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I keep hearing that iOS is the same ol boring GUI that Android users spout, but then I look at these Android products and can't help but notice they have the fugliest icons I've ever seen and it reminds me of some cheap electronic toy that's made by Milton Bradley seen at Toy's R Us.
Like the Fisher Price fonts that windows uses.
post #42 of 214
Am i the first one to state the obvious: who cares what the device is made of!!! The vast majority of samsung and iphone users have cases on there phones, and done rally notice the material its made of. Were talking about de oces that cost over half a grand without rebates (well over that in the case of the iphone 5). Youd be stupid not to put a case on it. It doesnt matter how resilient the device is, they break. I was horrified to watch my new iphone 4 fall from my gym locker just weeks after it was released (thankfully apple replaced the screen for $100). After that ill never keep a phone without a case. In general i never see people with bare iphone of s3s. So why does anyo e really care what there phone is made of. Unless you really want to admit your phone isnt about functionality, but i jst a status symbol.

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Not focusing on hardware says the hardware manufacturer.
post #44 of 214
Give the phone a soul says the company with an OS called Android.
post #45 of 214

If focusing on services means integrating more or less useless apps into OS, then they have not disappointed me: they remained good old Samsung...

 

What amazes me is how Apple allows them to  place series of product lines without any clue of whatsoever, when Apple should be game changer and product line introduces. It is a great shame for Apple that they lure customers out with such vain company like Samsung, loosing long-term market share over it...


Edited by poksi - 3/17/13 at 1:29am
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Am i the first one to state the obvious: who cares what the device is made of!!! The vast majority of samsung and iphone users have cases on there phones, and done rally notice the material its made of. Were talking about de oces that cost over half a grand without rebates (well over that in the case of the iphone 5). Youd be stupid not to put a case on it. It doesnt matter how resilient the device is, they break. I was horrified to watch my new iphone 4 fall from my gym locker just weeks after it was released (thankfully apple replaced the screen for $100). After that ill never keep a phone without a case. In general i never see people with bare iphone of s3s. So why does anyo e really care what there phone is made of. Unless you really want to admit your phone isnt about functionality, but i jst a status symbol.

Phil

I don't consider myself stupid, and indeed have dropped my 5 (bought without subscription, paid $1170) yet don't put it in a case. I think they all are made of plastic or leather. Besides, what's the point of a thin phone if you're going to put it in a case where it becomes thicker?
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Am i the first one to state the obvious: who cares what the device is made of!!! The vast majority of samsung and iphone users have cases on there phones, and done rally notice the material its made of. Were talking about de oces that cost over half a grand without rebates (well over that in the case of the iphone 5). Youd be stupid not to put a case on it. It doesnt matter how resilient the device is, they break. I was horrified to watch my new iphone 4 fall from my gym locker just weeks after it was released (thankfully apple replaced the screen for $100). After that ill never keep a phone without a case. In general i never see people with bare iphone of s3s. So why does anyo e really care what there phone is made of. Unless you really want to admit your phone isnt about functionality, but i jst a status symbol.

Phil

 

Sorry , but you are very wrong here. I work in a team of developers, not small, where only 2 phones are represented: iPhone and Galaxy. ALL EXCEPT ONE Galaxy don't have original screen glass that is not broken. Samsung owners are not exclusively prone to drop their phones on hard surfaces. THeir phones break in pockets as well, where iPhones doesn't.

 

If you pay a great deal of money on portable device, physical quality DOES matter..


Edited by poksi - 3/17/13 at 1:37am
post #48 of 214
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I don't consider myself stupid, and indeed have dropped my 5 (bought without subscription, paid $1170) yet don't put it in a case. I think they all are made of plastic or leather. Besides, what's the point of a thin phone if you're going to put it in a case where it becomes thicker?

 

Cases on iPhone give protection agains scratching and other physical damage by dropping. They don't need protection against bending. Plastic phones do, but there is no acceptable size rigid protective case that can beat iPhone unibody design. iPhone glass will not break by bending. iPhone are of unprecedented physical quality.

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iPhone are of unprecedented physical quality.

I'll say! I dropped it, 3 feet onto a marble floor. It has a little dent on the top, right, back, only noticeable if I show it to someone. The phone is a brick, and I mean that in a good way! And how I love the headphone jack at the bottom; I don't need to flip over the phone when I take it out of my running shirt during a bicycle ride.
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post #50 of 214
Here's an amusing little photo for you all:



IPad, 1st Gen.

