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It was reported on Tuesday that Apple and Yahoo are reportedly in talks regarding how to better integrate the search company's various services into iOS, building on existing features like sports scores and weather information.

While Apple already uses data from Yahoo Finance, weather and sports stats to power various first-party apps, including its Siri virtual assistant, sources tell The Wall Street Journal that the two companies are looking to expand their partnership.

Yahoo on iOS
Examples of Yahoo data on iOS.


According to a person familiar with the discussions, data from Yahoo News and other Yahoo Web properties could be "preloaded" onto Apple's iOS devices, with much of the focus being directed toward Siri functionality. Currently, Yahoo's presence on iOS is limited to the Stocks app, the Weather app, a search option in mobile Safari and sports scores as accessed through Siri.

The Journal points out that no concrete deals have been made and the talks are still their early stages.

Although speculation, Apple could potentially be looking to further deprecate Google integration in iOS, replacing existing services with those from Yahoo. With iOS 6, Apple made clear that it is looking to expel Google from first-party apps, as the company deprecated the search giant's data from the Maps app and removed the built-in YouTube app, both of which were iOS mainstays since 2007.
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Well Jony and Marissa are BF now so maybe that's how this got started. 1wink.gif

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Maybe if Apple bought Yahoo they could make quite an interesting future together.

iYahoo?
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Well Jony and Marissa are BF now so maybe that's how this got started. 1wink.gif

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Would you say they're deeply integrated?

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Maybe if Apple bought Yahoo they could make quite an interesting future together.

iYahoo?

I think Apple is better off partnering with them. I would like to see Yahoo! make a comeback, especially at the hands of Mrs. Mayer.

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Apple didn't ditch YouTube to spite Google (as it did with Maps). Google wasn't interested in providing videos without ads, and terminated its iOS deal in order to launch its own YouTube app.

It's also noteworthy that Yahoo is on Apple's short list of internet accounts (with Gmail, MS Exchange & AOL) and sharing services in OS X (which includes Yahoo's Flickr but not Google Picassa, and Vimeo but not YouTube, Facebook & Twitter but not G ).

OS X & iOS 6 don't currently allow 3rd parties to add support for their own "sharing sheets." This may change this year as the system matures, or it may be Apple's way of pushing exclusive support agreements.

Compare the fact that Apple lets Safari users search via Google, Bing or Yahoo but not any other search engine of their choosing (and Google pays Apple millions for this traffic).
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Would you say they're deeply integrated?
lol I don't know but the look on Mrs. Ive's face is...interesting. 1tongue.gif
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…(and Google pays Apple millions for this traffic).

The last report I heard was Google paying Apple an estimated $1 billion per year going forward.

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Has Apple not learned from Tom-Tom that partnering up with second-rate companies does not make for a first rate product? The only time Yahoo was relevant was back in the day when it used Google as its search engine. Now it's just rehashed news and the birthplace of trolls sadly.
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Apple didn't ditch YouTube to spite Google (as it did with Maps). Google wasn't interested in providing videos without ads, and terminated its iOS deal in order to launch its own YouTube app.
god I hate the YouTube app now. Every time I pull a video up I have to wait 5 seconds to skip an ad. I also hate that there's no volume controls on screen, nor the ability to go back or forward 30 seconds.
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Has Apple not learned from Tom-Tom that partnering up with second-rate companies does not make for a first rate product? The only time Yahoo was relevant was back in the day when it used Google as its search engine. Now it's just rehashed news and the birthplace of trolls sadly.
I use Bing search engine quite a bit and I don't find it lacking compared to Google. Partnering with Apple would force Yahoo to get better.

What blows my mind is how many people seem perfectly fine with (or even want) Google to have a monopoly when it comes to services. People whine and moan about how important competition is except when it comes to Google. Very hypocritical.
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god I hate the YouTube app now. Every time I pull a video up I have to wait 5 seconds to skip an ad. I also hate that there's no volume controls on screen, nor the ability to go back or forward 30 seconds.

