None. Patentable and/or patented perhaps. And by whom
Perhaps time to do that legal section. Or race ourselves for folks complaining about all the law suit artiles


The Age of the OS is link to the Kernel they are using. They do major updates when they change kernels. Apple does minor updates throughout the year even adding features but the last major update was in October 2012 adding hundreds of new features. The point is the Apple's assessment of the Age of the Android is correct. Their API is just an internal note. The number of features and Kernel level changes defines how new the OS is. 4.1 was release July 13, 2012 Thats 9 months after 4.0 not weeks later. 4.2 was released November 13, 2012 and was so limited they didn't even have a conference for it just a press release calling it another flavor of Jelly Been. And for the record Mountain Lion was previewed then, it was release July 25, 2012 and introduced the new iMac a couple of months later. Not a year and a half after the last major update. Even the iPad is different because it's OS is compatible but different. iPad's move to Fall may have been to synchronize the OS timing. If Apple tried to pass off these weak point updates as a New OS it they would be crucified. Google does it and its ok.
If you look the list of new features, App added more with the latest point update. They are not the same thing. No matter how much you try to make a minor update a new OS its not. They even refer to it just another flavor.
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They are just stupid then. One has nothing to do with the other. I guess you say there are no cyber criminals trying to access your banking info. Having a phone that is worse secure than Windows ever was is not good, because most people actually do online banking now when it was rare during the XP days. I try to avoid Google at all cost because I even noticed that if you search for something obscure through them, you will start getting emails about that subject. I don't use Gmail so I find that unsettling that they are tracking me close enough to know my email address to share with their advertisers.
Then your doing something wrong, I have had zero spam mail since I opened up a Google Gmail account 12 years ago. As far as Google tracking your Internet habits, well the Internet is and will never be a private place. I'm more worried about the US and it's allies using programs like Echelon to track us more then Google. I personally have nothing to hide as the sites I surf are very PG. So if your bothered maybe you should rethink your porn tastes. Most banks, at least in Europe now have dedicated apps to log on and retrieve ones account info, add that key-chain device that generates a random 8-digit access code and it's pretty secure.
I recently soled my Samsung Note to purchase a Nexus 4, if your going to use Android there is no better way to experience the OS then by using a Google phone and the updates are very frequent. I'm actually really looking forward to Ubuntu's new mobile OS though, it's the first time in a long while since I've been actually excited about a new OS. The ability to plug your phone into a dock connected to a monitor or hotel flatscreen and be able to use a full desktop OS has always been a dream of mine.
I've had a couple of iPhones and for the most part they were decent phones, never liked how fragile or small the screen was but all in all okay phones. However in the last two years I have become addicted to some of the features Android has and have no desire to use an iPhone again. The filemanager FX for instance allows me to always have access to my data from both my work and home server, not to mention all of my cloud storage accessible from one place. Android also has the ability to make the phone itself a wifi drive accessible from any computer. Some of you might argue that sand-boxing is great for security but I find it to be a huge hindrance, I really, really enjoy how Androids apps talk to each other. That and I prefer seeing all of my files in one area, makes it easier to find data instead of opening the app that made it or using a MP3 app.
Somebody above mentioned that Android 4.2.2 was just a minor incremental update, though I could argue otherwise I'm jut going to say that the new multi-user feature is fantastic. My husband and I bought our two kids each a Nexus 10 but we like to steal them on occasion, so the ability to separate our profiles is a really convenient feature.
Okay so at first glance I would have to say...nice, but nothing amazing. The "wave" feature seems particularly stupid and I can see competitors poking fun at that easily with people doing all kinds of stupid things to get the screen to change, but maybe I'm missing something.
The tilt feature seems nice particularly with a bigger screen device, but I could also see it being aggravating depending on how sensitive it is.
The smart pause feature seems like it could be annoying. Often times people glance away from a video while watching it because we can process so much information. If it stops every time you look away...well, I'm not sure that is necessarily a benefit and what if you are "watching" just for the commentary? Sure it can be turned off and on, but is that really a feature you will want to be messing around with? Probably set it to off and never use it again.
Camera and features seem fantastic and given how reliant people are on their phone for those types of activities that's a big plus. The "TV correspondent" thing will be a lot of fun if you are into making videos.
Also using it as a remote would be cool. I often misplace my remote, but never my phone.
I know there are other upgrades and it's not like Apple has introduced anything that exciting over the last couple of years, but all in all it just doesnt seem that exciting. I would say some of the upgrades while not particularly useful at least speak to attempts to make the product more interesting and unique.
Then you should do yourself a favor and stay away from product announcements in general. They tend to be very cheesy and unpleasant to sit threw.
Uh, no, Samsung sets a new standard in presentation idiodicy and absurdity. Go back and read impressions, on any website, from the S3 presentations. All bloggers said it was pretty much the weirdest, most confusing, and most random presentation they've ever seen. It has absolutely nothing in common with an Apple presentation, for example, which tends to be very clear, serious, to the point, and gimmick free.

