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In a highly suggestive invitation to an April 4 event sent out on Thursday, Facebook welcomes media to "Come See Our New Home On Android," hinting the social networking monolith will finally reveal a much-rumored purpose-built operating system.

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Citing sources familiar with the matter, TechCrunch says the Facebook OS will be a platform built on Android, with deep integration possibly baked into an HTC-manufactured smartphone. Speculation of a true Facebook-developed phone have been floating around for some time, though such a device has yet to appear.

According to sources, the unannounced mobile solution won't be a complete rewrite of Android, but a "flavor" with high-level Facebook integration and a UI reminiscent of the company's iOS app. Rumors point to easy account access throughout the system, including the possibility of a home screen with news feed updates and access to Facebook-connected apps.

The publication notes additional clues regarding the presentation's schedule hint to a substantial announcement, as the April 4 event begins at 10 a.m. Pacific with shuttles heading back to San Francisco leaving Facebook's Menlo Park headquarters three hours later.

The company has recently bolstered its Messenger and flagship Facebook for iOS apps to support VoIP calling in North America and parts of Europe, possibly in an effort to create a strong communications base on which to launch the new OS.
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nope. still holding out for the pets.com phone/os/bidet.
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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

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How does is compute to an Facebook OS? Secondly, what would it even mean? Like Solipsismx said, every service will have their OS.
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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?


Their problem on mobile is revenue generation. So perhaps they have decided the only way to control this and not give up any revenue to Apple is to *own* the OS.

 

On a side note, this will vindicate MG Siegler, who has been predicting a Facebook smartphone as long as Gene Munster has been telling us about an Apple TV.

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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

 

Well, maybe their "new home on Android" is just a new Android app. I'd very much doubt they'd release anything branded "Android" because that would mean sharing all their user data with Google.

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A phone using Google AND Facebook technology? A privacy dream come true!
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Their problem on mobile is revenue generation. So perhaps they have decided the only way to control this and not give up any revenue to Apple is to *own* the OS.

On a side note, this will vindicate MG Siegler, who has been predicting a Facebook smartphone as long as Gene Munster has been telling us about an Apple TV.

I understand their motivation, I just don't understand how they think has a chance of succeeding.


PS: This reminds me of when I was 8yo and tried to build an airplane with my tool kit that consisted of a saw, hammer, screwdriver and some nails. Not a model airplane, mind you, but one that I could fly around the neighborhood. The wings were shorter than arms outstretched with no aerodynamic features to create lift on the wings or a means of propulsion.

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How does is compute to an Facebook OS? Secondly, what would it even mean? Like Solipsismx said, every service will have their OS.

 

...and this is how the Android crumbles.

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It was pretty obvious this was coming eventually, what with FB buying up so many talented small shops. Oh yeah, I hate Facebook.

 

I know what they should called it: adOS

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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

 

Facebook MUST find a way to start making money. So this makes perfect sense,

 

There are those who live most of their lives on Facebook. What better way to enable them than to give them a Facebook integrated phone, that leverages their friends and family contacts directly into the phone directory? This might actually be the shot in the arm Facebook has been looking for ...

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I know what they should called it: adOS

The way I see social media sites it should be called Fad OS.

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The way I see social media sites it should be called Fad OS.

 

Yes, it's a fad, but it's got 1B users. Facebook has a fair lock in going on. Their platform idea worked a bit too well.

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Facebook MUST find a way to start making money.

 

They are making money.

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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

It's just going to be another forked version of Android. Question is are they going to have their own app store like Amazon?
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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

 

As much as I hate Facebook, and I hate them a lot, your argument is abysmal. Facebook is already a platform and lots on people literally spend their lives on Facebook. A Facebook OS for mobile devices? Shock horror. This is as predicable as things come. A forking Android was another no brainier.

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It's just going to be another forked version of Android. Question is are they going to have their own app store like Amazon?

 

They probably will.

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Well, maybe their "new home on Android" is just a new Android app. I'd very much doubt they'd release anything branded "Android" because that would mean sharing all their user data with Google.

Color me skeptical, too.

 

When you fork Android, it's not officially Android anymore, afaik. For example, does Amazon mention Android much? 

 

Second, regardless of what this is, why tip the Android hand at all? Perhaps this is a a collaboration between the two companies.

 

Third, Facebook is too smart to go down a path where they control only a fraction (however large) of the smartphone market, and risk being irrelevant in the rest. It doesn't make sense even if they take over Samsung's entire marketshare of Android. This is more likely an Android offering that will be available to all/most Android phones.

 

One more guess - Andy Rubin has given up reins of Android. Perhaps Google is handing them over to Zuckerberg. ;)


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They are making money.

I think he meant on mobile. Last I checked there aren't any ads on FB's mobile apps. More and more people are solely using Facebook on their mobile devices which was supposed to supplement desktop usage not replace it.
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How does is compute to an Facebook OS? Secondly, what would it even mean? Like Solipsismx said, every service will have their OS.

