Samsung Galaxy S4 'less refined' than Apple's iPhone 5, not seen as a game changer - Page 5

 

Just euphoria, no actual ecstasy? 

It's disingenuous to say it has a PPI of 440 without noting it's PenTIle. Aren't the specs good enough on their own without having to resort to shady tactics?

 

It's a company whose recent financial success is based on the wholesale theft of the design of hardware from another company while using software made by a third company whose UI/X is wholesale stolen from the second. 

 

"Shady tactics" is the toy that comes with the meal.

 

It has the same specs as the US model, CPU wise.

 

You want LTE, you get the quad core snapdragon.

 

The octal core is the 3G International.

 

Measurable in the negative, given that Apple just had their most successful quarter, ever.

 

Mmm...  @Relic  I hadn't noticed any recent posts from you...   How is the battle going?  Hope everything worked out all right!

 

Best

 

Apple don't "repair" their phones, they replace them.

 

You are "phoneless" for as long as it takes for a genius to go get a replacement.

 

Log in and all your stuff starts coming back from iCloud.

 

I suppose you live somewhere where there is no Apple store available anywhere within thousands of miles.

 

So why is the S4 smaller than the Note 2?

 

If you come to Sydney, Australia there's a Samsung store, I think there's another one in Canada.

 

How many Apple stores would you pass getting there?

 

For that you have iPad.

 

If you want LTE you won't have Octo.

That I hadn't heard. I did read that the North American model won't be getting the "Octo" version, but instead the quad-core Snapdragon 600.

I don't think it's well know that you'll never use more than 4 cores on that "Octo"-core Galaxy S IV. It's a great HW-based idea for poor performing OSes so they can use less power from time to time but it's not exactly an ideal solution in the S IV to switch between a 1.6GHz quad-core Cortex-A15 and a 1.2GHz quad-core Cortex-A7 over having a more idealized ASIC and OS.

It looks like a HUGE iPhone 3GS!

 

So this is a lie then. 

"The Retina display on iPhone ushered in the era of super-high-resolution displays. Its pixel density is so high, your eye can’t distinguish individual pixels. The images and words are amazingly vivid and crisp. Everything just looks so real. In fact, once you see a Retina display, you’re never satisfied with anything less. Yet it remains a feature found only on iPhone and other Apple products."

 

http://www.apple.com/iphone/why-iphone/

 

 

It's amazing to see how they are fooling the people.

 

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Why would I sue Apple? It's just that this new 'Why iPhone' page really sounds desperate to me. 

For the false advertising you claim.

 

 

Uh… huh… 

क्या? What part of that marketing paragraph is fooling you? Are you going to claim that Apple's Retina trademark can be found on non-Apple products? Are you going to argue that we're only in an era of high-resolution displays, not super-high resolution? Are you going to defend the small percentage of people that can discern individual pixels with the naked eye of claim you can when you put the RMBP (the lowest PPI Retina product Apple sells) just a couple inches from your face? Will you contend that it doesn't look real, that it only looks better than their old displays? Or are you going to sue because you can be satisfied with something less?


I personally would have been more vigilant in detailing the definition of Retina and communicating in a more direct way, but I don't see anything that screams they breaking the law or purposely being deceptive.

It's really simple. Back in 2010, Apple had explained that iPhone 4 display whose PPI is more than 300 hence it's retina display.

 

Now-a-days lot of cell phones are coming with PPI more than that. And in the ad, they claim that only iPhone comes with retina display. Whether it's their trademark or not, the technology which identifies any particular display as Retina is coming with several other handsets. 

 

BTW Apple also claims iOS as world's most advanced operating system. That's hilarious. Especially when Tweeter & Facebook integration were their one of the major features of iOS 5 & 6 respectively. 

 

There's a whole bit about sub-pixel rendering that you're missing here.

 

So… your subjective nonsense should be taken as fact, but Apple's subjective nonsense is obvious lies. That it?

 

HTC Droid DNA has full RGB display. 

 

 

 

I am not going to explain what's not in iOS. I use 4S & my dad use Galaxy Nexus. I am well aware of what I can't do with my phone whist my dad can. It's just that I am not blindsided by blatant Apple fanboyism. 

Why would you? There's an aleph-null minus one things not in iOS.

 

So trolling and refusal to back up your position. Okay.

Your original comment was, "Now-a-days lot of cell phones are coming with PPI more than that." and yet the nearly all that are coming out with a stated PPI in the Retina-range are using PenTile.

