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And the people who deny the holocaust today are more than likely to believe that 911 was an inside job. It's the same mindset of denying the complete evidence, taking things out of context and extrapolating a different outcome. It's dangerous, extremely in fact. Hitler used the same kind of conspiracies to build hatred of the Jews. Now I'm not trying to suggest you are a holocaust denier, in fact I would be very shocked if you were, but these events from the recent Newtown massacre to the Boston bombing are being exploited by anti-government and typically right wing groups, to further their agendas. Alex Jones is one such person, that's for sure. They're dangerous for another reason too. Our safety is at risk if we don't act to stop these terrorists. That can mean some uncomfortable surveillance. People who have been convinced that all this terrorism is carried out or allowed to happen by the USG, are not likely to accept increased surveillance. Indeed they are likely to see that as one of the USG goals in the first place. Sensible and properly monitored surveillance is critical to preventing more of these attacks.  

 

You should have been in Germany in the 1930s. You and your sort - those who kneel to authority by default, as if Government Is God, are the mindset who enabled Hitler and the Nazis to gain power...those who failed to ask what had to be asked, and failed to challenge what needed to be challenged. They blindly followed the propaganda - look what then happened.

 

You and your mindset would have been first in line to try on a shirt in a fetching shade of brown and march in lockstep towards tyranny. You are one of those who consistently refuse to question authority, assuming they are correct every time (despite plenty of evidence to the contrary in numerous cases). In your obsessive zeal to protect the powers-that-be and justify their behaviors and reactions, you remain unable to make the distinction between those who ask questions to which sensible answers have not been given, and those who point the finger of blame. 

 

And no, I am NOT a Holocaust denier. Very far from it... That you would suggest such displays more about your nature than mine.  Actually, I am  actually less of a Holocaust denier than many high profile people and organizations, especially here in the US, who appear to either not recognize or "brush to the side as irrelevant", the fact that at least 5.5 million people who perished at the hands of the Nazis were not Jewish. Some estimates put the Holocaust death toll at as many as 24 million total.... but apparently, we're not supposed to recognize that others were exterminated, because would not that be displaying anti-semitism, as well as failing to conform with accepted Holocaust History. Perhaps those who have written mainstream Holocaust history, as most people now know it, omitted those millions others on account of their 'lesser status as human beings'? I have never been able to relate to the racist mindset - so this unofficial but widely accepted selective Holocaust denial by omission and silence, as regards the extermination of up to 18 million others is a mystery.  1confused.gif1frown.gif

 

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Where is your evidence that those who question the government's account of 9/11 are likely to be Holocaust deniers? That is utter drivel and claptrap. Find me one successfully peer reviewed study, un-rebutted, which supports your infantile assertion. 1rolleyes.gif

 

Meanwhile, get that brown shirt ordered.

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6 million Jews perished during the Holocaust remember that number!I still have hatred for Germany until i die!
 

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"The Boston Marathon explosions were on the minds of officials in Manhattan today as a would-be city synagogue bomber was sentenced to five years prison.

 

Mohamed Mamdouh, 22, a naturalized citizen from Morocco, had pleaded guilty in a closed-court proceeding last year to conspiracy and weapons possession as crimes of terror; his co-defendant, Algerian citizen Ahmed Ferhani, got a ten-year sentence last month as the scheme's mastermind.

The two had been taped during an eight-month NYPD undercover operation plotting to throw a grenade into an unspecified synagogue, and to wire multiple bombs to a single detonator so as to blow up several synagogues simultaneously."

~ http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/moroccan_would_be_synagogue_bomber_5PIV61VnWPhvbs2C5ImppL

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post #244 of 255

The proof that Jon Stewart was right on the money about Fox the other night:  Fox.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/five-jon-stewart-attacks_n_3169413.html

 

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post #245 of 255
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The proof that Jon Stewart was right on the money about Fox the other night:  Fox.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/five-jon-stewart-attacks_n_3169413.html

 

These commentators are no more representative of the mainstream GOP than Islamic terrorists are of Muslims in general. Hopefully they are also less dangerous, although that depends on their message continuing to be ignored. I'm not sure whether ridicule, amusing and well deserved though it may be, helps or hinders that goal.

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6 million Jews perished during the Holocaust remember that number!I still have hatred for Germany until i die!
 

 

Nobody here is disputing that at least 6 Million Jews died during the Holocaust. I'm just pointing out that the total Holocaust death roll was as many as 24 million :(. in other words, as many as 75% of the Holocaust victims have been ignored, or, for want of a more apt word, DENIED.

