BlackBerry CEO calls Apple's iPhone user interface outdated - Page 5

 

Your Android screenshot (from a Norwegian Android device by the way) looks better than the first Android screen shot, but there's still something off about the icons. Maybe it's because there are no guidelines, and they come in whatever shape people feel like making them.

 

I'm glad you mentioned that! Google Play has thousands of icon sets to download. There are a ton of creative options out there. Even third party complete crooks stealing iOS designs. There are actually a lot of really great ones. That's the beauty of Android. As was my original point. You can't bash the look of Android because there are so many options out there that it is easy to create a beautiful looking home screen (Not including the one below per my personal preference)

 

I was lazy and picked the first result in Google images.

 

 

Back off Blackberry!
U can't even fix your own shit!

the 1980's called they want their rhetoric back

My wife got a My touch over the weekend with Android on it, it is so hard to use not intuitive at all, I thought the UI on my iphone 4s was getting outdated but I'll take it in a heartbeat before I'll swap to Android, the phone looked great but the UI made me want to throw it against the wall in frustration.

Oh did not know we are not making the smartphone industry like the shoe industry

girls

All I can say is that a grid of Icon is far older than 5 yrs old, let me see they date back to 1984 or before, 84 is the first time the general public saws rows of icon as a way to invoke a program to run or execute. Is RIM suggesting we need a whole new method, maybe mind control, you think it and it runs, verse talking to your device and looking like a moron on the street issuing command or random questions to your phone. So maybe the whole rows of icons you click on is a bit outdated and passe

The reason it works is because it is just simple and easy to remember, nothing new to learn.

 

You got a mytouch? Yikes. The newest mytouch was released in 2010 and wasn't great to start with. Please don't judge Android by this budget phone.

 

And readers like you should be banned for using AppleInsiders services and not paying them for it when you block Google ads. If you want to be on the web you need to either support AI and deal with Google ads or find another site that allows a paying membership.

 

Pathetic.

I agree here... there should be something done with the apps launcher and home screen. Since now days we have tens and hundreds apps installed I really have pain finding the right app. I usually launch apps so I swipe left to get the search bar and then type in the app name to find it and launch it... I mean there's gotta be better way of doing that... I know what you will say, put your apps on home screen, there you have it 1 tap away... Well true but not so easy, because you cant have 50 apps there. Folders are more or less useless, you always forget what is where. So when in need to launch app ASAP the search thing is really the way to do it.

 

Maybe it's just me but I would agree here. Apple needs to step up and improve things. 90% of UI is perfect, but the app launcher and home screen, there's so much place for improvement.
 

 

Then shouldn't you be banned from watching TV? Tell me you don't skip commercials when watching TV or a recorded show with your Tivo box or DVR.

 

Hypocritic.

That looks really fugly. An eyesore. (Sorry that I had to repost it).

 

If this is an example of one of the "great ones" you Androiders can keep it.

 

I don't have cable. I pay for Netflix. Nice try tho.

 

And supporting a free AppleInsider site by simply allowing ads is not even on the same planet as skipping commercials for a cable company that you pay for and gives you a DVR for free.

I still find the interface delightful. I mean that word, "delightful". It's intuitive and colorful and fun and acts as expected. I don't find myself wanting.

On computers (and now TVs) everywhere are still rectangular areas of information (call them windows, panes, live tiles, whatever), pointers and icons and highlight states. They still work.

I don't mean to say that Apple shouldn't innovate, shouldn't continue to study the relationship between device and user. I mean the argument presented, without qualification of any sort, is just useless.

Comes down to aesthetics. You prefer cartoons, I prefer designs.

Cartoons ARE more energetic, so I can see why some nervous systems are more engaged by them. I'm repelled by a grid of random-edged visual shouts competing with each other. Others get off on them. It's not exactly a matter of taste, but it is a matter of tolerance or habituation.

Don't agree the this looks nicer but they're basically the same...rows/columns of icons.  Only difference is Android's is part of the app drawer, not the home screen.

It's outdated from a fashion standpoint - for those who think the iOS needs to change just so it looks fresh.   It's not outdated from a functional standpoint, because it works quite well, although I can also buy the notion that the startup screen should not necessarily be a list of applications, but something that summarizes news/weather/stocks/activity, etc.       Having said that, Apple used to lead in screen design, use of appropriate fonts and general elegance and even Microsoft and Google are now capable of designs that seem more elegant and/or advanced than Apple's.     I think Apple has to retake that lead.    

 

There's a screen I can pull down from the 1st app icon screen that frankly, I'm not sure whether it's  part of iOS or came from another app - perhaps the NY Times app, but it has weather at the top, then a frame to make a Facebook post, then stocks, then Facebook listings and then New York Times articles and then it has some flight information.   The only problem is that it doesn't seem to update often - the NY Times articles it's currently showing are 2 days old and the flights it's showing me are almost a month old -- seems to me once taken, the flights should disappear.   But a properly executed version of this probably makes more sense as a startup screen.

Updated icons - would give the sheen of something fresh, without changing the bones of the UI. More info on the lock screen would be useful and getting rid of the skeuomorphics would be nice too. Apart from that iOS is golden.

