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Facebook needs to be more like Netflix: platform neutral.

It helps that Netflix collects at least $8 a month from millions of customers.

It sounds like Facebook developing its own mobile OS to finally make some money from its mobile users.
post #42 of 106
And it isn't even April 1st yet.

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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?
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Facebook MUST find a way to start making money. So this makes perfect sense,

There are those who live most of their lives on Facebook. What better way to enable them than to give them a Facebook integrated phone, that leverages their friends and family contacts directly into the phone directory? This might actually be the shot in the arm Facebook has been looking for ...

Will that bring profits? I guess there's no good model to compare to, because no other social media service of note has tried to offer a phone. Amazon would make sense before Facebook because they can use the device to sell their media, which they need since their standby model of selling physical media is waning. I think it's also a question of what FB users will do in reaction to this, if it happens. I think they would need to argue a benefit to make it worth switching phones. There's a question of how well the device will add value to the service, or how well the service will add value to the device.

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Their problem on mobile is revenue generation. So perhaps they have decided the only way to control this and not give up any revenue to Apple is to *own* the OS.

On a side note, this will vindicate MG Siegler, who has been predicting a Facebook smartphone as long as Gene Munster has been telling us about an Apple TV.

First, I need to know this: Is Facebook actually giving any revenue to Apple, or is this just an assumption?

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They are making money.

Sure, but how many micro pennies on the dollar is that? I'm guessing nowhere near what shareholders are going to expect as the months and years roll on.
post #44 of 106
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This is getting ridiculous. I can at least understand why Amazon, who has had the Kindle for years, and Mozilla would want to make a mobile OS, but Facebook is just a bit daft. Who's next, Dropbox OS and GoDaddy OS?

 

It seems to me we're really in unchartered territory.  As much as I dislike advertising, I'm happy to see Facebook jump into the arena.  As others have pointed out, they have 1B users, and presumably some of them will like the idea of a FB phone.  I see it as threatening Google, since Google and FB compete so fiercely for eyeballs and advertising dollars.  But does it threaten Apple?  I don't see it.  I see it as just that much more fragmentation of Android which I quite like.  (It's starting to resemble fractals in my imagination.)

 

And one more thing:  M$ still likes to think that their OS is valuable.  But Android/Linux is free and Windows Phone offers very few extra valuable features.  So I see a FB phone as even more evidence that M$ is quickly becoming a has-been.  Brave new world!

post #45 of 106
The "FacePhone" would have one major selling point - you might never have to dial or type an email address again. Hell they could even market it as your social advisor.

Never underestimate the willingness of the public at large to give up vast amounts of their privacy and security for convenience.
post #46 of 106

Facebook execs are stupid.  Facebook is not going to make money by selling the hardware.  How many Facebook users do they expect will switch to using this phone?  Facebook will end up serving two groups of members.  They can not make the services drastically different.  Further, I can not see what significant services that Facebook can not deliver to iPhone users.  

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Never underestimate the willingness of the public at large to give up vast amounts of their privacy and security for convenience.

 

Those who sacrifice privacy/security for convenience deserves neither.

post #48 of 106
This seems colossally stupid.
post #49 of 106

When is Kayak coming out with an OS and phone?  And Angry Birds? 
 

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I presume you're kidding because, otherwise, you are wrong on all counts:

 

- It's not obvious.

- They do not have a good chance at dominating Android market.

- It would be the worst decision Facebook ever made.

 

But, as I said, you are kidding.

Just remember this post in a few years...

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I have an excellent idea.  Apple could modify its iOS to allow customers to customize the UI to whatever they like.  So Facebook can provide not just apps but UIs to its members to modify iPhone/iPad.  Apple will still provide whatever service that Facebook choose to keep.  User can go to Facebook.com to convert his iPhone to Facebook iPhone or to Amazon.com to convert to Amazon iPhone.  When he gets tired he can convert it to other iPhones easily.  


Edited by tzeshan - 3/28/13 at 10:51pm
post #52 of 106
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Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post

Facebook MUST find a way to start making money. So this makes perfect sense,

There are those who live most of their lives on Facebook. What better way to enable them than to give them a Facebook integrated phone, that leverages their friends and family contacts directly into the phone directory? This might actually be the shot in the arm Facebook has been looking for ...
Nonsense - FB users already can do this through iOS and the FB app - this makes no sense and will be a big flop. The reality is that people are tiring of Facebook and visiting lit less and less. It is becoming a complicated over- commercialized cluster FK dominated by people with a lot of time to kill.
post #53 of 106

Perhaps what Apple did with iOS - making a Twitter framework that you sign in to once and all apps use - perhaps they have made a similar thing for Android. I doubt they would do their own OS, even if just an Android fork, that is a massive undertaking.

