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On Friday, Apple's iPhone finally launched on T-Mobile, the United States' fourth-largest wireless carrier, with customers able to pick up Apple's bestselling smartphone on T-Mobile's new UNcarrier pricing structure.

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Customers line up ahead of T-Mobile's iPhone launch. Image via BTIG Research's Walter Piecyk (@piecykw)


Depending on creditworthiness, customers can pick up a 16GB iPhone 5 for just $100 down followed by 24 monthly payments of $20 until the full cost of the phone is paid off. The device will have access to T-Mobile's newly-active 4G LTE network, available in seven markets across the US.

While not as big as the launch of a fully new Apple device, there have been reports of lines forming in front of T-Mobile retail stores ahead of the iPhone's launch. BTIG Analyst Walter Piecyk tweeted an image on Friday of about ten people in line waiting for the device. Likewise, TechCrunch reports that its own intern saw a small line outside of a New York T-Mobile Store.

AppleInsider's calls to a number of T-Mobile stores were unable to get an exact figure for the number of iPhone 5 units sent out, with one attendant saying only that "we have quite a few in both colors." Multiple T-Mobile retail outlets contacted, though, did verify that they saw small lines outside their locations before opening, and some reported a "full store" some time after opening for business hours.

Internal documents obtained by TmoNews revealed that T-Mobile had prepped more than 240,000 iPhone 5 units for dispersal to company-owned retail stores for sale on Friday.

Those documents also show that T-Mobile is setting a one-device limit per customer per 14-day period. Customers who showed up early to wait in line were apparently provided with tickets to reserver a device. Non T-Mobile customers can buy up to two iPhone 5s per transaction at the "Phone Only" full price.

TmoNews also spotted a number of in-store displays for the iPhone 5, showing off the device in a minimalist fashion. Additional in-store displays show off a number of cases for the device.

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T-Mobile customers will also be able to choose from the iPhone 4S and the iPhone 4, though those devices will not be able to access the carrier's 4G LTE network.

T-Mobile's new data plans include 500 megabytes of high-speed online data and unlimited calls and texts for $50. For an extra $10 per month, users get 2.5 gigabytes of high-speed data, while unlimited 4G access runs $70 per month. In addition, users are simply throttled, not penalized, when they go over their data cap.

T-Mobile also launched on Friday its very first commercial highlighting Apple's bestselling smartphone on its network. The commercial touts not only the iPhone 5, but T-Mobile's own pricing plans as well.



Last among the major American carriers to adopt the 4G LTE standard, T-Mobile is hoping the arrival of Apple's iPhone on its network can, along with its new payment plans, reverse a trend that has seen subscribers departing for its competitors. The event to launch the new payment plans was filled with colorful language from T-Mobile CEO John Legere. Legere said T-Mobile's contract-based competitors were taking advantage of customers and characterized the UNcarrier plans as a way to "stop the [nonsense]."
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Best of luck to T-Mobile, hopefully they are successful.
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Depending on creditworthiness, customers can pick up a 16GB iPhone 5 for just $100 down followed by 20 monthly payments of $20 until the full cost of the phone is paid off. The device will have access to T-Mobile's newly-active 4G LTE network, available in seven markets across the US.
 

 

Shouldn't that be "24 monthly payments of $20"?


Edited by NasserAE - 4/12/13 at 10:19am
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Don't these guys know demand is down, the screen is "too small" and the iPhone isn't "cool" anymore. /s
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Should that be "24 monthly payments of $20"

No, 20 payments is correct.

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post #6 of 74
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No, 20 payments is correct.

Not according to T-Mobile website.

 

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Don't these guys know demand is down, the screen is "too small" and the iPhone isn't "cool" anymore. /s

Poor sheeple don't know yet /s

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Should that be "24 monthly payments of $20"

LOL no it's not - already have mine with 24 payments...

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It's 24 monthly payments.

 

For whatever reason, when the T-Mobile iPhone 5 plan was announced a while ago, some websites wrote 20 months, while others wrote 24 months.

 

And since this is the age of the internet, where false information regularly gets repeated and copied, without any checks or verification at all, some sites and sources continue to spread incorrect information.

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It's 24 monthly payments.

 

For whatever reason, when the T-Mobile iPhone 5 plan was announced a while ago, some websites wrote 20 months, while others wrote 24 months.

 

And since this is the age of the internet, where false information regularly gets repeated and copied, without any checks or verification at all, some sites and sources continue to spread incorrect information.

 

and never corrected.

post #11 of 74
This must be something T-Monile isn't familiar with - lines forming outside their stores. Just wait until the next iPhone comes out.
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People lining up for a product two quarters after it was first introduced!?

 

This news must kill Androiders.... (and poor Samsung).

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People lining up for a product two quarters after its was introduced!?

 

This news must kill Androiders.... (and poor Samsung).

 

Being able to pick up a brand new iPhone 5 today for only $100 upfront, and with no contract sounds like a pretty good deal.

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Good for Apple & T-Mobile, hopefully
T-Mobiles reception improves with their updates
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and never corrected.

