S4, with features like photos with sound from a 13MP rear-facing camera, language translation, group media streaming, infrared gesture control and more.

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With the newest Galaxy S4 debut, Samsung spared no expense as it introduced the device on stage at Radio City Music Hall in New York, complete with live orchestra and an incredibly polished scripted presentation.

One of the few major hardware features Samsung introduced was the S4's cameras. A dual-camera mode can capture images from both the 13MP rear-facing and 2MP front-facing cameras, allowing the photographer to be in the video or photograph. Users can also add audio to still photos, along with other advanced software functions.

The 5-inch, 441 pixel-per-inch Super AMOLED display on the S4 includes "Air Gesture" capabilities that allows users to interact with the screen without actually touching it.

Rounding out the new component set is a plastic body measuring 5.3 inches long by 2.7 inches wide and 7.9mm thick. The S4 runs Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean on a 1.9GHz quad-core or 1.6GHz octa-core processor and comes with 16GB of storage standard, with options for 32GB or 64GB, while all models come with a MicroSD slot. Powering the device is a 2,600mAh battery.

Overall, it seems that Samsung is banking on software improvements and innovations to drive sales, as hardware enhancements were largely iterative.

Media coverage of the event has been unusually high for a Samsung product debut, possibly due to pundits sounding off on a "doom and gloom" scenario for Apple, the Korean company's biggest rival in the smartphone space. Whatever the reason, the tech giant was able to drum up a substantial amount of attention. The company's YouTube live Webcast of the S4 unveiling hit over 430,000 viewers when the device was finally unveiled.

It was reported on Wednesday that Samsung has substantially boosted its U.S. advertising budget for the company's mobile phone lineup, spending in excess of $401 million during 2012, up from $78 million the year prior. The Korean firm managed to outspend Apple, which consistently generates media buzz when it announces a new product.

The battle for smartphone supremacy has become a two horse race between Apple and Samsung. According to a recent report from research firm Canalys, the two companies accounted for a respective 22.1 percent and 29 percent of all global handset shipments for the fourth quarter of 2012. It should be noted that the estimates are based on shipments, not sales.

On a device by device level, impressions across Chitika's ad network in North America found Apple's iPhone 5 and Samsung's Galaxy S III to be in a dead heat during the first nine days of February. A broader look at the data showed all Samsung smartphones to account for 20.6 percent of the market, while all iPhone models took a 41.5 percent share. Overall, Apple's marketshare dropped 4.5 percent since the last Chitika study as Samsung's grew by 3.6 percent.

As for the new Galaxy S4, the handset will no doubt be compared to Apple's own flagship iPhone 5, which debuted six months ago in September 2012.
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Well no, the iPhone5 is set against the SIII.

Apple needs to step up!
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Well no, the iPhone5 is set against the SIII.

Apple needs to step up!

 

S4 is against Z10 not ip5

 

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Interesting, but I think the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z both have it beat....  

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No rational person can find a reason to buy this phone. I defy someone to challenge this observation/fact.

It loses on every metric to HTC, Sony and of course the best phone still is the iPhone 5.

 

obs: It's so cheap looking and ugly.

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I wonder does the display have the hexagonal pixels that Samsung were rumoured to be trying in order to achieve such a high pixel density?
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Thus continuing AppleInsider's round-the-clock coverage of all things Samsung. Stay tuned for all your Samsung news. /s

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I have no desire for Samsung phones. I don't want something that big for a phone. Apple needs to use some of that 137 billion and blow Samsung out the window.

I don't like Android either. What product outside of search and maps has Google done well? Nothing that I want or use.
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...and Apple sues Samsung for using the term "4S" backwards.

 

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Easy for Apple to beat this:
Give us an infra red emitter and detected, with a barometer, temp gauge and humidity detector, and maybe an extra earphone/input/output port too, and watch the App market get even bigger when App designers turn it into a Tricorder. Give them the tools and the App designers will finish the job. If they can fit all these sensors into a Casio watch, they can go into an iPhone 6 and Samsung can't compete.
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No rational person can find a reason to buy this phone. I defy someone to challenge this observation/fact.

