BlackBerry CEO calls Apple's iPhone user interface outdated - Page 7

So ?  There are times when one cannot block all ads, I don't have nor need an ad blocker as ads NEVER register with me.

They are simply background noise.

I am the worse type of user in google's eyes.

Having said this, I have nothing to do with them, with regards to gmail (spambot), google+ (piss poor version of facebook, which I despise also), search, maps etc.

I do have alternatives, they are fine to me.

At the end of the day, me as an iOS user, generates NO money for google, not one single cent, and this makes me very happy.

Edited by hfts - 3/18/13 at 7:12pm

The same folder system that android blatantly copied after Apple.

So tell me, in which time line do you operate in, because one needs to know before discussing anything with you.

Edited by hfts - 3/18/13 at 7:13pm

Actually you are wrong or overally simplying things.

The position of fields on an input screen with associated text (labels) can be a hit and miss afair, to say it doesn't matter is overally simplying things.

Here is a good example, I saw an input/output screen that reflected the database elements in a rather poor way, the fields who simply "painted" in the order they appears in the table structure and all over the place. Obviously a lazy bastard of a programmer did this.

A programmer with an ounce of integrity would not have done this, he/she would group logical data into areas, thus making it easier to view the information, resulting in better input accuracy and less eye strain as the most obvious advantages.

You would be quite surprised how some Users are very thankful when you fix up an ugly screen, add contextual help, use borders and selectable lists etc.

All this on a mainframe application too.

Having written this, I love iOS, for its simplicity and minimalist style, its easy to use for 1 year olds to 100 year olds, and that is how an OS should be.

None of which explains your claim taht I'm wrong or overly simplified things.

Oh, wait. You're still mad because I proved you were lying about being a chemist.

I read an article about 3 years ago about a US woman who is a UI designer (one of the top in her field), complaining about the extremely bad web sites.

Far too busy, cluttered, not logically ordered, full of ads, difficult to navigate and find things.

The reason for this is that may web sites are done by non-professionals, and I mean those that are not employed in IT.

Most of these are people who bought some web site design tools and now think they can design sites, how delusional.

 

It takes skill, knowledge and expertise in designing sites, screens etc.

One must consider many things. However in the end the major focus is on clarity, easy navigation, help when you need it, grouping of data elements, labelling etc.

To me iOS meets all these. That is why I am happy with it, nor do I think it needs change.

An OS is not an app, when will people learn this fact.

A grid of icons is fine by me, I can arrange these, hide some that I don't need, remove them, search for them and navigate around them fludity and at ease.

The iOS is simply a container for the apps, a smart container at that, but nether the less basically this.

 

Please Apple do not change it, it doesn't need any changes.

As I posted before, 1 year olds and 100 years olds can easily use it, no manual required.

 

What Apple does need to fix is their virrual keyboard though, and Maps will grow stronger and better with each passing day as Apple is clearly focused here.

Apple will come out with an updated UI when their GPU power is a bit more beefier.  Call this UI upgrade "From OSX with Love".

 

1) I can imagine the lock screen being like OSX with the dashboard.  Apple can allow certain apps to be set in settings to live there.  Many 1 to 4 apps at a time.  As you add more the screen real estate divides to display the apps (e.g. stock ticker, weather, sports scores, top news, etc).  Without unlocking the screen you can then magnify with your finger each tile as you can in OSX.

 

2) Next, an update to the folders.  Make them spring loaded.  I'm kind of tired of the fade in of the folder as a block of icons.  Keep that as an option to revert back to in settings.

 

3) Real multitasking but as an option for users to set per app.  Make a gesture to launch "Mission Control" to switch between the apps.  

 

5) Hopping icons when they want to get your attention or shaking.  Similar to dock icons.

 

6) A magnifying glass but not really.  Rather an X-Ray meets magnifying glass to peer through the app icons and show you a preview of what's updated in the app that it is pointing at the most. 

 

7) Updated camera features to match and rival Samsung's.  Ok this is not a UI refinement but a feature request just like at refresh of iWork would be nice too.