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And it is going to play Farmville and Mafia Wars, right? Without that, how can it ever succeed... 1smile.gif
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all your data belong to us...
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Most probably just an Android phone with a Facebook skin. I don't believe they're going to be doing any serious work to build their own operating system, even using  Android as a base.

 

Another Android phone, basically.

post #57 of 106
Stupid idea.

Hopefully they didn't invest too much into this pre-flop.

Facebook makes money currently from ad revenue.

And they're doing alright.

They just want to be google. Own everyone's info.

But most people don't want every detail of their computing life owned by a company known for "accidents."
post #58 of 106

They've already released 'Facebook' phones.  One was the HTC Status, a Blackberry lookalike with a dedicated Facebook button...  It will likely just be another phone with a bit of Facebook branding and integration.  Or it could even just be another app...  

 

Facebook doesn't need to release their own OS, it would be more of a headache than it would be worth it...

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Oh great, my two favorite things combined and rolled up into one beautiful and highly effective synergy, Facebook and Android.lol.gif

 

I can't stand either Facebook or Android, my dislike for both of them combined can not be described by mere words.1smoking.gif

 

And who would hire somebody with a Facebook phone? That tells you right there that the person is a real loser, somebody who probably can't go more than a few minutes without checking in on all of the "action" that is taking place in their fake, virtual world. It sounds highly unproductive.


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post #60 of 106
Could be a replacement app launcher with a very interactive homepage... kind of like HTC's Blinkfeed, but focused around Facebook actions.

If they were smart, they'd also have a nice tablet version that took advantage of the extra screen space.

Such an always-there Facebook launcher could be quite popular, and sell a lot of phones and tablets. Heck, it'd be great for grandparents wanting to keep up with their families.

(I've always thought that Flipboard should do this.)
Edited by KDarling - 3/29/13 at 2:44am
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Could be a replacement app launcher with a very interactive homepage... kind of like HTC's Blinkfeed, but focused around Facebook actions.

Hmmm... that would also give new "home" on Android a double meaning.

post #62 of 106

But I thought Android fans preferred stock Android and not these custom skins like Sense, TocuhWiz, etc.

post #63 of 106
I think it makes sense.
Using the iOS app I've many times been thinking to myself "yep, this is what the Facebook phone OS will be like".. It doesn't even have to deal with sms, mms, app stores or anything. It's just Facebook.. and they have it all under one roof. It'll probably be free and ad based. *shrug*
post #64 of 106
Finally! FacebookOS, with all the stability of windows, the privacy of gmail, and twice the ads as the last half hour of a major sporting event. I for one happily await the twice each morning ritual of tryin to find the new privacy settings.
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post #65 of 106
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Because the barriers to entry are very low... and Microsoft's is at its absolute weakest in this market in terms of influence and marketshare. These guys could've just as easily forked Linux to create a Facebook PC OS, but no one would use it because of Windows' near universal dominance there, with Mac OS X grabbing the rest of the non-Windows pie.

Talking about the walking dead aka Microsoft, I am still half expecting Microsoft to throw in the towel and fork Android themselves so as to have any footprint that's measurable on the mobile OS arena.
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post #66 of 106
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I have an excellent idea.  Apple could modify its iOS to allow customers to customize the UI to whatever they like.  So Facebook can provide not just apps but UIs to its members to modify iPhone/iPad.  Apple will still provide whatever service that Facebook choose to keep.  User can go to Facebook.com to convert his iPhone to Facebook iPhone or to Amazon.com to convert to Amazon iPhone.  When he gets tired he can convert it to other iPhones easily.  

While not dismissing the idea, however much it makes my skin crawl (but that's a personal view from someone who avoids full blown social networking) ... I'd love to sit in on a meeting where Jony Ive is discussing his new concepts for a flatter iOS and OS X when someone suggests this ...
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post #67 of 106
How many incompatible versions of Android will there be? Google will have to come up with the Android VM for smart phones so users can decide which Android OS to run to execute the app they want.
post #68 of 106
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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post


It helps that Netflix collects at least $8 a month from millions of customers.

It sounds like Facebook developing its own mobile OS to finally make some money from its mobile users.

 

Why do you guys keep saying Facebook doesn't make money from its Mobile customers? All the so called experts called Facebook's Quarter strong because it netted $64 million on 1.6 billion of revenue. It beat market expectations by 40 percent, and 23 percent of it's earnings were from Mobile Advertising, which was up 14 percent in the previous quarter. Check it out.