Uh, no, Samsung sets a new standard in presentation idiodicy and absurdity. Go back and read impressions, on any website, from the S3 presentations. All bloggers said it was pretty much the weirdest, most confusing, and most random presentation they've ever seen. It has absolutely nothing in common with an Apple presentation, for example, which tends to be very clear, serious, to the point, and gimmick free.
You should visit Japan during a computer trade show, wow, talk about out there.

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No, it uses a mini USB port which I find much better. You always have a few of those around the house.

Uh, no, Samsung sets a new standard in presentation idiodicy and absurdity. Go back and read impressions, on any website, from the S3 presentations. All bloggers said it was pretty much the weirdest, most confusing, and most random presentation they've ever seen. It has absolutely nothing in common with an Apple presentation, for example, which tends to be very clear, serious, to the point, and gimmick free.
In general, Japanese and Korean presentations and shows tend to be wacky... What do you expect from the country that brought us Psy?
Yes... because everyday I get a bunch of mails (in GMail) from companies that I have not subscribed to. What more proof you need?
this is a reply to the question.... Do you have a proof that Google sold your email to advertisers?
somehow im not able to reply properly in AppleInsider... whats wrong?

Google has been caught and paid fines for snooping on iOS, capturing all unencrypted RF signals while driving by for street view [that's the latest WIFI bust] and people are asking whether or not Google indexing your IMAP Gmail accounts and all your inter-Google ecosystem points of access?
We have a lot of morons on AI to think they don't. Their algorithms for machine learning and AI are tailored and pilot tested doing just that. You get free services and they get to pour through your content.
I think the introduction of a device that's likely to sell millions of units, many of which might be lost iPhone sales, in a market Apple created and outright owned until recently *IS* Apple news. News about where Apple is losing ground is just as important as where they're gaining.
I prefer my nokia 8210 phone, but having recently bought an ipod touch which is the same size as the iphone I was amused to watch someone yesterday on the bus with a big ass samsung phone as they gingerly balanced it in one hand not being able to grip it properly, with their thumb looking like it was going to cramp any minute. Looked pretty silly.


Based on what? Fanboyism? Of course they will sell, but only for those that can't think for themselves and are easily influenced by ads.
A few Android phones already beat the S4 on every metric, and the iPhone still is the best phone available when all things are considered.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324392804578360674154361886.html WSJ
"But while many of the functions are useful or innovative, a few of them didn't seem ready for prime time in a preview with journalists."
It's just about gimmicks and stupid people.
Yup. If consumers were more sophisticated shoppers, HTC and Sony would be doing much better than they are now...
But Sony has the worst track record in the world when it comes to OS updates. I wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole.


The processor Samsung is using incorporates ARM's big.LITTLE tech, in that it has four A15 cores and four A7 cores. Does this mean you don't think ARM are correct in the power saving potential they claim?

