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China's government-controlled press continued its barrage against Apple on Monday, with a report calling the company's recent response to criticism over allegedly biased warranty policies "empty and self-praising."

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The People's Daily newspaper ran a front-page story deriding Apple's usual tight-lipped public relations procedures, which denied Chinese journalists' calls for interviews regarding a recent hit piece aired by the state-run China Central Television, reports The Wall Street Journal.

The television broadcast, seen by some as a smear campaign against Apple, accused the company of being "biased against Chinese consumers in its warranty and consumer service policies" by fixing faulty products instead of issuing new devices as it does in other countries.

After the piece aired, a number of Chinese notables voiced their outrage on the popular Weibo microblogging service. However, the anti-Apple messages were possibly orchestrated as a post by local celebrity Peter Ho included what appeared to be instructions on when to put up his vitriolic message.

Apple issued a response to the CCTV spot on its Chinese website, saying that it operates under China's rules and regulations.

"Apple's Chinese warranty is more or less the same as in the U.S. and all over the world," the statement said.

China is seen as a huge growth opportunity for Apple, so much so that the country was broken out as its own business segment for the first time ever in the company's latest quarterly conference call. The Greater China region saw revenues up 67 percent year over year and is expected to outperform the U.S. as Apple's biggest market in the coming months.
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It's amazing when a totalitarian regime supposedly wears the mantle of "the People's" anything.

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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post
It's amazing when a totalitarian regime supposedly wears the mantle of "the People's" anything.

 

And funny that many gravitate toward it… 

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It's amazing when a totalitarian regime supposedly wears the mantle of "the People's" anything.

 

I didn't know The Rock was from China.

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If a problem is corrected either way, I don't understand what the Chinese are complaining about here? Maybe time required for the fix? I've had to warranty return three items in the last two years: an iPad with the horrible light bleed issue, an iPhone with a bad cellular modem, and MacBook that suffered a mainboard fault after two months. All three times, Apple swapped my items out for new or possibly refurbish like-new replacements, which greatly reduced the turn around time. If Apple is instead choosing to repair the warrantied items instead of swapping them out, turn around time can be as long as a month. I'm sure whether an item is swapped out or repaired depends on many factors, which are weighed on a case by case basis, so I wonder what is making the Chinese feel they are being unfairly singled out for repairs versus swaps.
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China's government-controlled press continued its barrage against Apple on Monday, with a report calling the company's recent response to criticism over allegedly biased warranty policies "empty and self-praising.".

Still miffed about Foxconn Brazil, I see.
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It's amazing when a totalitarian regime supposedly wears the mantle of "the People's" anything.

It seems like a fairly typical and commonly used tactic. In many instances where people have evil intentions, they name their group or their cause to include words and phrases that mean the exact opposite of what they really are. 

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It's a shakedown.
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Propaganda is everywhere but the Chinese are definitely perfecting it to a T.
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It's amazing when a totalitarian regime supposedly wears the mantle of "the People's" anything.
It seems like a fairly typical and commonly used tactic. In many instances where people have evil intentions, they name their group or their cause to include words and phrases that mean the exact opposite of what they really are. 

Yep, like the 'Patriot Act'..... and to be an equal opportunity offender..... The 'Affordable Care Act'! ;-)
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Just another way to get bribes out of Apple to shut them up.

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post #13 of 30
Please stop talking geo-political issues. You all sound like a bunch of libertarian asshats.
post #14 of 30
The evil American company is treating the poor Chinese badly.
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This seems fairly similar to the campaign against Google in China that started up a couple years back. The Chinese government wants something from Apple and IMO it's more cooperation with the Chinese just as they pressured Google to do. If the negative articles suddenly disappear it may be a signal that Apple got the message about what it needs to do to be in their good graces.

This isn't like the Western press where there's broad freedom to report whatever the media wishes, true or not. In China there is no press freedom so whatever the ultimate goal is it's clear to me that it's being orchestrated by Chinese officials with an end game in mind.
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I didn't know The Rock was from China.

