Samsung's Galaxy S4 distracts attention away from Android - Page 2

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Originally Posted by anonymouse 

 

Samsung could fork Android, and Google wouldn't have much choice but to put their apps on it, since that's the only game Google has. On the other hand, not forking Android allows Samsung to take advantage of Google as a free software development service. That's also, obviously, the advantage of Android ovr Tizen for them. And, if there's anything Samsung likes, it's having someone else do the heavy lifting for them.

 

What Samsung is more likely to do, especially as they continue to crush the Android competition, is use their position as the only Android game in town, and on the strength of their Galaxy brand, to dictate to Google what constitutes "Android". In effect, Google will end up losing control of Android and the OHA, and there's not much they can do about it. The one thing they could do is dump Android and try to replace it with Chrome or something else. Interesting that Andy Rubin just left the Android division.

If Google pulls the Map from Android, the platform will collapse immediately.  It can replace it with a new one if they choose to do so.  

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider 

Instead, the company appears to have created its own apps and services to distract away from Android...

...only in the mind of Desperate Digler.   His headlines are so stilted you can accurately guess the byline at first glance.

NEWS FLASH:  The iOS app store has more than 650,000 apps, which can only be interpreted at 650,000 features missing from iOS.

Oh....wait...

I forgot this was DoubleStandardLand.

Carry on....

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Originally Posted by MacRulez 

...only in the mind of Desperate Digler.   His headlines are so stilted you can accurately guess the byline at first glance.

 

NEWS FLASH:  The iOS app store has more than 650,000 apps, which can only be interpreted at 650,000 features missing from iOS.

 

Oh....wait...

 

I forgot this was DoubleStandardLand.

 

Carry on....

Still on with your useless trolling? Android has as many Apps, so I guess that means those are features missing in Android?

I like the IR blaster feature.  It would be really nice if the phone could be used as a universal remote.   It would beat the Logitech Harmony series of remotes that I've used in the past.

• Background Processes are managed by an strict API guidelines and managed through admission to the App Store to prevent errant applications;
• Integrated SSL, TLS and VPN support including automatic encryption for default apps such as Calendar, Mail and Safari;
• No Multiple Abstraction Layers, i.e. Dalvik Virtual Machine on Linux kernel with every abstraction layer providing potential vulnerabilities;
• Fewer Ports offer fewer potential vulnerabilities especially SD cards; and
• Software Updates are managed exclusively by Apple allowing security updates to be developed and deployed rapidly
• No Confusing app Privacy and Security Management

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Originally Posted by jungmark 

Google must be so happy. Soon Sammy will remove Google services and Google wont make any money. That's what you get for copying and giving away your software.

Delusional fantasy / wishful thinking.

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Originally Posted by rsdofny 

If Google pulls the Map from Android, the platform will collapse immediately.

How does that help Google? As an ad company, Google has to be on every platform they can. They don't really have any leverage at this point, and any they think they have is imaginary.

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Originally Posted by jragosta 

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Originally Posted by KPOM 

Samsung went to great lengths to tell the WSJ in an interview that there is no "friction" with Google. Which, of course, means that there is plenty of friction. Google has lost control of Android. Amazon does its own thing, and now so does Samsung. Samsung is the only OEM making any serious money from Android. They should know more than anyone else that it is dangerous to become dependent on a single manufacturer. There's a reason they are pushing their own software solutions. At some point, they want to take everything in house.

Exactly. I especially like the "Safe for work" graphic - where most of the 'safe' products are from Apple with one Samsung phone while all the other Android products are 'unsafe'. Doesn't sound like a friction-free relationship between Samsung and Google.

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Originally Posted by ClaudiusMaximus 

Do you even know what having more megapixels does? I sold cameras for about 5 years and have been an amateur photographer for about 10.

The more megapixels you have, the larger the photo you can print. for the average person who takes a pic and uploads it to Instagram or Facebook, the most you'd need is 4mp.

Now if you were looking to do high res printing, then by all means please tout all you want about the fact that it's 13mp.

That's all true. However, you forgot to mention the tradeoff if you're not printing large pictures - each pixel is much smaller which means less light capturing ability. So under many conditions, the picture from the 4 MP camera can be better than the picture from the 13 MP camera.