I see AI's Mr Angry is in full flow today.
How does anything you wrote prove that Google sold an email address? If, as you state, its so simple, surely even you can see that no email address was sold in your scenario. If you can't see that, may I suggest you walk away from the internet.
I'm not even going to bother to try and explain how Google ads work because you know full well how they work and that what you're writing is BS. Its been explained many times to you and others so stop spouting nonsense.

5 out of 12 of their most popular phones got updates in their lifetime.
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Keep in mind what they are calling an update Apple does several times throughout the year. They are point updates. The major updates like Apple does every year are rarely extended to the older phones.
(Incorrect)
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/
I'm going to assume you accidentally misquoted the article you linked.
EVERY Samsung handset in their survey, not just 5, received at least one full-version upgrade. 5 of the 12 had received two full updates thru Dec of last year.
Your linked article:
"Samsung as a whole works harder at keeping its phones current. Five of the 12 phones we studied received two updates during their lifetimes (and some, like the Galaxy S III, are not new enough for a second update to be on the table yet)."
Also counter to what you wrote, Ars did not include the minor updates/bugfixes like Apple does a couple times a year between upgrades.
Your linked article:
"Note that we define "update" as a major point release of Android—2.2 Froyo, 2.3 Gingerbread, 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. More minor updates or firmware releases are not accounted for here."
You should read more carefully before posting to avoid misinforming other readers.
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Your ISP tracks you and knows your email addy. Your phones service provider tracks you and know your email addy. Your home network provider tracks you and knows your email addy. Even AI tracks you and knows your email addy. Yet if you get an email from someone spamming you on something you discussed or searched you're convinced it had to come from Google, the only one of those five who's business interest would not be served by selling user data. Makes sense to me
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This looks like they should have called it the Note III. It's a 5 inch screen. This is phablet class.
Yeah, I agree Apple needs to step it up, but I don't know if 5 inch phones are going to sell well. They only sold around 10 to 15 million 5 inch phones so far that I'm aware of.
I believe the phone is almost the exact same size. Height is the same. It might be .03 wider.
The screen is just larger.


... to help companies like General Motors, Toyota, AT&T, Apple, HP, Nest, and millions of small business more effectively use their advertising dollars, and making a few dollars for themselves too in the process. Plainly evil isn't it? Seeing an ad can be scary.
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012
I have long suspected this is true but it also seems this would make some tech journalist famous if he/she were able to prove it and tie it to Google or Samsung. Of the big so-called Apple centric sites I visit on a regular basis (AppleInsider, MacNN, MacRumors, MacWorld, for example) it seems the Samsung/Android fans outnumber the Apple/iOS fans at times. Is this phenomenon a result of insecurity issues or a coordinated effort?
So if there are shills out there, paid to join sites like AppleInsider and spread FUD, why haven't we seen any investigative reports about it? It would seem that something like that couldn't be kept quiet for very long. Also, if the company doing it got caught red handed it would be a major blow to their credibility and reputation. Is attacking Apple worth that kind of risk?
A lot of people here have no idea how advertising works, including the advertising here at AI.
For example: of all the people who claim Google is Satan and they refuse to have anything to do with sites that use it, how many realize that AppleInsider's income is in part dependent on Google Ad Services, and this site willfully subjects all of its visitors to the sort of "tracking" that its editorial content attempts to deride?
Look at the JavaScript includes here and consider:
Will you stop using AI, or admit that you really don't have a problem with Google at all and are just mindlessly parroting a local cultural meme?

So if there are shills out there, paid to join sites like AppleInsider and spread FUD, why haven't we seen any investigative reports about it? It would seem that something like that couldn't be kept quiet for very long. Also, if the company doing it got caught red handed it would be a major blow to their credibility and reputation. Is attacking Apple worth that kind of risk?
It's been pointed out long ago that the outside world doesn't consider the posts in this forum nearly as important as jragosta and others here imagine themselves to be.
In fact, since AI makes its money selling its visitors' eyeballs to advertisers (including Google Ad Services), the only company in the world which could hope to benefit from the additional page views derived from trolling would be AI themselves.
So logically, if there are any paid trolls here at all the most sensible explanation for that is that AI is paying them.