 

True, especially when it comes to Apple related rumors.

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Being able to pick up a brand new iPhone 5 today for only $100 upfront, and with no contract sounds like a pretty good deal.

Doesn't the subscriber have to pay the remainder of the $480 owed on the handset if (s)he walks away from the contract?

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Confirmed at the T-Mobile website: "...24 monthly payments & qualifying service plan req'..."

Upper right sidebar at this link: https://explore.t-mobile.com/iphone-5
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For the past few days my iPhone 4s has displayed "T-Mobile 4G" in the status bar. This has never happened before. I assume I am still capped at 3G?

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Doesn't the subscriber have to pay the remainder of the $480 owed on the handset if (s)he walks away from the contract?

The $480 owed on the phone can be paid in full at any time I believe, and if they were to immediately leave T-Mobile, then yes, I do believe that it has to be paid.

 

It's like a 0% apr loan.

post #20 of 74
So no lines for the new black berry, but lines for a 6 month old phone? And analyst still say apple is done and black berry is the new king?
post #21 of 74
The loan term is for 24 months or until paid off. The phone is not unlocked until paid off.
Only the 16gb is interest free; there is a monthly interest rate applied for the 32gb or 64gb iPhone 5.

A TMo iPhone 5 buyer also has to sign up for and only can sign up for one of 3 plans.

The company, as yet, does not offer their iPhone 5 to existing TMo users on other plans and refuses to say when they will. Those existing users, as before, either must wait until .... who knows when, or buy their unlocked iPhone elsewhere and bring it over to remain on and be grandfathered into their existing plan. TMo seems to be waiting to see how many new customers they net before servicing existing customers who want to keep their existing talk/data plan (which is likely cheaper than the new 3 Simple plans).
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So no lines for the new black berry, but lines for a 6 month old phone? And analyst still say apple is done and black berry is the new king?

I knew that the new Blackberry wasn't going to do that great, but I have never even heard about this before, this is insane.

 

“In several cases, returns are now exceeding sales, a phenomenon we have never seen before,” Detwiler Fenton said.

 

More returns than sales? Wow.lol.gif

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-11/blackberry-falls-on-reports-of-weakening-sales-returns-of-z10.html

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In all fairness, Blackberry is claiming the report is false, and their legal team is taking it up with both the US and Canadian market regulators. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/the-circuit-blackberry-seeks-sec-review-of-analyst-report/2013/04/12/0cd1699e-a38d-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_blog.html

 

I wish Apple's legal team showed similar b***s.

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If T-mo hadn't lost me due to their slowness in adopting the iPhone, I would've taken this deal.

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post #25 of 74
Crowds for a 6 month old phone? Not bad.
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In all fairness, Blackberry is claiming the report is false, and their legal team is taking it up with both the US and Canadian market regulators. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/the-circuit-blackberry-seeks-sec-review-of-analyst-report/2013/04/12/0cd1699e-a38d-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_blog.html

 

I wish Apple's legal team showed similar b***s.

I agree that if it is indeed false and was written to manipulate the stock, then the SEC should crackdown big on that analyst.

 

I am frankly tired of all these lying and clueless analysts, manipulating the markets. Any analyst manipulating the market or any stock should be put behind bars for a long time IMO. 

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I am frankly tired of all these lying and clueless analysts, manipulating the markets. Any analyst manipulating the market or any stock should be put behind bars for a long time IMO.


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I hope T-Mobile hired extra security to keep that crowd in the picture above in line. 1cool.gif

Now that T-Mobile has the phone I'd love to leave Verizon and jump over to the cheaper T-Mobile. But Verizon coverage is just too good 1frown.gif

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Now that T-Mobile has the phone I'd love to leave Verizon and jump over to the cheaper T-Mobile. But Verizon coverage is just too good 1frown.gif

 

I think that it all comes down to where somebody lives.

 

I have never been on T-mobile, but it's supposedly decent in my neck of the woods.

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Good for Apple & T-Mobile, hopefully
T-Mobiles reception improves with their updates


T-Mobile should improve dramatically in the near future as a result of the frequency bands granted to T-Mobile from AT&T as a result of a clause contained within negotiations wherein AT&T attempted to acquire T-Mobile (Band 4) (1700/2100 MHz frequency band pair) (AWS) and as T-Mobile continues to refarm and upgrade their Band 2 UMTS (1900 MHz) (PCS).



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For the past few days my iPhone 4s has displayed "T-Mobile 4G" in the status bar. This has never happened before. I assume I am still capped at 3G?


Depending upon your coverage area you may have access to T-Mobile 1900 MHZ (PCS) HSPA+ at up to 14.4 Mbps (the limit of the iPhone 4S) as a result of T-Mobile refarming their bandwidth.
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So no lines for the new black berry, but lines for a 6 month old phone? And analyst still say apple is done and black berry is the new king?

Well, to be fair, it does sound like there are BlackBerry Z10 lines.

 

Just they're at the return desk.

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I think that it all comes down to where somebody lives.