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Oh great, my two favorite things combined and rolled up into one beautiful and highly effective synergy, Facebook and Android.lol.gif

 

I can't stand either Facebook or Android, my dislike for both of them combined can not be described by mere words.1smoking.gif

 

And who would hire somebody with a Facebook phone? That tells you right there that the person is a real loser, somebody who probably can't go more than a few minutes without checking in on all of the "action" that is taking place in their fake, virtual world. It sounds highly unproductive.

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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

Well, maybe their "new home on Android" is just a new Android app. I'd very much doubt they'd release anything branded "Android" because that would mean sharing all their user data with Google.

I too think this is all it is.
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I understand their motivation, I just don't understand how they think has a chance of succeeding.


PS: This reminds me of when I was 8yo and tried to build an airplane with my tool kit that consisted of a saw, hammer, screwdriver and some nails. Not a model airplane, mind you, but one that I could fly around the neighborhood. The wings were shorter than arms outstretched with no aerodynamic features to create lift on the wings or a means of propulsion.

That is so funny...I did the same thing. A "plane" totally built out three 2x4's.

 

It was only a plane in my imagination! :)

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Google/Android is a dogshit business model.

 

And they are about to find that out for themselves.

 

Samsung is about to screw them silly! :)

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So a company that can't make a simple iOS app that doesn't suck wants to make an entire operating system.
Priceless.
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No thanks.
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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

Because the barriers to entry are very low... and Microsoft's is at its absolute weakest in this market in terms of influence and marketshare. These guys could've just as easily forked Linux to create a Facebook PC OS, but no one would use it because of Windows' near universal dominance there, with Mac OS X grabbing the rest of the non-Windows pie.

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I say it is a new Android App for two reasons. First, Facebook hates Google, and Facebook can't call an OS Android, like it does in the announcement, unless Facebook uses Google services. For instance, Amazon doesn't refer to its Android forked OS as Android anywhere. There was a story months ago Facebook was encouraging employees to dump iOS phones to buy Android phones so that the employees could improve its Android Apps.

Second, this would piss off Apple and Microsoft too much. Both companies have allowed Facebook OS integrated access to their platforms, something denied Google. I doubt Facebook would risk that when the likely hood of success is slim.

Facebook needs to be more like Netflix: platform neutral.
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Apple and Samsung have been dominating mobile. Facebook wants a piece of the action. HTC will manufacture the phone but it will be sold by Facebook. They also have the advertising muscle to make it popular.
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Why are some of you struggling to understand why Facebook is doing this?! Isn't it obvious?

 

The have a good chance at dominating the Android market and generating large sums of cash. 

 

You may hate Facebook, but that does not take away from the fact that this will probably be the best business decision Facebook ever made.

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The ad says New Home ON Android.  It doesn't say Facebook Android OS, did it?

Are you guys sure that Facebook is going to come out with their own version of an Android OS?  That's not what I got from the invitation.

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Samsung customizes Android with its Touchwiz UI layer. Facebook will likely do the same thing. If you want deep Facebook integration on your smartphone you have to get the Facebook phone. The Facebook.app will be available on Android and iOS but will not be as integrated.
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Thank god. Now all the little tweens who keep posting that Apple isn't "koool" and "it's for old people, man" will have a place to go and "face", and pop their bubblegum bubbles.

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Priceless.

 

At least, that's all they could get out of it.

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Actually, what is ridiculous is that Facebook doesn't yet have a phone out yet. They have the best communication platform in the world, with the best and most popular contact management system ever.
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Reminds me of the ATF fiasco whereby American guns sold to Mexican cartels are used to shoot Americans/ATF agents.

So Google makes Android, which Facebook will use to compete against...Google. Wow, what a great business idea.
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Does this mean Apple will drop Facebook integration in the iPhone like they did with Google Maps?  

 

Ping was a major failure.  I hope they don't get any ideas of their own is creating a Facebook competitor.

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Originally Posted by MacTel View Post
Does this mean Apple will drop Facebook integration in the iPhone like they did with Google Maps?  

 

YES, PLEASE DO, APPLE. ALSO TWITTER.

 

And then just allow an API whereby an app can add its relevant options to those popup (guess they're overlays now, huh?) menus OS-wide. BUT also allow the user to turn them off selectively, even if they have the app in question. 

 

It's a win-win. People who couldn't care less about this crap never have to see it EVER, and other apps that might want space (or would benefit from space) in those Apple app menus can have them.

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I think it is all about capturing mobile ad revenue.  So basically, Facebook forks Android like Amazon did and gets the advertising and app store revenue.  Between Facebook, Amazon, and Samsung, I would think Google is pretty worried about now.  Time for Google stock to crash.

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Why are some of you struggling to understand why Facebook is doing this?! Isn't it obvious?

 

The have a good chance at dominating the Android market and generating large sums of cash. 

 

You may hate Facebook, but that does not take away from the fact that this will probably be the best business decision Facebook ever made.


I presume you're kidding because, otherwise, you are wrong on all counts:

 

- It's not obvious.

- They do not have a good chance at dominating Android market.

- It would be the worst decision Facebook ever made.

 

But, as I said, you are kidding.

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