Originally Posted by Gazoobee
I know you don't mean it, and by your previous comments on the forum it's probably just because you are incredibly old but … this is one offensive, sexist post.
Only "housewives" shop for groceries? (until some dude want to "pick up a girl" I guess)
I think you should leave the 1960's behind once in a while and think about what life is like today.
Exactly what is sexist about this? I think what is necessary is for you to join a reasonable discussion. The younger generation has grown up with absurd definitions of sexism and racism. I could be called a racist if a quote a statistic about a minority that seems unfavorable. I could be called a sexist for saying, "housewives like to shop for groceries." How is this sexist? Do you think it is sexist that military commercials depict three soldiers, two of whom are women, when the actual ratio of women to men in the military is nothing close to this? Housewives DO shop, and I challenge you to visit any Starbucks or Grocery store in the afternoon and put check marks next to men, women, and women of a particular age. You will find a disproportionate number of women who fit that description. Guess what? Housewives not only exist, but their existence does not preclude the existence of house husbands...yet the fact remains that housewives are a statistically relevant proportion. Do you deny that despite the self righteous "progressiveness" of our culture that housewives still outnumber househusbands by an obscene number? Are you going to ignore this...is it inconvenient to your world view? The other day my girlfriend and I (is it sexist to call her a girlfriend, since she is a woman?...) entered a Starbucks. By "the other day" I mean last Thursday. At 1pm. I counted 5 men, including myself. There were over thirty women...all of them middle aged. And no, it wasn't a cohesive group. They were out for the day. My girlfriend, who has a Masters in Social Work, said, "wow, look at all the housewives." I'm sorry..is that sexist? Should she have said, "wow, look at all the people who by pure chance happen to be predominantly middle aged women, many of whom have strollers, and are here during normal business hours"? Is that what she should have said?
First, you need to get beyond the idea that the word "Housewife" is equivalent to the "N" word. It is a descriptive term, and true of a very, very large portion of the population. Second, learn what sexism means. Sexism means drawing DEFINITE conclusions about the cognitive potential, proclivities and inclinations of a person based on sex. It's not sexism for me to say, "she probably won't work in construction." "SHE" probably won't. It's not sexism for me to say, "there are over thirty middle aged women in this Starbucks and only five men...the most likely scenario is not CHANCE. Chance is 50/50. Something is causing this. Only an idiot would shield his eyes to the most likely, most common cultural scenario...these women are here because they live or work at home. This is astronomically more likely than saying, "more women like to take a lunch break at Starbucks than men."
Facts are facts. By calling it sexist, you admit to having a negative opinion of Housewives. That's their choice. It's not a choice I would make if I were a woman, nor one my girlfriend would or has made, but it is their choice.
He was profiling...if there are disproportionate numbers of a particular gender or ethnic group in a given location, there's a reason. He wasn't casting judgement on the reason, and you, little boy, need to learn the difference. You need to learn that it's not "living in the sixties versus living in the self righteous we know everything because it just happens to be the present year." If profiling is wrong, why did you assume he was OLD? So...you're age bigotted? Is that what I should accuse you of?
Get over it. Housewives shop, hang out at the store, stand in the aisles, congregate at Starbucks with their strollers, and nothing you can do about it makes it good, bad, immoral, or sexist. There is a HUGE proportion of the population that is a housewife. Or...do you think women far outnumber men at grocery stores in the afternoon during working hours because all those women just happen to live closer to a grocery store by chance? Stop letting your superficial understanding of ideology wars make your observations for you. Open your eyes the next time you're in a Starbucks or grocery store during business hours on a weekday. Make your OWN observations. Do some very quick and easy research on google. Try to come up with another valid reason why there might be a disproportionate number of women at those places in the afternoon. Let me know what ridiculous thing you come up with.
The only person who brought judgment to the table is you. Take a good look in the mirror. No, it's not the sixties...and guess what? Women are still housewives a very large proportion of the time, and living closer to the grocery store than men is not a statistically sound observation. Get real. And please don't throw statistics about women in the workforce. The argument isn't, "women are usually housewives." The argument is, "women are still housewives far, far more often than men are, and this is a reasonable statistic to rely on when judging why there are thirty middle aged women to five men at a store in the afternoon."
Young people wield accusations of sexism and bigotry are like a kid with his father's gun. That thing is loaded, kid. Know what it is you're slinging around.