It loses on every metric to HTC, Sony and of course the best phone still is the iPhone 5.

 

obs: It's so cheap looking and ugly.


I challenge your observation.  I think they will sell a lot of them.

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Easy for Apple to beat this:
Give us an infra red emitter and detected, with a barometer, temp gauge and humidity detector, and maybe an extra earphone/input/output port too, and watch the App market get even bigger when App designers turn it into a Tricorder. Give them the tools and the App designers will finish the job. If they can fit all these sensors into a Casio watch, they can go into an iPhone 6 and Samsung can't compete.
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1) no price was mentioned?
2) no battery life mentioned?
3) terrible acting?
4) does it wipe my ******?
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I have no desire for Samsung phones. I don't want something that big for a phone. Apple needs to use some of that 137 billion and blow Samsung out the window.

I don't like Android either. What product outside of search and maps has Google done well? Nothing that I want or use.

 

Google Docs are nice, Google Now, Chrome is a decent browser, Google Earth is fun and somewhat handy, and while Google didn't create YouTube, it does belong to them now.  

 

And whether or not you like Android it's fairly popular, and depending on who's implementing it can be pretty decent...

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I challenge your observation.  I think they will sell a lot of them.

Based on what? Fanboyism? Of course they will sell, but only for those that can't think for themselves and are easily influenced by ads.

 

A few Android phones already beat the S4 on every metric, and the iPhone still is the best phone available when all things are considered.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324392804578360674154361886.html WSJ

 

"But while many of the functions are useful or innovative, a few of them didn't seem ready for prime time in a preview with journalists."

 

It's just about gimmicks and stupid people.

 

 

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I watched the samsung unpacked live broadcast and I like the hardware specs of the s4 but the software features are too complicated. It has a ton of photo options that to me seems confusing and hard to use and also has other features like the eye scroll thing and pause feature that could give people headaches. I don't like the idea that everything that moves forward in technology is necessarily better. The iphone 5 is still the better overall phone, its very simple, and easy to use and doesnt complicate users like the s4 will. I just hope Apple doesnt go down this same path of adding a bunch of software features that nobody will use. Also the Apple keynotes are still the best to watch, the samsung unpacked event was complicated by dancers, singers, musicians and so on, while the Apple keynotes are simple, with one speaker at a time and just very easy to follow.

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Based on what? Fanboyism? Of course they will sell, but only for those that can't think for themselves and are easily influenced by ads.

 

A few Android phones already beat the S4 on every metric, and the iPhone still is the best phone available when all things are considered.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324392804578360674154361886.html WSJ

 

"But while many of the functions are useful or innovative, a few of them didn't seem ready for prime time in a preview with journalists."

 

It's just about gimmicks and stupid people.

 

Yup.  If consumers were more sophisticated shoppers, HTC and Sony would be doing much better than they are now...  

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"Life companion" is a very weird tagline. Also, a live orchestra?

People have been giving Samsung too much credit for being "cool", because none of that is remotely cool.

They're going to get crushed if Apple comes out with a larger form-factor iphone. 

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Interesting, but I think the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z both have it beat....  

 

Ho hum Samsung made some minor tweaks to the S2 and SIII and played catch up to the already available Sony Xperia Z.

 

I expect to sell boatloads of these to glassy eyed buyers bedazzled by the hype.

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Do phones have to be so big? If Samsung just want to target men that's fine! At this rate one will have to start using jacket pockets. Apple shouldn't need to be worried. My laptop is a quad and it does plenty full - why do I need this octo processor? It is so American! It is like having a McLaren and I am just driving a mile away!
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Ho hum Samsung made some minor tweaks to the S2 and SIII and played catch up to the already available Sony Xperia Z.

 

I expect to sell boatloads of these to glassy eyed buyers bedazzled by the hype.