I have never been on T-mobile, but it's supposedly decent in my neck of the woods.

In my opinion, T-Mobile is certainly worthy of a second look.

T-Mobile has been aggressively improving their services (if not their service):
  • Cost
  • HD Voice (wideband audio on iPhone 5)
  • Best failback network (HSPA + 42 Mbps) (well... Failback if you are in a LTE service area)
  • Most frequency bandwidth per customer (as much frequency bandwidth as AT&T but with a much smaller customer base)
  • "Captured" additional frequency bands as a result of AT&T's failed acquisition (brilliant negotiating, IMO)
  • "Captured" additional frequency bands in 125 metropolitan areas as a result of Verizon concessions to the FCC
  • Acquisition of MetroPCS increases the frequency bands and the number of towers dramatically in some areas


Just wait until all those Verizon customers upgrade to LTE. You will see your LTE speeds fall off dramatically. Verizon has, by far, the least amount of frequency bandwidth per customer of the four major carriers in the United States. * I hear very good comments about Verizon but this worries me a bit.
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People waiting in line outside yet another cell carrier that announced availability of the iPhone, albeit a phone that is approaching a year old. There you go Samsung... fodder for yet another lame TV commercial to boast of your Galaxy S IV...

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Shouldn't that be "24 monthly payments of $20"?

Yes.
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People waiting in line outside yet another cell carrier that announced availability of the iPhone, albeit a phone that is approaching a year old. There you go Samsung... fodder for yet another lame TV commercial to boast of your Galaxy S IV...

The iPhone 5 went on sale September 21, 2012. It is less than 6 months old.
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No, 20 payments is correct.

 

 

My friend and I went to T-Mobile today. She bought an iPhone 5. It is for 24 months. Do the math. The phone costs 579. She paid 99 down. To pay the rest at $20 a month she needs 24 months. You also have to pay the sales tax for the whole purchase at the time of paying the $99. 

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In my opinion, T-Mobile is certainly worthy of a second look.

T-Mobile has been aggressively improving their services (if not their service):
  • Cost
  • HD Voice (wideband audio on iPhone 5)
  • Best failback network (HSPA + 42 Mbps) (well... Failback if you are in a LTE service area)
  • Most frequency bandwidth per customer (as much frequency bandwidth as AT&T but with a much smaller customer base)
  • "Captured" additional frequency bands as a result of AT&T's failed acquisition (brilliant negotiating, IMO)
  • "Captured" additional frequency bands in 125 metropolitan areas as a result of Verizon concessions to the FCC
  • Acquisition of MetroPCS increases the frequency bands and the number of towers dramatically in some areas


Just wait until all those Verizon customers upgrade to LTE. You will see your LTE speeds fall off dramatically. Verizon has, by far, the least amount of frequency bandwidth per customer of the four major carriers in the United States. * I hear very good comments about Verizon but this worries me a bit.

 

 

I along with my ex-girlfriend went to T-Mobile today in Ann Arbor Michigan. Unlike usual, the T-Mobile Store was very busy. The staff was friendly, and they set her phone up immediately. There was a small line when we arrived, and the staff said the line was much longer when the store opened. 

 

The 4G data speed is phenomenal (at least in our area). I tested the hotspot feature on her phone on my Mac, and she used Facetime over 4G. We streamed Netflix video, downloaded apps, and listened to Pandora all over 4G. 

 

Unless you got a special deal, T-Mobile is definately worth a look. Assuming you live in an area with good coverage, you get more for less. For two lines with unlimited everything (with a 2GB cap on 4G) we pay (I am still on her plan) $99 a month. Moreover, T-Mobile is an underdog and it seems to be much hungrier in trying to win you over and keeping you.

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I along with my ex-girlfriend went to T-Mobile today in Ann Arbor Michigan. Unlike usual, the T-Mobile Store was very busy. The staff was friendly, and they set her phone up immediately. There was a small line when we arrived, and the staff said the line was much longer when the store opened. 

The 4G data speed is phenomenal (at least in our area). I tested the hotspot feature on her phone on my Mac, and she used Facetime over 4G. We streamed Netflix video, downloaded apps, and listened to Pandora all over 4G. 

Unless you got a special deal, T-Mobile is definately worth a look. Assuming you live in an area with good coverage, you get more for less. For two lines with unlimited everything (with a 2GB cap on 4G) we pay (I am still on her plan) $99 a month. Moreover, T-Mobile is an underdogand it seems to be much hungrier in trying to win you over and keeping you.

Thank you for the information.

I am in no way endorsing T-Mobile or any of the other [plague] carriers. I simply think they may have improved somewhat and may be the lesser evil.
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Hendrix' version of the Star Spangled Banner used to make people shit their pants in anger. Now it is background music for a mainstream tv commercial.
Not sure what to make of it.
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Hendrix' version of the Star Spangled Banner used to make people shit their pants in anger. Now it is background music for a mainstream tv commercial.
Not sure what to make of it.

Really? I always loved that song..classic Hendrix.
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