Dropped three foot off a table dresser onto this TV stand.

Left a gouge in the wood about 4mm deep.

And the iPad?

Not a damn scratch.
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post #51 of 214
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Here's an amusing little photo for you all:

IPad, 1st Gen.

Dropped three foot off a table dresser onto this TV stand.

Left a gouge in the wood about 4mm deep.

And the iPad?

Not a damn scratch.

A slam-dunk device, for sure ¡
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post #52 of 214
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Function should always dictate form and in the case (quite literally) of Samsung's Galaxy series of devices, the use of Polycarbonate allows for devices that are lightweight, impact resistant, durable and more efficient to manufacture.
 

I guess you missed the dropping test  video compared the durability of iPhone 5 and Galaxy SIII, by the guys from Android blog nonetheless. It's a shame that your spin is just fall flat on the face. :)

post #53 of 214

Pathetic declarations, which indeed do not deserve site coverage ...

 

But at second thought, somewhat funny to see what Apple competitors can invent to justify their poor design choices.

 

In that respect, I look forward to Ballmer's statements about Microsoft Surface future ....

post #54 of 214

You are soul, Dennis Miloseski you ARE SOUL, Samsung has plenty like you.

 

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"Please, no! Don't throw me away after six months! I… I know my successor is out already and I can't have the newest software, but PLEASE!"

 

 

 

btw, here is a picture of a Sony Xperia Z taking a picture of your post, a phone that is every bit as good as the Samsung Galaxy S4.

 

5" 1920x1080 screen - check

12 Megapixel camera - check

Quad core & LTE - check

Eleventy Billion in marketing - doh!

 

 

 

It's in my hand now and I can sell them now.

 

No lump at the back where the camera is.

 

Dropping it in water won't kill it.


Edited by hill60 - 3/17/13 at 3:30am
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^ above pic

Wow. Sony phone taking a picture of a Microsoft product, displayed on a Samsung screen. Quality post ¡
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post #56 of 214
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Step 2: remove Google's soulless, ad-revenue-hoarding "profit layer," and create a "Samsung fork" of Android.

 

It's not a fork, it's a "hub".

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It's pretty much of a yawn device, an almost identical copy of its predecessor, but has 8 cores...

 

...only if you don't want LTE.

 

Remember when LTE was the reason Android phones were better than iPhones?

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post #58 of 214
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...only if you don't want LTE.

Remember when LTE was the reason Android phones were better than iPhones?

And don't forget that you can only ever use 4 of the cores at any on time.

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Sometime I think these trolls are people like hair dressers, accountants and hole diggers, 

 

What happened to baristas?

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post #60 of 214
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I don't consider myself stupid, and indeed have dropped my 5 (bought without subscription, paid $1170) yet don't put it in a case. I think they all are made of plastic or leather. Besides, what's the point of a thin phone if you're going to put it in a case where it becomes thicker?

 

These aren't bad:-

 

http://www.tech21.uk.com

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post #61 of 214
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I 2nd that. To much already with the samscum.
Rename the site if this is what it's changing to.

There is such a possibility of not visiting a site you don't like, rather than demanding a change.

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There is such a possibility of not visiting a site you don't like, rather than demanding a change.

Or not reading, much less commenting, on an article that starts off with Samsung in the title.

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post #63 of 214
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Wow. Sony phone taking a picture of a Microsoft product, displayed on a Samsung screen. Quality post ¡

 

Taken with an iPhone 5 and edited slightly (rotated and cropped) on a MacBook.

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post #64 of 214

Can someone explain to me how an inanimate object can have a soul?

post #65 of 214
It's hard to design devices with souls when no one at Samsung has one. Maybe they can find a way to copy souls as well.
post #66 of 214
Devices with a soul... that talk to you... and understand you... they get better than you... and they conquer the woooooorld!


I'm sorry, Dave. I cannot let you do that, Dave.

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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post #67 of 214
When I read stuff like, "We decided to focus on X more then Y (physical design)", I think, "So you prompted a world-class designer to do less than his/her greatest work, hired an 'ok' designer, or frustrated the crap out of someone that was trying to give you some soul/class by not listening."

