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post #41 of 74
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Being able to pick up a brand new iPhone 5 today for only $100 upfront, and with no contract sounds like a pretty good deal.

 

Apart from the contract to pay $20 per month for the next two years, that is.

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post #42 of 74
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In all fairness, Blackberry is claiming the report is false, and their legal team is taking it up with both the US and Canadian market regulators. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/the-circuit-blackberry-seeks-sec-review-of-analyst-report/2013/04/12/0cd1699e-a38d-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_blog.html

 

I wish Apple's legal team showed similar b***s.

 

What I find strange is the Z10 is not compatible with BIS (Blackberry Internet Service) and uses full data services.

 

Had a few customers caught out on this when their bills went through the roof.

 

They bought the BB's outright at another carrier, we no longer bother with Blackberry, to the shock and dismay of rare diehard fans.

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post #43 of 74
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Originally Posted by TBell View Post


The iPhone 5 went on sale September 21, 2012. It is less than 6 months old.

 

21st of March would be six months would it not?

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post #44 of 74
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Doesn't the subscriber have to pay the remainder of the $480 owed on the handset if (s)he walks away from the contract?

 

Why do some people  give some people a hard time when they claim they have a no contract plan, but have agreed to pay for the phone? The person is clearly talking about the month to month carrier service, and not the sales contract for the phone. If the person on the same day as signing up for T-Mobile service, went to Sears and bought a washer and dryer on credit, nobody would claim that if the person left T-Mobile before the washer and dryer was paid off that he still has to pay on the washer and dryer from Sears so that there was a contract. The service and sales involve two different agreements. 

 

Moreover, people should opt for the 24 month plan. You can stick the $480 in a 2 year CD and make interest. The loan from T-Mobile is a zero interest loan. 

post #45 of 74
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What I find strange is the Z10 is not compatible with BIS (Blackberry Internet Service) and uses full data services.

Had a few customers caught out on this when their bills went through the roof.

They bought the BB's outright at another carrier, we no longer bother with Blackberry, to the shock and dismay of rare diehard fans.

BlackBerry Z10 requires BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 (BES 10) which forces enterprise customers to upgrade in order to support new users.

Do you not have BlackBerry Enterprise Service 7 (BES 7)?

A few customers (internal or external customers)?

How does anyone make such a mistake to purchase a BlackBerry Z10 outright?

Why are even "rare diehard fans" of BlackBerry shocked. The fortunes of BlackBerry have sunk into the Marianas Trench. In my opinion, no practical, reasonable person could justify the purchase of BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 to support users.
post #46 of 74
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

 

21st of March would be six months would it not?

 

 

LOL. I forgot October. Nonetheless, the iPhone 5 isn't approaching a year like originally stated.

post #47 of 74
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

 

Apart from the contract to pay $20 per month for the next two years, that is.

Yes of course. You're obviously not getting a $580 phone for only $100.

 

Is contract really the correct word though?, because they are giving you a zero percent loan, which can be paid off at any time.

post #48 of 74
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Originally Posted by TBell View Post

Moreover, people should opt for the 24 month plan. You can stick the $480 in a 2 year CD and make interest. The loan from T-Mobile is a zero interest loan. 

 

Yes, it makes sense to opt for the loan, unless somebody requires their iPhone to be unlocked from day one.

post #49 of 74
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Why do some people  give some people a hard time ....

The some people that posted originally that led some people to (politely) ask about the $480 upfront subsidy that led the original some people to (politely) respond with a clarification suggests that no people were giving any people a hard time.

 

Some people! 1wink.gif

post #50 of 74
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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

Crowds for a 6 month old phone? Not bad.


If there were crowds, they should have picked a more representative photo.

post #51 of 74
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Yes, it makes sense to opt for the loan, unless somebody requires their iPhone to be unlocked from day one.

Good point. 

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post #53 of 74

As soon as my contract is up with AT&T (October 2013), I'm heading on over to T-Mobile.  The only reason I switched from them in the first place was because they didn't support the iPhone.  Now that they do and their plans give users more for less, there's really no reason for me to stick with AT&T.

 

I only wish I didn't have to wait until October to switch.  But maybe I'll be lucky and Apple will have released the next iPhone by then.  Here's hoping!

post #54 of 74

So, for $100 down and $90 a month you get unlimited data and a free iPhone 5.

 

 

Quite shocking how much you guys have to pay over there.

It is near half that here and strong competition meant that in the xmas sales ,  $100 down and $24 a month got you the Galaxy S3 c/w the unlimited data.


Edited by aBeliefSystem - 4/12/13 at 2:54pm
post #55 of 74
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Originally Posted by yensid98 View Post

As soon as my contract is up with AT&T (October 2013), I'm heading on over to T-Mobile.  The only reason I switched from them in the first place was because they didn't support the iPhone.  Now that they do and their plans give users more for less, there's really no reason for me to stick with AT&T.

 

I only wish I didn't have to wait until October to switch.  But maybe I'll be lucky and Apple will have released the next iPhone by then.  Here's hoping!

 

 

 

No Hollywood...

post #56 of 74
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.....$100 down and $24 a month got you the Galaxy S3 c/w the unlimited data.

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post #57 of 74
Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.
post #58 of 74
Originally Posted by davestall View Post
Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line".


Given that a line is any vector between two points, having twelve points absolutely is a "line". 


That Galaxy launches when a device is new can't compare to this is no reason to try to redefine the word line, for frick's sake.


Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.

 

Don't troll anymore, thanks.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #59 of 74
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Originally Posted by davestall View Post

Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.

 

Put your fingers in your ears, shut your eyes and repeat after me: 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57518813-501465/apple-iphone-5-sold-out-sales-hit-5-million-in-3-days/

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
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"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
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post #60 of 74


The iPhone 5 went on sale September 21, 2012. It is less than 6 months old.

 

That'd be so easy to check if you whipped out your Calendar. A bit over half a year old, actually, if we are talking the same 12-month year cycle. :)

post #61 of 74
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Originally Posted by davestall View Post

Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.

And every age in between.

You realize Apple sold an average of 500,000 iPhones every day last quarter, right?

Half-a-million a day.

That's a lot of grandmas and grandkids... 1wink.gif
post #62 of 74
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Originally Posted by ipsofacto View Post

The company, as yet, does not offer their iPhone 5 to existing TMo users on other plans and refuses to say when they will. Those existing users, as before, either must wait until .... who knows when, or buy their unlocked iPhone elsewhere and bring it over to remain on and be grandfathered into their existing plan. TMo seems to be waiting to see how many new customers they net before servicing existing customers who want to keep their existing talk/data plan (which is likely cheaper than the new 3 Simple plans).

Not sure why you say that my ex-girlfriend and I are on a contract value plan. Contract ends next year. She went to T-Mobile and walked out with a new iPhone 5 yesterday. I asked the guy are you getting a lot of new customers, and he said a few, but mostly it was existing users wanting the iPhone.

They took the opportunity to try and sell her on other stuff.
Edited by TBell - 4/13/13 at 6:27am
post #63 of 74
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

Apart from the contract to pay $20 per month for the next two years, that is.

It doesn't undercut the fact everybody else makes you pay $199 up front, T-Mobile charges $70 less for the phone, T-Mobile plans are more than twenty dollars a month cheaper for most people, and you can pay the phone off whenever you want.
post #64 of 74
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Originally Posted by davestall View Post

Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.


post #65 of 74
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Originally Posted by Jozsoo View Post

That'd be so easy to check if you whipped out your Calendar. A bit over half a year old, actually, if we are talking the same 12-month year cycle. 1smile.gif

Lol. I already admitted to being an idiot. When I was counting months I left out October. I didn't check because I thought I had it right. Still it was released closer to 6 months than a year.
post #66 of 74
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


BlackBerry Z10 requires BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 (BES 10) which forces enterprise customers to upgrade in order to support new users.

Do you not have BlackBerry Enterprise Service 7 (BES 7)?

A few customers (internal or external customers)?

How does anyone make such a mistake to purchase a BlackBerry Z10 outright?

Why are even "rare diehard fans" of BlackBerry shocked. The fortunes of BlackBerry have sunk into the Marianas Trench. In my opinion, no practical, reasonable person could justify the purchase of BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 to support users.

 

I was referring to retail consumer plans, after putting in so much effort to be less business like and more consumer friendly, RIM has obviously given up on that and is desperately trying to shore up what is left of their enterprise customers.

 

In Australia some handsets are sold on the basis of an exclusivity period by one of the carriers, occasionally people will buy an unlocked phone and use it with the carrier of their choice.

 

The "rare diehard fans" are what are left in the remaining 28%, a number too small to even bother stocking Blackberries anymore.


Edited by hill60 - 4/13/13 at 3:37pm
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post #67 of 74
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Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.

 

That'd be the iPhone 4, 8GB model which is quite popular among those seeking a cheaper point of entry into Apple's ecosystem, such as those you refer to in your post.

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post #68 of 74

I see that it costs $99 only at T-Mobile, but as I can see we will have to pay 20usd/mth for a 2yr contract with T-mobile. Is it real?

post #69 of 74
Originally Posted by Crodwin View Post
I see that it costs $99 only at T-Mobile, but as I can see we will have to pay 20usd/mth for a 2yr contract with T-mobile. Is it real?

 

$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.

 

It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #70 of 74
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.

 

It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.

 

 

I disagree. I doubt T-Mobile makes any money on the sale of the phone. It is giving it to you at a wholesale price at zero percent interest.  Even with the $20 dollar a month on top of the monthly service plan cost, for many people the plan will cost significantly less than on other carriers. 

post #71 of 74
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Originally Posted by TBell View Post

 

 

My friend and I went to T-Mobile today. She bought an iPhone 5. It is for 24 months. Do the math. The phone costs 579. She paid 99 down. To pay the rest at $20 a month she needs 24 months. You also have to pay the sales tax for the whole purchase at the time of paying the $99. 

At T-Mo's web site, one can see the base price for any number of lines in a plan, and, the small print says "Taxes and fees additional". I think the additional amount can be substantial (something like $30 or more). Can you tell us how much your friend's monthly cost is? How much is the "additional" cost?


Thanks!

post #72 of 74
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.

 

It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.


If you don't buy a new phone, VZ and ATT will continue charging you the same monthly fee. In effect, they rob you $20 per month.

post #73 of 74
Originally Posted by jj.yuan View Post
In effect, they rob you $20 per month.

 

Well, you choose to pay it.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #74 of 74
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Originally Posted by jj.yuan View Post


If you don't buy a new phone, VZ and ATT will continue charging you the same monthly fee. In effect, they rob you $20 per month.

Actually, quite a bit more since their equivalent plans are much more expensive.
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