It's also worth noting that the lens has an impact. It's very difficult to pack a lens capable of giving good 13 MP images into something the size of a cell phone (although it's easier if your cell phone is the size of a small car).

...the size of a small car on it's side!

Originally Posted by jungmark 
I think April would be a good time for Apple to release the iPhone "math"

Only an Apple rumor site would be able to keep up this abject nonsense of reading a plus sign as "math". 

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Originally Posted by ClaudiusMaximus 


Do you even know what having more megapixels does? I sold cameras for about 5 years and have been an amateur photographer for about 10.

The more megapixels you have, the larger the photo you can print. for the average person who takes a pic and uploads it to Instagram or Facebook, the most you'd need is 4mp.

Now if you were looking to do high res printing, then by all means please tout all you want about the fact that it's 13mp.

The HTC sensor has much larger pixels, which give better results in low light with less processing in software required to remove noise.

Phones do not really have enough room to warrant so many pixels, the sensor in a DSLR is many times larger.

Unfortunately for some, numbers are the only things that matter.

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Originally Posted by Flaneur 


And another full day on the job for McShill MacRulez. You, calling DED desperate . . .

At least he can be open about who he works for.

Another personal attack on a forum member completely lacking in substance.

Keeping it as classy as you can, eh?

Let's see if you can manage to make this less about me and bring it back on topic:

What features in Android do you like so much as to cause your disappointment that they weren't featured in Samsung's event?

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In showing off the new Galaxy S 4, Samsung didn't draw attention to Google's search, mapping or translations services, nor even its ability to download Google Play content. It didn't feature Android apps. 

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Originally Posted by GalaxyTab 

I like this game. So whenever company or a representative from a company says x, the opposite is in fact true?

Does this same logic apply to Apple and Tim cook when he says we shouldn't take notice of dwindling orders from component suppliers and the real truth is things are bad for the iPhone? When he says things are a sideshow they in fact aren't?

I'm guessing no.

We either listen to and trust what these high level executives are saying or its all bull. Which is it and does it only apply to specific companies? Perhaps only your personal biases matter?

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Originally Posted by anonymouse 

 

No, but if a reporter is asking about "friction", it's likely because he knows through sources that there is "friction", it's not just a random question thrown out. The fact that a company representative finds himself in a position of having to confirm or deny the existence of "friction" is very likely an indicator that the "friction" exists.

 

As for "dwindling orders" from component suppliers, we take those with a healthy dose of salt because, as DED likes to write, this all happened before, and the "dwindling orders" rumors turned out to be false or of no consequence.

In other words, the game is, to steal a line from Newsroom, to apply logic and reason and see where that takes us. 

Applying reason and logic, it's appropriate to say that "Where there's smoke, there's fire".

And for me, the tell-tale black billowing cloud was the downplaying of evidently superior software like Google Now in favour of S-Voice and other lesser Samsung offerings. Now that's revealing...

There's trouble brewing in Android Paradise...

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Originally Posted by Flaneur 


Here's you, staying on topic:

"Desperate Dilger"

"his headlines are so stilted that . . ."

"I forgot this was DoubleStandardLand"

"carry on [you iSheep]"

Your stated purpose here is to lift us out of our blind fandom, to help us see, by contemptuous mockery, "what others have achieved." This is the same stated purpose that other professional trolls have used here to explain why they would be spending their working lives here working full-time to correct our vision.

Your real job is to annoy, distract and dispirit. That is a more important topic than the garbage quibble you raise about Dilger's reasoning. By far. So no, I won't bite at your troll bait.

You mad bro?

I responded to Digler's hit piece with a specific, and thus far unrefuted, observation.

All you have is random anger.

If you don't wish to address the topic of this thread at all, that's certainly your choice.

Have a better day.

Originally Posted by MacRulez 
…a laughable, and quite soon after equalized and ridiculed, observation.

You mean.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX 


Seriously?! You jump on every article that Dilger writes to personally attack him. And despite your obsession with him you still can't get his name right.