What's the benefit of the app over the web browser? I've never installed the YouTube app and can't recall having a problem with it.

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What's the benefit of the app over the web browser? I've never installed the YouTube app and can't recall having a problem with it.
I've never had luck getting high quality video using YouTube on Safari. Google maps doesn't work for me on Safari either.
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I don't like Google proper, but their Search is superior to Bing and Yahoo. Perhaps it's just my familiarity with Google Search.

 

However, if Apple and Yahoo try something, I will give it a go.

 

Again, I dislike everything Google.

 

:)

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Mrs Meyer is pretty awesome. If anyone could turn around Yahoo it would be her.
That being said, I would like to be able to use DDGo as my default search. Maybe this year we will be able to.
Not a big fan of using a separate app for everything.
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Well Jony and Marissa are BF now so maybe that's how this got started. 1wink.gif

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Would you say they're deeply integrated?

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Maybe if Apple bought Yahoo they could make quite an interesting future together.

iYahoo?

I think Apple is better off partnering with them. I would like to see Yahoo! make a comeback, especially at the hands of Mrs. Mayer.

I think I agree...

My exposure dates back to 1997 when I did web sites -- and tried to optimize them for various search engines...

I always admired the pros who were comfortable referring to themselves as 'Yahoos', doing an excellent job and having fun in the process.

Currently, I use Siri a lot for sports (provided by Yahoo) and it works extremely well. I can sit in front of a blaring TV (with grandkids arguing in the background) -- press the home button my iPad and say things like:
• "NBA Today"
• "NHL Standings"
• "Lakers Game"

Almost without fail, I get the results I want!


Siri "The Lakers were defeated by the Clippers last Sunday; the score was 109-95."
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Almost without fail, I get the results I want!


Siri "The Lakers were defeated by the Clippers last Sunday; the score was 109-95."

I wanted that result too.
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Almost without fail, I get the results I want!


Siri "The Lakers were defeated by the Clippers last Sunday; the score was 109-95."

I wanted that result too.

No! I have been a [Minneapolis] Laker fan since 1949... My fav player, this year is Westbrook of the Thunder... Would trade Kobe for him!
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despite how deep inside that chick Ive might be, still a bad idea, yahoo is over.

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despite how deep inside that chick Ive might be, still a bad idea, yahoo is over.

I can remember, not too long ago, when Apple was over...
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Has Apple not learned from Tom-Tom that partnering up with second-rate companies does not make for a first rate product? The only time Yahoo was relevant was back in the day when it used Google as its search engine. Now it's just rehashed news and the birthplace of trolls sadly.

That's a pretty good description... for now.  But I think changes may be afoot.

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I use Bing search engine quite a bit and I don't find it lacking compared to Google. Partnering with Apple would force Yahoo to get better.

What blows my mind is how many people seem perfectly fine with (or even want) Google to have a monopoly when it comes to services. People whine and moan about how important competition is except when it comes to Google. Very hypocritical.

I've tried Bing.  Maybe it's bad luck, but I never seem to get a decent result.  I give Bing a serious try about every year and so far its been meh.

Google is free and gives me the best results.  Why not use it?

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I'd be totally fine with this and lead the charge to cheer it on except for the fact that Yahoo! Weather is hopelessly incorrect, both in iOS and the Dashboard. I can only assume this inaccuracy extends to the rest of its services, so it'd be great if they could fix that sometime.

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I don't like Google proper, but their Search is superior to Bing and Yahoo. Perhaps it's just my familiarity with Google Search.

 

However, if Apple and Yahoo try something, I will give it a go.

 

Again, I dislike everything Google.

 

:)

Yeah. I keep trying to use Yahoo. But I always end up going back to the goog.

 

yahoo knows "what time it is". Either they're going to make some changes, or they're going to go down for the count.