 

Thanks,

Tory

Careful there.  More than a few of the regulars here are about to chime in with posts that iOS' multitasking is not only already "real", but also the most perfect multitasking possible and to want anything else is a sure sign of communism/satanism/whatever today's fear-du-jour is.

 

;)

 

 

This from the guy whose signature contains an all-time great troll slapdown from addabox.

I got to argue with you in this case, even though I generally agree about not feeding trolls. I don't really care if sept 11 is a concern troll, or a troll at all.

This "stale" and "dated" crap is the worst attack against Apple yet, and clearly it's getting a lot of play in both the mainstream and tech press, since journalists are herd animals with very little thought processes of their own. They trade in prefab memes, the stupider the better sometimes, because obnoxiousness sells.

What's so toxic about this "stale" meme is that it derives and is circulated by an emotional defect in the young meme monger. He is "bored" because his phone no longer entertains him. This kind of subjective, self-inflicted discontent can spread virally from geek to geek more easily, surely, than an "objective" meme like "Apple is too controlling."

So this one has to be fought with at every irruption because it's much more of an infection in the population of geeks, not just a ideological position. I'm not saying it's the best way of dealing with it, but trying to shame the perpetrator is the only way I've come up with so far.

I agree with him and almost everybody thinks that it's a little outdated.
I wish Apple would embrace sensitive bezels.
One swipe from the bottom and up would open the app-tray. Keep your finger on the screen after the swipe and move it left or right to change app icon (or preview) then lift it to switch app directly.
Swiping left or right on the bottom bezel switches apps left/right.
One swipe from the left bezel might open a notification tray (like on blackberry), much better than from the top.
That way all gestures might be achieve with one hand only.
In any case, with the possible revamp of iOS (if Ive has enough time to make it) Apple could insist on the fact that the phone is operable single-handedly like it used to. Hope they move the back button to the bottom too.

But people are mostly complaining about pure visual appearance so a simple redesign will appease most people. They only care about that after all.
Edited by ClemyNX - 3/19/13 at 1:33am

That would be the most logical thing to do: appease the most.

 

Is that seriously supposed to be a 'beautiful home screen'?

It's awful.

Here here!

Why do so many people view "easy" as inferior, as if the more intelligent and sophisticated prefer cumbersome interfaces?

It's the stupid and short sighted who cannot create an elegant, empowering simplicity.

 

And yet you are constantly asking other posters what professional qualifications they possess and then refuse to engage with and belittle them when they don't.  As soon as you get proved wrong you either get abusive or disappear from the thread (I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence in another thread for your claim that Google sells email addresses).

 

This whole post, especially your last sentence, is hypocrisy at its best.

 

Seriously, what is your issue?  You're constantly asking people why they post on this site, but I'm confused as to why you post here.  If I visited a forum that got me as angry as you appear to get on here, I'd stop visiting it as it really isn't good for your health.

 

Your credibility here is shot I'm afraid.

It wouldn't be my choice either, but maybe that's his point.

If it is not broken, don't fix it! iPhone's interface is so easy to use, accessible and fast, if it is not broken, why upgrade the GUI? It is like a car, it got steering wheel, the design is seriously outdated, why not change it? There is no need because it is STILL working the way it is DESIGNED to be. Don't fix the design of steering wheel, it is still working, therefore don't fix it. iPhone can continue to upgrade its technology to provide better graphics, better application support, better video, and all that jazz, but leave GUI alone.

If it is not broken, don't fix it!

Anyone who thinks the current version of iOS is not any different than the first version, beyond the basic functionality, is either not familiar or is just trying to blow smoke up someones arse.

"BlackBerry CEO calls Apple's iPhone user interface outdated"

 

What a sad comment from the leader I thought was going to save RIM.  It shows desperation.

If only the RIM OS10 software could come close to what Apple's iOS has had for years!

 

I've now had a BB Playbook for 14 months, fairly good hardware, but very inferior software.