I agree that Digler's an easy target, but please note that my posts also have at least one specific explanation of why the content he posts is self-evidently silly.

Meanwhile, your reply here just perpetuates the common pattern here, angry personal attacks with nothing rebutting any specific content posted.

Originally Posted by MacRulez 
…Digler's an easy target, but please note…

No. You have either manually set up your autocorrect to change his name or you're typing it out every time for the pleasure.

Either way, stooping to mocking the person's name instantly invalidates anything you have to say on whatever subject you're pretending to bring up.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

No. You have either manually set up your autocorrect to change his name or you're typing it out every time for the pleasure.

 

Either way, stooping to mocking the person's name instantly invalidates anything you have to say on whatever subject you're pretending to bring up.

...as do various misspellings of Samsung. Yet on they go anyway.

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Originally Posted by ClaudiusMaximus 

Do you even know what having more megapixels does? I sold cameras for about 5 years and have been an amateur photographer for about 10.

The more megapixels you have, the larger the photo you can print. for the average person who takes a pic and uploads it to Instagram or Facebook, the most you'd need is 4mp.

Now if you were looking to do high res printing, then by all means please tout all you want about the fact that it's 13mp.

More megapixels is quite useful when you want to crop a smaller section from a larger scene, you still have sufficient resolution to work with. 

Originally Posted by mrmantle 
Apple better respond…

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Originally Posted by mstone 

More megapixels is quite useful when you want to crop a smaller section from a larger scene, you still have sufficient resolution to work with. 

Heck, taking a customer's 72ppi image at 3inx2in and manipulating it for a 4 foot tall display is almost a daily occurrence anymore. I even have commercial clients who should know better send me webpage logos for use on a vehicle wrap. I find it a waste of breath trying to explain the image issues to many of them.

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie 

A 5MP CCD can print upto a meter / 3 feet wide, and you wouldn't notice anything. Anything more than 5MP can be used for murals

I assume you are not in the large format printing business. Even at screen resolution (72 dpi) you would need a 6Mp camera for a 3'x3' print. We like to have at least 150 dpi for large prints. More the better though, up to 300 dpi, then it becomes overkill.

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Originally Posted by mstone 

I assume you are not in the large format printing business. Even at screen resolution (72 dpi) you would need a 6Mp camera for a 3'x3' print. We like to have at least 150 dpi for large prints. More the better though, up to 300 dpi, then it becomes overkill.

Ever have a customer take out a loop to look at one of your prints? 

I've been doing large-format since 1990 and back in the day it wasn't that unusual.

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Originally Posted by Gatorguy 

Ever have a customer take out a loop to look at one of your prints? 

 

I've been doing large-format since 1990 and back in the day it wasn't that unusual.

1990 was a frustrating time for large format. The color calibration sucked. The rips were always producing weird anomalies and they were slow as hell.

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Originally Posted by mstone 

1990 was a frustrating time for large format. The color calibration sucked. The rips were always producing weird anomalies and they were slow as hell.

Onyx and Fiery had a heck of a racket going. I almost miss the old days of "wonder if you can print on this?"

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Originally Posted by Gatorguy 

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Originally Posted by mstone 

1990 was a frustrating time for large format. The color calibration sucked. The rips were always producing weird anomalies and they were slow as hell.

Onyx and Fiery had a heck of a racket going.

I used to get so annoyed with that crappy Postscript that I would occasionally make a 200 line screen 3M Match Print and then take a picture of it with a 8x10 camera, have it photographically enlarged. That was the only way I could get the flesh tones right. I was doing stuff for big time medical companies and it was embarrassing to have to deliver such garbage that the early large format printers were producing. Sorry for hijacking the thread, but back on topic the 13 Mp camera is a plus as long as it has good shadow detail, the lens is sharp enough and the digital zoom, auto focus, etc. are worthy of the high Mp resolution.

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Originally Posted by MacRulez 

Another personal attack on a forum member completely lacking in substance.

 

Keeping it as classy as you can, eh?

 

Let's see if you can manage to make this less about me and bring it back on topic:

 

What features in Android do you like so much as to cause your disappointment that they weren't featured in Samsung's event?

The green trashcan with arms.