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That's a pretty good description... for now.  But I think changes may be afoot.

Agreed.  The question is where will Yahoo be in a year or two from now?  

It actually might make sense for Apple to make their maps available through Yahoo.  Yahoo maps suck and Apple needs a website to launch its web based maps.  They should make a cool app for Flikr users to geocode their pictures and add points of interest to Apple maps.  An iOS device may be the best way to view a map, but a web interface is better for entering data and using pictures as the input would be a great way to find out where people do things.

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I've tried Bing.  Maybe it's bad luck, but I never seem to get a decent result.  I give Bing a serious try about every year and so far its been meh.
Google is free and gives me the best results.  Why not use it?
Hmm...I didn't know there were pay search engines. At least I've never used one. Anyway, anyone who has an iOS device can search google all they want so I don't see what the issue is.
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I can remember, not too long ago, when Apple was over...

I agree, but Apple turning things around isn't really the norm (1 in a million), I don't see it happening again with 'Yahoo', companies that where around for a lot longer & were a bigger deal in their own industry have fallen & never recovered.
people all over the net talk about how much they loved their nokia phones, yet their sales are in the toilet. 

Myspace is being overhauled, but will it make it back?, what if they offered iOS integration?. 

 

 

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I'd be totally fine with this and lead the charge to cheer it on except for the fact that Yahoo! Weather is hopelessly incorrect, both in iOS and the Dashboard. I can only assume this inaccuracy extends to the rest of its services, so it'd be great if they could fix that sometime.

 

 

So so true!!!, haha, in Australia, Yahoo weather isn't even close sometimes, its easier for us to go to the bureau of meteorology & check there.  


Edited by Zozman - 4/9/13 at 9:32pm
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I see this as bad news and believe it is a main reason we can not replace yahoos weather widget with one from a different weather app. It's prime real-estate, the notification center, and apple wants to sign exclusive deals with high paying clients.
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Wow, here's hoping the Apple-Google feud doesn't result in Yahoo being the exclusive search provider of the iPhone... The weather app is a big enough turd.

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god I hate the YouTube app now. Every time I pull a video up I have to wait 5 seconds to skip an ad. I also hate that there's no volume controls on screen, nor the ability to go back or forward 30 seconds.

I've honestly never gotten an ad on the YouTube app - maybe it's a US only thing? Or maybe you need to sign into your gmail account to get rid of ads?

 

In terms of volume controls, there are 2 buttons on the edge of your phone you can use, and you can go back or forward by dragging the playhead underneath the video. Really, onscreen volume controls are unnecessary, and dedicated buttons to skip forward and back 30 seconds would also be pretty superfluous.

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I've honestly never gotten an ad on the YouTube app - maybe it's a US only thing? Or maybe you need to sign into your gmail account to get rid of ads?
Nup, we get the same kind of ads with the new YouTube app.
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Maybe if Apple bought Yahoo they could make quite an interesting future together.

iYahoo?

 

I agree.  They overlap in eMail but other than that, Yahoo is a perfect fit to boost Apple's Web Services and Yahoo has solid technology.

 

At $26 Billion, Yahoo is not cheap and it would take time for Apple to fully integrate all their services.  

I suspect Apple will continue and augment the partnership instead of buying Yahoo.

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I don't like Google proper, but their Search is superior to Bing and Yahoo. Perhaps it's just my familiarity with Google Search.

However, if Apple and Yahoo try something, I will give it a go.

Again, I dislike everything Google.

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I've tried Bing.  Maybe it's bad luck, but I never seem to get a decent result.  I give Bing a serious try about every year and so far its been meh.
Google is free and gives me the best results.  Why not use it?

True. I keep trying to like it, too. Have you tried the bingiton site?
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I'd be totally fine with this and lead the charge to cheer it on except for the fact that Yahoo! Weather is hopelessly incorrect, both in iOS and the Dashboard. I can only assume this inaccuracy extends to the rest of its services, so it'd be great if they could fix that sometime.