Your counter to "a lot" was to list a single model. One model. I think I listed 3 models earlier on in this thread that meet or exceed the iPhone with a proper RGB subpixel arrangement but I wouldn't call that "a lot".

I understand that to troll means you aren't thinking through your position before you state it as unwavering fact but I can't imagine anyone would claim that one example is proof of "a lot."

 

I don't have to backup my position. It's just that Apple hasn't in their claim of world's most advance operating system. 

 

Do I have to give a list of each & every handsets available with RGB arrangement? This is not a word play we are playing. 

How about just creating a sound argument that backs up your position.

I've done a better job at defending your point and that wasn't even my goal.

 

They did coin the term so they're correct. It's not a mandated industry wide term and if I were the competition I'd take offense if anyone used that term to describe a display in one of my devices.

Apple better not be dismissing Samsung or their latest efforts. Whatever they say to the public about the new S4, a larger iPhone has be coming off the production line soon or risk losing more market share, leverage with the carriers, and people opting out of their neat ecosystem. The one form factor is over, with its thumb sized screen. Either someone has larger thumbs or has figured out there's more to do with a cell phone than using it with one hand.

 

Or they're not using their phones. That's an option.

Yes, I was making a very, very subtle point about useless features. No wonder you didn't get it. Next time I'll try to make it understandable for anyone, including you.

I really hate reading through the first few comments of bad metaphors and tired talking points that add little information. As for the underwhelming statements, we read the same thing with the 4s, now they're hyping the 5s while downplaying the S4. These tech tidbits don't seem well thought out to me. It's more like they need to submit their commentary on a deadline with little time spent with the actual device, regardless of brand. 

 

The extreme majority of digital cameras work the same way. There are of course a couple foveon cameras and scanning backs. I read once that the bayer array design was due to the human eye being more sensitive to green light, but I'm not sure of its accuracy. Those are still reported by total pixels, even though not every raw processing algorithm interpolates to the same rasterized resolution. Differences are usually minor, but unless it's one that uses set resolutions, the variation is minimal. It can be a 20 pixel variation in one dimension from a 30-40MP camera. I realize only professional level cameras have that kind of resolution. I used that range because at the lower end, fewer output encoded raw data.

 

 

Tired of Jonathan Ives eyes and back to manga?

 

Interestingly enough, I'd completely forgotten about those! Now to cry myself to sleep.

 

Apple has acquired fingerprint sensing technology so they could incorporate it with NFC to make it widespread standard for transactions. But it doesn't sound that much enticing. I think they will include one or more specific features which would lure the people to buy it anyway. IGZO?

 

Problem lies with the software. Apple has been long riding on simple UI for more than it's required. It feels static. We are living in the era where most of people can handle more functionality regardless it adds complexity. 

 

I am not a touchwiz fan. Only thing I like on Galaxy S III is that Samsung has used the Wolfson DAC. I still don't understand why Apple had switched from Wolfson to Cirrus Logic. Although it sounds more detailed & crisp but it lacks on 3D image and lots of reviews have mentioned that it has an electronic haze in the sound. This is the only reason why I have still kept my 5.5G iPod Video. Wolfson sounds less precise, but its timbre contains more harmonic information and sounds less electronic. 

 

Why? What, you want "live apps"? The idea is that it doesn't get any more complex.

Regardless of how one feel about iPhone or Samsung Galaxy hardware or OS software, the Galaxy phones have surpassed the iPhone as the "it" phone.  

 

When lots of parents are sync up together on the iPhone, it's no longer a fad.  It's no longer cool to be seen with the iPhone when the next person in the grocery store line is a soccer mom who also has an iPhone looking thu Pinterest or the suits in the subway have the white iPhone headphones.  

 

Samsung has done a good job (and spent lots of marketing money) to be associated with LeBron James.  More street cred and cool.  

 

 

 

The implication being that Apple ever intended the iPhone to be a "fad".

 

 

The implication being that vanity means more than having a device that actually works.

 

By law Apple is cooler than Samsung. Who the heck is LeBron James?

HTC, LG and Sony phones with 1080p all use full RGB pixel layouts.  Only Samsung uses a Pentile arangement...

Did you mean to quote me in your reply? If so, why?

 

Because you're wrong in stating that "and yet the nearly all that are coming out with a stated PPI in the Retina-range are using PenTile" <-- (your quote)

 

Yet, only Samsung phones use a Pentile arrangement, in fact, PenTile is a trademark of Samsung.  All screens made by other manufacturers use an RGB arrangement (even Samsungs LCDs do too)...

I think Motorola still uses PenTile as well.