Exactly, and it ends up being frustrating because even here we have those sort of trolls polluting any attempt to have a decent conversation/discussion.

I mean, lots of people are buying the iPhone without knowing what they are doing, and that's stupid. However, every single person that bough a galaxy s3 made a stupid decision, no matter how you look at it (as long as you use common sense and facts) and the same can be applied to this model.

 

They will probably outsell the iPhone, and they will spell doom for Apple. I seriously hope that that happens. Then, I can come here to learn and talk about products, with people that want the same (discuss, learn).

I mean, isn't 13 billions (or a 1/10th of that) enough?

 

It's like discussing football, so much stupidity.

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Air gestures is interesting. Apart from that it looks like a decent incremental upgrade in the large screen phone category mixed with some software gimmickry and marketing speak. Certainly it will make the number conscious feel superior, "It has 8 cores!"

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This is a rant.

 

I waste an hour an a half of this crap Samsung call a press conference or keynot.  They just doesn't have something really innovated to show so they fill out the keynote with weird, awful, awkward, and cringe worthy moment.  It safe to said that Apple keynote is all about showing what their product and informing what the products can do without a whole of useless crap.  The most cringe worthy moment is when they were expecting this big standing applause with every feature they announce.  And that was brutal when no one clap at the end of the keynote when the MC try to force the crowd to do it. 

 

Samsung keynote:

-Weird

-Awkward

-Awful

-Annoying

-Cringe Worthy

-Offensive - Sexist and cockiness in their keynote.

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I watched the samsung unpacked live broadcast and I like the hardware specs of the s4 but the software features are too complicated. It has a ton of photo options that to me seems confusing and hard to use and also has other features like the eye scroll thing and pause feature that could give people headaches. I don't like the idea that everything that moves forward in technology is necessarily better. The iphone 5 is still the better overall phone, its very simple, and easy to use and doesnt complicate users like the s4 will. I just hope Apple doesnt go down this same path of adding a bunch of software features that nobody will use. Also the Apple keynotes are still the best to watch, the samsung unpacked event was complicated by dancers, singers, musicians and so on, while the Apple keynotes are simple, with one speaker at a time and just very easy to follow.

 

They need the eye control stuff because that sized phone will be almost impossible to use one handed without it.

 

When are they going to come up with some innovation, instead of some minor tweaks to what's already out there?

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Google Docs are nice, Google Now, Chrome is a decent browser, Google Earth is fun and somewhat handy, and while Google didn't create YouTube, it does belong to them now.  

Sure - if you don't mind google having access to every element of your private and business life. Personally, I am not interested in letting them read all my documents. If I wanted them to, I'd just mail them the password to my computer and open a port in the firewall for them.



No one has yet mentioned that Schiller was wrong about the OS version. It runs 4.2 - which is only 4-5 months old, not a year. It doesn't really matter much, though. The point he was making is valid.

Very few Android phones ever have OS updates available - which is why the majority of Android phones are still running ancient versions. So even if this phone comes with the latest version (which is already 5 months old), by the time the phone is 2 years old, it will be running a 2.5 year old OS. Updates are routinely available for iPhones for years - so that's not the case with iPhones. So people who buy this phone are likely to be using it for most of its life without even the most basic security updates.
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Do phones have to be so big? If Samsung just want to target men that's fine! At this rate one will have to start using jacket pockets. Apple shouldn't need to be worried. My laptop is a quad and it does plenty full - why do I need this octo processor? It is so American! It is like having a McLaren and I am just driving a mile away!

You realize that comparing dual to quad to octa is retarded, don't you? What the hell are you talking about? It's the same architecture? Same generation? Are they powering the same OS?

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Do phones have to be so big? If Samsung just want to target men that's fine! At this rate one will have to start using jacket pockets. Apple shouldn't need to be worried. My laptop is a quad and it does plenty full - why do I need this octo processor? It is so American! It is like having a McLaren and I am just driving a mile away!