 

Further, a forked Mobile OS will stink because it will be based on old versions of Android. I also don't think the amount of users Facebook has is relevant to whether this decision is smart. I have four Facebook accounts. Two for business, and two personal one's I never use. The first one I opened in a fake name just so I could check out stupid photos people would want me to see. 

post #69 of 106
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The "FacePhone" would have one major selling point - you might never have to dial or type an email address again. Hell they could even market it as your social advisor.

Never underestimate the willingness of the public at large to give up vast amounts of their privacy and security for convenience.

100% Agree.

Here in Germany we have some of the most strict personal data privacy laws in the world, that every organization and business must respect... with almost no exceptions.

The German people on the other hand, and especially the "old-enough-to-know-better-and-they-voted-for-these-laws" crowd... is amazing me with their complete acceptance and willful sharing of just about everything in their lives over Facebook. For many, Facebook IS the internet these days.

You would think that I'm against facebook... while i don't use it personally... for many older clients of mine... I think it is the better and SAFER alternative than for example email and clicking through phishing ads, etc.

It's my job... and all you other technically inclined folks with parents, grandparents, etc... to help these people set up a modicum of security on Facebook.

Believe me, it's a heck of a lot easier than trying to reinstall a malware, rooted, virus-infested PeeCee!

Pro Tip: set 'em up with secure settings in Facebook... and then sell 'em an iPad! No-More-Pee-Cee™ 1cool.gif

Added: I stated a year ago that I think Google will eventually stop adding to the Open Source side of the Android project. Well this year almost for sure if the trend of developing Android just adds features for the "F*or*ckers" with no benefit to Google i.e ad revenue.

Considering that Google is hell-bent on cleaning house and focusing, at some point don't they have to consider whether the high cost of developing Android is worth it?
Edited by ThePixelDoc - 3/29/13 at 5:58am
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post #70 of 106

Weather app will send push notifications of the weather where all your friends are.

 

*Shake to NOT post* technology.

 

Deep integration with app and game invitations.

 

All photos automatically run through latest trending Instagram filters for your convenience.

 

Facial recognition technology to unlock phone but will only recognize duckfaces. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OMG WHERE CAN I GET THIS

post #71 of 106
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I have an excellent idea.  Apple could modify its iOS to allow customers to customize the UI to whatever they like.  So Facebook can provide not just apps but UIs to its members to modify iPhone/iPad.  Apple will still provide whatever service that Facebook choose to keep.  User can go to Facebook.com to convert his iPhone to Facebook iPhone or to Amazon.com to convert to Amazon iPhone.  When he gets tired he can convert it to other iPhones easily.  /s

There. Fixed it for ya.
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While not dismissing the idea, however much it makes my skin crawl (but that's a personal view from someone who avoids full blown social networking) ... I'd love to sit in on a meeting where Jony Ive is discussing his new concepts for a flatter iOS and OS X when someone suggests this ...

This will release two big criticisms of Apple one being too controlling the other being iOS UI have not changed since beginning.  Apple will start giving user CHOICE.  And the responsibility will be the user and companies like Facebook or Amazon, or News Corp, or ...

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But I thought Android fans preferred stock Android and not these custom skins like Sense, TocuhWiz, etc.

That's only the Android fans. The other 90% of Android users, don't even know what Android is... or even care. Ask Samsung.
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Weather app will send push notifications of the weather where all your friends are.

*Shake to NOT post* technology.

Deep integration with app and game invitations.

All photos automatically run through latest trending Instagram filters for your convenience.

Facial recognition technology to unlock phone but will only recognize duckfaces. 






OMG WHERE CAN I GET THIS

1biggrin.gif Good one... especially "Duck Faces" 1tongue.gif
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100% Agree.

...For many, Facebook IS the internet these days...

This reminds me of AOL. Back in its day, it was the Internet for all who used it.
post #76 of 106
$12/yr subscriptions. That'd likely be way more they need to run operations even after lots of people drop it because they won't pay. Of course, they'd be leaving money on the table from people who might have paid more, and not getting anything from markets where they can't accept payments, and they'd have been better off doing this before going public, and therefore not worried about how a declining subscriber count would affect share price.
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Edited by MacRulez - 7/23/13 at 9:47am
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Those who sacrifice privacy/security for convenience deserves neither.

Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both.

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While not dismissing the idea, however much it makes my skin crawl (but that's a personal view from someone who avoids full blown social networking) ... I'd love to sit in on a meeting where Jony Ive is discussing his new concepts for a flatter iOS and OS X when someone suggests this ...

Can I have a Youtube video of that meeting?

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While not dismissing the idea, however much it makes my skin crawl (but that's a personal view from someone who avoids full blown social networking) ... I'd love to sit in on a meeting where Jony Ive is discussing his new concepts for a flatter iOS and OS X when someone suggests this ...


Does your skin crawl seeing a Mac running Windows OS?

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