 

 

Its an example of one of the worst ones in my opinion. Just used it to point out how many different options there are in Android. This one, below, is more my style. I like to change it up on occasion. Depends on my mood. 

 

Check some out for yourself!    http://mycolorscreen.com/mostviewed/?time=all

 

 

 

No, it wouldn't.

But you would skip commercials if you did subscribe to a TV provider. You can't honestly say that you haven't skipped when you've had the opportunity to do so.

 

Commercials don't originate solely by the cable company, many are passed through from the networks so that is a hollow argument. 

I realize you're trying to be helpful. But, please. Stop.

This goes back to what someone here said about wanting to be entertained by the phone's OS.

The last thing I want to do in life is mess with my phone. To reflect "my mood" even less. There's much to learn during a lifetime . . .

Seriously...from the head of a walking dead company?! Pot...meet kettle.

I'll be sure to keep these comments in mind when BB ceases to exist a year from now, or at best manages to get near negligible market share. 

Don't be a fool, and don't be an infant.

 

"Removing skeuomorphism" removes everything down to and including buttons. Skeuomorphism is RIGHT, both in generic and expanded forms. The design is with what you take issue, not the concept. 

 

Stop pretending nonsense. Or if you're going to pretend it, don't post it.

 

So change your search order.

 

 

Reading your lies makes me depressed.

 

Because I don't feel like wasting my time posting the pages-long explanation of why skeuomorphism itself not only isn't bad, it's the best solution for UI/X. It's common sense, so why repost it every time someone whines about something they choose not to understand? If you do any reading on the subject whatsoever, you'll see why you're wrong. You don't protest the concept of skeuomorphism, you protest the specific designs used. 

Notice it's not customers who say this. iOS is simple. It's the only smartphone os that is simple.

 

It's that simple.

 

I love iOS.

So Android is beautiful because you're free to make your phone not look like Android? I'll buy that. /s

The above post is a classic case of how Android fans (and Windows fans before them) just don't get it. They think that UI is all about the appearance of the icons. If you can change the way it looks, that must be a good thing, right? You can simply choose one that works best.

In reality, UI is about how it WORKS, not how it looks. Changing an icon has absolutely no impact on the UI. A bad UI is still a bad UI now matter how many different faces you try to put on it.

 

What differences would you like to see? The tech community doesn't understand product design, and they never will. iOS is great.

 

Eh... OK.

 

And triangular shaped wheels! Those round ones are so boring.

Yeah, go criticize the company that cleaned your clock, how "innovative"...  Or is he just trying to say "we fell asleep behind the wheel and got bulldozed by Apple"? Thorsten, stand at a mirror and read your comments to yourself once more.

 

Change for the sake of change is meaningless. It has to have a purpose.

Well, a lot of people claim that the Dvorak key layout is superior, so you're not technically right, but the point is valid. There's no reason to arbitrarily change a UI just because you want something different - which is what is being suggested here. iOS works extremely well and so far no one has given any valid changes that need to be made.

The funny part is that most of the big Microsoft and Android fans call Macs (and iOS devices) toys - while they're busy playing with 1000 different configurations and thinking that changing the wallpaper makes it a new UI.

 

It's near impossible to create a clean user-friendly UI when working from scratch. Which is why they industry is constantly looking to the likes of Apple for inspiration. Simple is the most difficult of things to achieve. It's only with hindsight that it looks easy.

 

But yeah, get your point about changing direction once the ship is moving. That's hard. Especially when you've got something as intuitive as iOS. I think the secret is to keep it the same, but tweak it here and there bit by bit as required. Subtle things can make a world of a difference. Like up-to-date icons for certain apps like weather apps, calendars and clocks.

 

This is going to be unpopular around here, but I think Apple went too far in adding those 2 widgets to NC. Keeping iOS clean should be high priority for Apple. Once you start that game you get end up lost in the woods.

Can't we all just get a long???  :P

 

people... it's frigging icons for bloody sake.  

 

 

Serious though - People actually do UI's for a living, by figuring out what is best way for things to flow, and work easiest for humans.  And when I have seen top ones stating over and over again about the "newer" UI's being trash and causes things to be longer and harder than they should... who would you believe? A scientist who does that sort of thing for a living, or a CEO of a competing company?  And if memory serves me correctly, didn't Apple actually have one of these little scientists work on the UI for the iPhone?  Someone get that CEO some new cheerios...

If there was a site that was guaranteed to be 100% free of Fandroids, that might be worth a few bucks to me.

 

Agreed. We hold Apple to a different standard.

 

+5B

 

And if I didn't want to I wouldn't have to. I'm just glad I have that option.

 

In my opinion, if Apple wants to continue to entice the young, very tech savvy, gotta-have-it-now, always want to be the newest, generation of kids that will soon have disposable income, iOS needs to change. It's just my opinion from seeing all my friends and colleges and classmates who mostly have non-Apple phones. No offense, but, you sound exactly like the parents in the Samsung ads. Apple would have to do so little to make that change happen and I really hope they do.