If any more actors are going to post fake messages online, they'd better know their roles or shut their mouths. If you can smellllllll... what Tim Cook is rocking!

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I don't know about anyone else but I'm my offices 'tech guy' so part of my job is taking non working iPhones and iPads into Apple for repair/replacement. I've taken 7 phones in over the past month and none of them were replaced. Just the defective parts.

And even if they are replaced its not like you are getting a shiny white box with new headphones etc. in fact many of those swapped phones are remanufactured which means they took the working parts out of previous swapped phones and frankensteined them into a new unit. Yum

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Seems that the Apple stores are just slapping the old back on a replacement phone, saying it was repaired, and circumventing the law that requires them to reset the  warranty on a replacement phone for another year.

 

I'm an Apple apologist as much as anyone, and can see the potential for serious abuse using the law.

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Yep, like the 'Patriot Act'..... and to be an equal opportunity offender..... The 'Affordable Care Act'! ;-)

Exactly! Two of the worst piece of legislation to come out of Washinton in decades. Sadly the Patriot Act is one of hose bipartisan boondoggles that has been used as a hammer against the people in the US with little good to come out of it fitting the enemy.

Sadly it seems to be lost on the government that you win wars by destroying the enemy, whipping them out, not by attacking your own people.
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Seems that the Apple stores are just slapping the old back on a replacement phone, saying it was repaired, and circumventing the law that requires them to reset the  warranty on a replacement phone for another year.

I'm an Apple apologist as much as anyone, and can see the potential for serious abuse using the law.

Where do you live?

In Apple's home country, no warranty from Apple or any other company gets a warranty reset on the replacement.

It's silly logic to expect a warranty reset, bc some people would purposely break their items to get a replacement and warranty reset.

I think this whole scandal is the Chinese government's attempt support domestic companies such as Lenovo, ZTE, etc....


The majority of mobile phones are made in China, but by foreign companies. The Chinese government wants the majority of mobile phones made in China AND by Chinese owned companies.

Also, the majority of countries with "Peoples'" or "Democratic" in their name are not places that I would want to live.
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Remember Tiananmen Square? China is far from a democracy. This kind of state-run propaganda is par for the course.
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China's state-controlled media is much like Iran.

Iran, whose media lies about everything from social problems to national defense. Also human rights abuses -- which occur everywhere, but especially inside China and Iran.

I certainly think something should be done about state-controlled media. Something serious needs to be done about it.
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I think this whole scandal is the Chinese government's attempt support domestic companies such as Lenovo, ZTE, etc....

The majority of mobile phones are made in China, but by foreign companies. The Chinese government wants the majority of mobile phones made in China AND by Chinese owned companies.

Yes, you're hitting on China's problem.

The China  Gov WANTS  to be the most powerful organization  in China.   Apple threatens that Gov power.

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Remember Tiananmen Square? China is far from a democracy. This kind of state-run propaganda is par for the course.


I heard Hugo Chavez was a communist, according to the free Western press.  A very "Red" communist, just like the regime which put down that peaceful Tiananmen Square demonstration... 24 years ago.  "Democracy Now!" was their slogan, right?  (How does one say that in Mandarin?)

 

They meant it too.  Everything would have been better by converting, or "opening up", to a Western model of Freedom and business practices.

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The people of a country with so many human rights violations are probably less interested in protecting consumers than trying to make an illegitimate buck off a legitimate company.
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I think this is all much ado about nothing.

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post #27 of 30
This issue only occurred after the Chinese government became aware of a translation error in training documentation for Apple's Chinese Genius staff. In the documentation the word "part" was accidentally misprinted as "party":
 
"If the Chinese party is found to be faulty, and fails to function as designed, remove it, place the faulty Chinese party in indefinite storage to be disposed of later, and replace it with a party from America."
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post #28 of 30
Read this - it would seem to be an underhanded and orchestrated campaign by the Chinese Government to protect its own industry. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/25/chinese-press-digs-into-apple-over-response-to-warranty-practices-criticism
post #29 of 30
We manufacture your stuff, you want a stab at our market, you put up with our crap. Sounds like a strategy.
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