 

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Why do you hate Germany? There are very few people alive today who had anything to do with that horrific episode, either in Germany or anywhere on the planet. You cannot equate the actions of murderous psychopaths in positions of power, alongside those who obeyed their orders (under penalty of being shot if they resisted), with the current German population. And it is a terrible mistake to equate the government of a country, with its people... no matter *what* country. There are probably very few instances in human history where the actions of the government of a nation reflect, in general, what the people of that nation desire.

 

When it comes to perpetrating appalling deeds, ANY NATION is at risk if its government goes rogue. No society is immune - we are ALL human beings. Look what happened to Russia when the Soviets forced Communism on everyone. Look at Uganda under Idi Amin, or China under Mao TzeDong, and many more. Germany was a parliamentary democracy until A.H. came to power via - yes, a false flag terrorist operation - after which the German Constitution was suspended and the rest, as we know, is history. It COULD happen anywhere, if a population is shocked and awed enough to relinquish their rights, liberties and their willingness to stand up to the powers-that-be.

 

Today, the difference is that our abilities to instantly communicate via a variety of media make emulating these historical national overthrows a much tougher task, and the "slow motion coup d'état" method seems to be the more strategic and workable way to accomplish the aim of control and subjugation - aka the "boiling frog syndrome". A human failing/psychological trait, readily exploited by rogues in power, is our mass tendency to conform to authority opinion, even in the awareness or knowledge that they are wrong, or lying, or whatever...partly out of fear of being seen by ones' peers as being "not one of us", for example accused of "being unpatriotic", or labaled as a "conspiracy theorist". (!)

 

But, being aware that psychopaths tend to rise to the top in *ANY* system (thats part of the nature of the beast), you can bet there are people working behind the scenes who want a more "instant gratification" solution, as regards their preferred pace of change towards totalitarianism.

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post #247 of 255

The media superstar in the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombing has been, undoubtedly, Uncle Ruslan. He got connected to the US media within hours of the bombing, and was soon coming out with all manner of bizarre stuff that the corporate media eagerly glommed onto, and America has been hanging on his every word, via our corporate weasel media. Thankfully, we still have a few investigative journalists around - who can help put a sense of rationality on the rank idiocy and infantile gibberish being spewed out by the networks:

 

Here is a little more the wonderful, talented and new media superstar, Uncle Ruslan:

 

1. Uncle Ruslan was implicated in an investigation involving the laundering and theft of $6 billion, one of the biggest bank fraud cases in history - but the US corporate media looks the other way while fawning over this jerk-off.

 

2. Uncle Ruslan was married to Samantha Fuller, the daughter of former top CIA official Graham Fuller, who spent 20 years as operations officer in Turkey, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Hong Kong. In 1982 Fuller was appointed the National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asia at the CIA, and in 1986, under Ronald Reagan, he became the Vice-Chairman of the National Intelligence Council, with overall responsibility for national level strategic forecasting. In other words, Uncle Ruslan was intimately connected to the highest levels of US Intelligence.

 

 

3. Uncle Ruslan also worked for USAID, an outfit linked with international terrorism in the Mid East

 

4. Uncle Ruslan worked for Big Sky Energy, earning $200,000 a year. Big Sky is a shell company of.... guess who? Halliburton Inc.

 

5. Uncle Ruslan was formerly known as Ruslan Tsarnaev.

 

6. His ex father in law Graham Fuller was listed as one of the American Deep State rogues on former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds' State Secrets Privilege Gallery,. Sibel Edmonds, famously "the most gagged person in US history" explained it featured subjects of FBI investigations she became aware of during her time with the FBI. Criminal activities were being protected by claims of State Secrets, she asserted. After Attorney General John Ashcroft went all the way to the Supreme Court to muzzle her under a little-used doctrine of State Secrets, she put up twenty-one photos, with no names - and one of them was Graham Fuller.

 

7. Uncle Ruslan's (ex) father in law Graham Fuller was identified as the author of a 1985 study that, according to the New York Times, was "instrumental" in the decision of the Reagan Administration to secretly contact leaders in Iran and "eventually led to the covert sale of United States weapons to Teheran in what became the Iran-Contra Affair.