Odd. I've never noticed it being that off. Use it daily. Y! pulls their data from The Weather Channel, so I would think the issue would be with them. Have you noticed differences comparing the two? I just did and a degree off though the hourly is the same.
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Odd. I've never noticed it being that off. Use it daily. Y! pulls their data from The Weather Channel, so I would think the issue would be with them. Have you noticed differences comparing the two?

 

I've noticed far greater differences between Yahoo! and what I know my local weather to be and the latter and WeatherUnderground, for example.

 

Yahoo! can be up to ten degrees off the current temperature, and it consistently puts weather events too far out (if they even happen at all). WUnderground is rarely off by more than 2-3 degrees (which is perfectly understandable) and is better at predicting intensity and type of weather, I've found.

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I've honestly never gotten an ad on the YouTube app - maybe it's a US only thing? Or maybe you need to sign into your gmail account to get rid of ads?

 

In terms of volume controls, there are 2 buttons on the edge of your phone you can use, and you can go back or forward by dragging the playhead underneath the video. Really, onscreen volume controls are unnecessary, and dedicated buttons to skip forward and back 30 seconds would also be pretty superfluous.

If you have never got an ad on the YouTube app, you either don't use it very often or have not updated your app from the original iOS app from Apple.  In the UK we get the ads on more videos than not.

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The majority didn't mind Google's search monopolization because it was the best by far. Now with Google shoving their other services in our faces, and the search results being increasingly eclipsed by sponsored results...

 

The prospect of Yahoo iOS makes me cautiously pessimistic, given Yahoo's habit of letting core tech stagnate. Plus the whole flickr thing.

They might have a few services decent enough for Apple to pull raw data, but as a whole I think their organization is as outdated as the 'web portal' concept they cling to.

 

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I didn't know there were pay search engines. At least I've never used one.

Pay search engines are Lexis-Nexis and other stuff primarily used by certain professional industries. Journalism, medicine, etc. 

 

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god I hate the YouTube app now. Every time I pull a video up I have to wait 5 seconds to skip an ad.

 A five second wait isn't the worst thing in the world, considering the quality service YouTube provides. And especially compared to the alternatives...

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I don't like Google proper, but their Search is superior to Bing and Yahoo. Perhaps it's just my familiarity with Google Search.

However, if Apple and Yahoo try something, I will give it a go.

Again, I dislike everything Google.

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I've tried Bing.  Maybe it's bad luck, but I never seem to get a decent result.  I give Bing a serious try about every year and so far its been meh.
Google is free and gives me the best results.  Why not use it?

True. I keep trying to like it, too. Have you tried the bingiton site?
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I'd be totally fine with this and lead the charge to cheer it on except for the fact that Yahoo! Weather is hopelessly incorrect, both in iOS and the Dashboard. I can only assume this inaccuracy extends to the rest of its services, so it'd be great if they could fix that sometime.

Odd. I've never noticed it being that off. Use it daily. Y! pulls their data from The Weather Channel, so I would think the issue would be with them. Have you noticed differences comparing the two? I just did and a degree off though the hourly is the same.
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Maybe if Apple bought Yahoo they could make quite an interesting future together.

iYahoo?

I am waiting for this to happen!  I love Yahoo to be part of Apple. Apple should own a search engine.

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Originally Posted by Chandra69 View Post
 I love Yahoo to be part of Apple. Apple should own a search engine.

 

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despite how deep inside that chick Ive might be, still a bad idea, yahoo is over.

They should change their name to Akebono.

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Try the compare site http://bingiton.com and see how they compare. If you are honest it will tell you who, on those five searches at least, you like.

Bing Delivers 5 Times as Many Malicious Websites as Google

http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/310268-bing-delivers-five-times-as-many-malicious-websites-as-google

 

To be fair Bing is nowhere near as dangerous as Yandex. Not even in the same league.

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