You're missing the point. They NEED 4-8 cores because Android is such a kludge and the UI is so choppy. It's really nothing to brag about. "Our OS is so bad that we had to double the number of cores, drastically decreasing battery life, in order to make it usable".

OTOH, maybe that explains the size. They aren't really interested in the screen size, but they needed such a huge battery to power the processor that they figured they might as well put in a big screen since the phone was massive, anyway.
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Hmmmm. . . So perhaps Samsung Galaxy 3S would have been more appropriate.

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Air gestures is interesting. Apart from that it looks like a decent incremental upgrade in the large screen phone category mixed with some software gimmickry and marketing speak. Certainly it will make the number conscious feel superior, "It has 8 cores!"

 

Air gestures are already available on the note 2, a little blue dot that appears under a hovering stylus tip.

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I'm guessing the irony of that opening eludes you.


...except, it turns out, user satisfaction:

iPhone 5 ranks 5th in user satisfaction in U.S. behind four Android phones



http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-5-ranks-5th-in-user-satisfaction-in-u-s-behind-four-android-phones/

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The silver lining for Apple should be that if one combines the full rankings – which includes data from the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Japan, and Indonesia – and looks at overall device satisfaction, the Cupertino company is still the cream of the crop. As a company, Apple finished first across the entire survey,
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Well no, the iPhone5 is set against the SIII.

Apple needs to step up!

This looks like they should have called it the Note III.  It's a 5 inch screen.  This is phablet class.

 

Yeah, I agree Apple needs to step it up, but I don't know if 5 inch phones are going to sell well.  They only sold around 10 to 15 million 5 inch phones so far that I'm aware of.

 

As far as Air Gesture is concerned.  I think that is one of those "great demo" but DUMB for normal use category features.

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Does it come with a man purse?  

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Talking about Android fragmentation.
Samsung S4 is itself fragmented as it can be quadric or octo core.
Cool for developers.
And for buyers by the way...
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Of. Interest to me:

  • translation voice and text
  • OCR  camera capture
  • Siri like PDA functions with no web
  • Maps/navigation with no web
  • Home Server

 

What infrastructure will Sammy use to support all the media and sync services?

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You realize that comparing dual to quad to octa is retarded, don't you? What the hell are you talking about? It's the same architecture? Same generation? Are they powering the same OS?

 

What are you talking about?

 

The quad core Galaxy S4 or the octa core Galaxy S4?

 

Who gets which version?

 

How should developers approach the same phone having different processors?

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I'm guessing the irony of that opening eludes you.

 

 

...except, it turns out, user satisfaction:

 

iPhone 5 ranks 5th in user satisfaction in U.S. behind four Android phones

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-5-ranks-5th-in-user-satisfaction-in-u-s-behind-four-android-phones/

 

Then again those 4 others are not market leaders in sales and or profits, but are targeted and lower price smartphones.

 

This event just gave Apple a huge opportunity with its upcoming line of iPhone, iPad and iPad Mini to put their boot on Samsung and Android.

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The basic smartphone is approaching paradigm maturity. There is little in the way either side can make in the way of substantive improvement. From now on its just silly little frills and gimmicks trotted out to "prove" that our phone is "better" than yours. That, and quality of materials and fit-and-finish are the only distinguishing factors. The latter, along with its ecosystem continue to give the iPhone a slight edge overall. 

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Sure - if you don't mind google having access to every element of your private and business life. Personally, I am not interested in letting them read all my documents. If I wanted them to, I'd just mail them the password to my computer and open a port in the firewall for them.
 

 

For information I want to keep private, I use LibreOffice and have everything hosted on an OwnCloud instance on my home server.  And I don't store anything ultra-sensitive on any cloud service, only on local storage (and encrypted, with physical backup).  

 

Furthermore, Google is pretty decent about privacy.  Their policies are on par with Apple, MS, and better than Facebook...  (for those who actually read the terms of use)  If you're concerned about privacy, having your information on any 3rd party storage is risky - not simply because they might scan it and read it, but because it's possible they could get hacked, lose data, etc...

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