 

8. Uncle Ruslan's (ex) father in law now is now an author and political analyst, specializing in Islamic extremism. (oh my...what a coincidence)

 

9. Uncle Ruslan recently spewed out a yarn about some mythical Armenian exorcist named "Misha" - who allegedly "radicalized Tamerlan Tsarnaev into militant Islam". The US media gave our beloved Uncle Ruslan carte blanche to broadcast a single-sourced story with no evidence or corroboration - the #1 No-No in responsible, real, journalism. This is the equivalent of you or me marching into the CNN HQ in Atlanta, claiming to have the lowdown on what happened in the OJ Simpson case, with no evidence,  and no witnesses, and expecting them to broadcast it without question. This is what happened with Uncle Ruslan - he got the all-star treatment from the A.P. alongside rest of the fawning Goebbels media-machine for this claptrap. Nobody has seen or heard of Misha - in other words, he is probably a cut-out of some other guy -perhaps an FBI informant - oh my, here we go again. Oh wait, he could have been radicalized by the CIA... nothing like a bit of inter-agency turf rivalry - happens all the time.

10. And last and most definitely least - Uncle Ruslan has been recommended as "bravery award" material from some weasel "reporter" working for the Washington Post. Jeezus H. F***ing Christ.... how pathetic and kneepadded can our scumball media get?

 

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Uncle Ruslan, contender for Slimeball of the Year, corporate media superstar Uncle Ruslan, has zero credibility. He's the new Curve Ball, or Ahmed Chalabi. The story we've been fed to date - would get laughed out of a Hollywood studio as "too weird even for bad fiction".  Just too many co-inkie-dinikes to garner any credibility. As wild and wacky, and incestuous, as crazy conspiracy theories can get. 

 

And the US public takes its leave of common sense, and choose to believe it all without raising an eyebrow!

 

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post #248 of 255
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Russia has a growing islamist problem, and it's advice should have been heeded by the US.

 

Does anyone remember the Beslan school massacre in 2004 when 32 heavily armed muslims took a school hostage? 1,100 people were taken hostage, including 777 children. 186 children were killed. In total over 380 hostages were killed- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis#Storming_by_Russian_forces

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Bare in mind when watching the following video of the bombers mother that before muslims kill for their religion, they often scream the words "Allahu Akbar!" at their victims. You'll probably pick up on the threatening tone in her voice as she says it- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=muMu0ay9xJM

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post #250 of 255
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This is disturbing. The Russian's warned the US because they said Tamarlan Tsarnaev was an online contact of a Canadian boxer filming this video- 

 

"The man behind the camera was a former Toronto boxer and Seneca College student who had converted to Islam in 2009 and left Canada in 2010 to join the Dagestan rebels. Alarmed by his plunge into extremism, his father called the Russian interior ministry.

Russian officers located and arrested Plotnikov in Dagestan in early 2011. Under questioning, Plotnikov reportedly named Tsarnaev as one of his online contacts, sparking investigations by both the FBI and Russia’s security service.

 

“What do you do?” Plotnikov asked a rebel sitting on a bed beside his assault rifle.

“Terrorism, to kill non-believers. This is what I do,” he replied. “Allah gave me fuel, a bunker, a lot of brothers. I eat and think a lot. I think how to kill them. I make a plan how to kill more non-believers, when to kill them… Something is coming concrete to you for the sake of Allah.”"

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/01/canadian-jihadists-video-may-have-been-inspired-boston-bombings/

 

 


Edited by Hands Sandon - 5/2/13 at 10:37am
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Meanwhile, the guy who was given national airtime of TV to denounce "conspiracy theorists" and give some kind of "justification" for the experiment in police state tactics in Boston, has been outed as a either a psychopath or a deranged drunken meth head, or both. Typical fare for the MSM to dredge up. Watch this video of Roger Nicholson below... if you can stomach this kind of lowlife for more than 30 seconds....

 

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post #252 of 255

NRA finally speaks on Boston.

 

Says people wanted guns.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/04/wayne-lapierre-boston-marathon-bombings-guns-nra_n_3215449.html

 

 

 

 

This guy and his groupies scare me no end.

 

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They cannot find a place to bury the older brother yet.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/06/us/boston-attack/?hpt=hp_t3

 

 

Read through the comments to see how civilized we are as a society and how we strive to show our moral high ground.

 

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They cannot find a place to bury the older brother yet.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/06/us/boston-attack/?hpt=hp_t3

 

 

Read through the comments to see how civilized we are as a society and how we strive to show our moral high ground.

 

The moral high ground is a place everyone would wish to occupy, but more to the point be seen to occupy by others.

 

In the absence of truth and facts (courtesy of the powers-that-be and their corporate media lapdogs, lackeys, shills, whores and propagandists), the moral high ground might as well be the bottom of the well which opens into the sub-basement.

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They cannot find a place to bury the older brother yet.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/06/us/boston-attack/?hpt=hp_t3

 

 

Read through the comments to see how civilized we are as a society and how we strive to show our moral high ground.

 

If you're looking to anonymous internet commenters to provide a baseline on social civility, the problem lies with you, not them.

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