Let's see how Sir Ives responds.
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No that question can only be asked to Apple. The trolls infesting this site constantly tout this as an inherent flaw with Apple, and something done on purpose, without understanding shit about technology.
Sometime I think these trolls are people like hair dressers, accountants and hole diggers, minimal at best knowledge of technology, engineering, design and programming and UI design to name just some.
I mean no disrespect to them but they are simply overreaching and most times just spew what the idiotic pun dents spew out each and every day. The next person that has no background in the disciplines required to make such a device like an iPad and says its a toy will be kicked out of my house.


Same question: "Why can't the iPhone 4 get Siri"? Or that nifty panorama feature?

Apple's no better than Samsung when it comes to artificially restricting hardware from running software features, because it would reduce their sales. You can't blame Apple, or Samsung. They're companies, not non-profits.

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Let's see how Sir Ives responds.

SIRI-ves?

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post #70 of 214
Maybe they need to google "soul" and see if that's consistent with their corporate strategy.
post #71 of 214

Samsung talking about soul - er next there be changing there name from samsung to iclone.

post #72 of 214
Samsung is nothing more than a thieving, Flawgic, Dilger "Flexible Adaptive Logic" inspired joke. They were exposed for their lack of any real insight with the unveiling of the S4. The S4 is an Ugly, software gimmicky piece of crap. No price reveal, no battery life reveal and no processor reveal. Samsung proved with the S4 reveal that without Apple to copy they have nothing inspiring. The IPhone 5 is the most Beautifully Designed device ever made. Apple's IOS software and eco-system is years ahead of the competition. The S4 will be thrown in the trash after 3 months when Apple comes out with the latest greatest and Samsung falls all over themselves to copy it introducing the Galaxy S5.
post #73 of 214
"Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer". Thus, AppleInsider needs to cover Samsung. I'm sure Apple is.

The converse is Apple's problem. With failure in many ways to keep Apple's designs and other features hidden, Apple is unable to keep their enemies at a distance, allowing them time to counter Apple offensives.

Thus, for Apple, a solid and reliable Samsung Insider would be valuable.
post #74 of 214
When you're weak at design, downplay the importance of design.
Edited by freediverx - 3/17/13 at 8:04am
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Am i the first one to state the obvious: who cares what the device is made of!!! The vast majority of samsung and iphone users have cases on there phones, and done rally notice the material its made of. Were talking about de oces that cost over half a grand without rebates (well over that in the case of the iphone 5). Youd be stupid not to put a case on it. It doesnt matter how resilient the device is, they break. I was horrified to watch my new iphone 4 fall from my gym locker just weeks after it was released (thankfully apple replaced the screen for $100). After that ill never keep a phone without a case. In general i never see people with bare iphone of s3s. So why does anyo e really care what there phone is made of. Unless you really want to admit your phone isnt about functionality, but i jst a status symbol.

Phil

I don't use a case for my iPhone 5.  There are several reasons.  iPhone 5 is light, elegant with the metal back. And I save money without the cases.

For some people like you that can not fully take care of the phone, a case then is necessary.  But I see many people using Galaxy S3 with cases.  It looks really bulky.  

post #76 of 214
You know Samsung just doesn't get it, they just don't get it. One of these days they will wake up and understand that design plays a key role in the overall function of a phone. I can understand the reasoning behind using cheap plastic such as being able to swap batteries and add a micro sd card but Samsung has no soul and they clearly don't get it which is really sad if you think about it.
post #77 of 214
In other words the design chief has no real reason for the decision to make all of their phones out of cheap fischer price plastic. Don't give me this "durable" nonsense. Look at any drop test, Samsung phones are not nearly as durable as they claim. That plastic breaks much too easily.
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Function should always dictate form ...

 

Only the first five words, of your first post in a long time and you are wrong.  1smile.gif

 

Function and form go together, one does not "dictate" the other.  

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You think it's bad here and you want a new MacRumors type site? Have you been to MacRumors lately? 

 

I believe that's why he said a NEW site. Not just that he was going to jump ship to macrumors.

 

 

as for what the 'management' will do. How about nothing, as long as they get page hits to earn them ad money do you really think they care. Nope. Not really. 

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Only the first five words, of your first post in a long time and you are wrong.  1smile.gif

 

Function and form go together, one does not "dictate" the other.  

 

In an ideal world yes the two should be considered together but this is not an ideal world and one side always seem to hold more weight than the other and I agree with DaHarder that that side should be function, not form. 

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