If only it could come slightly closer to my iPhone iOS5 software or my our iPad's software.

No browser bookmark manager, slowdowns and inconsistent touch response obviously due to slowness in  the software.  Very poor Apps, many I try don't work at all.  No good Stock App.

Doesn't connect to some WiFi hotspots.

 

Our iPhone and iPad do all the things I find poor in the RIM OS10 software.

 

I'll to give my frustrating limited RIM PB away and get a Mini iPad.

But not to a friend who will get annoyed at me for dumping my tech  trash.

Thanks for this post; I read some review, albeit short, but you sum it up nicely. One thing that keeps coming back is the touch response; Apple devices are always accurate, 'speedy' and somehow ignore accidental touches. While typing that last one out I cannot fully comprehend what I mean by that; simply restating what others write, yet I concur. How's that for a magical device¿

It's not a question of fixing, but of updating.

My Nokia 3310 was great and perfect for me. That doesn't mean that it didn't need to be updated.

And the back button is currently broken on iPhone 5 being on the top left. Same for the notification tray on iPad which just looks awful.

"And if it breaks when you bent, you better not put it in"

Ha ha! I have a BB10 and its almost giving me a migraine. Mr Heins, before you make such comments, read user feedback at the BB Supportforums:

 

- I still havent been able to transfer my calendar entries from my older Blackberry 9900 to the Z10. Tried every solution listed. How’s that for an advanced OS.

 

- The killed push-email, the ONLY great thing they had. Sad. (of course, I know many a fan will pounce and offer XWZ solutions, but the earlier BBs had fantastic email. This one does not even close. My god. The OS is advanced way beyond and declared email dead.

 

- Randomly, some of my emails show as read, even though I have never seen them. BB10 is so advanced, thinks email is dead.

 

- My device screen orientation lock isn’t working. Must be because the OS is so futuristic, it doesnt want to be disturbed by us prehistoric people - Sometimes, the contact app cannot be quit. I have to pull the battery. Wow. Futuristic.

 

- BB10 thinks iPhone OS is outdated because in an iPhone you can’t pull the battery to fix problems at least 3 times a day - sometimes is impossible to get out of the camera app without pulling the battery. Awesome. They must be doing this in the future.

 

- there is no way to know the total number of contacts in my contact book, something I could do in my 12 year old Symbian phone. In the future, I believe, numbers have no value.

 

- The BB10 OS is so advanced it doesn’t ship with a built in simple notes app. You have to use the built in heavy duty word processor app.

 

- the BB10 is so futuristic, the alarm clock doesn’t tell you how many hours before it goes off. Why bother with all the useless information. That was for 10 year old symbian devices.

 

- The BB10 Z10 is so advanced that it doesn’t care about SMTP Authentication. You must switch it off else randomly some mails never leave the phone. Of course, authentication is so outdated.

 

- The BB10 is so advanced that the top menu bar doesn’t show what’s the date and day of the week it is. Humans of the future have it embedded in their heads.

 

- the BB10 is so much into the future that apps don’t have the top menu bar, so while using an app if you need to see the time, battery or signal bevel, you have the leave the app. Wow! I feel like on a galactic mission already. -

 

- BB10 is so advanced that customers are not year ready for it. My BB shop guy told me customers want to return it for an iPhone

 

- The BB is such a progressive, advanced and global phone that if I bought it unlocked in London, I couldn’t access the updates in Thailand. Awesome. In the future we get more compartmentalised.

 

- And yes,its so futuristic, it doesn’t say which processor it’s using. The Snapdragon or the other one.

 

- The BB10 is so much into the future that it’s so damn difficult to figure out how to change the default colour and size of email text. The humans of the future cannot waste time on stupid details like these. After all, they need the time to watch their BBs boot from battery pulls. Sigh… I could go on…

why is bbry stock going up we said it was junk were we wrong i hope not.

Check out Palm's stock in between the time they announced their WebOS and Palm Pre to a little after they released their product. It's the wish that BB can make a comeback, not anything that can validated by facts.