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Coming on the heels of Facebook's debut of the Google Android-based "Home" app launcher earlier in April, the company is now said to be in talks with Apple to possibly collaborate on such an initiative for the iPhone.

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HTC First running the Facebook Home launcher.


Update: A source with knowledge of the situation has told The Next Web that Facebook is not in talks with either Apple or Microsoft and has no current plans to port Home to either iOS or Windows Phone at this time.

Facebook director of product Adam Mosseri revealed to Bloomberg on Monday that talks were underway with both Apple and Microsoft, saying the social network titan is looking to expand the reach of its newest initiative to other smartphone platforms.

?We?ve shown them what we?ve built and we?re just in an ongoing conversation,? Mosseri said.

While just in the early stages of discussion, Mosseri noted Home could be a very different experience on iOS compared to Android, if Apple does end up collaborating on the software.

"It may or may not be Home,? he said, referring to the Android-only software. ?We could also just bring some of the design values to the iOS app. That might be how it ends up. Or we could build just the lock screen. Maybe then it?s not called Home, it?s called something else.?

The executive's statements echo those of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, who during a question and answer session at Home's launch said, "Anything that happens with Apple is going to happen with partnership."

It was reported last week that Home was rapidly prototyped using Apple's Quartz Composer, a component the company ships with the Xcode development tools package, suggesting a move to iOS may not be an insurmountable task.

Facebook Home hit store shelves on April 12 as implemented in the HTC First handset, with the launcher going live in the Google Play app store that same day.
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Ok so basically Facebook will end up updating their app for iOS to have more of a Home UI. No way Ive says yes to a Facebook type launcher on iOS.
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I enjoyed the "Or we could just build the lock screen" 

 

Do they seriously think that Apple would let them anywhere near that?

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I hope this NEVER happens. An application is fine, perhaps more integration, but do not let FaceBook control ANY part of the OS. That may be fine for a lesser crowd, but not one that I want to be part of.

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No thanks, Zuk.

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lol.gif That… that's my line! I started laughing myself as soon as I read your post.

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I thought I was looking at an iPhone 5. Has HTC no shame? (That was a rhetorical q.) 

 

The FB app for iPhone and iPad is quite good (fast, easy to use and fairly stable). A few tweeks (like enabling re-titling of photos on one's timeline) and new name would suffice. Can't see any point in allowing it to dominate the phone's functionality. 

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I don't get it.

 

What if Apple allows for an "home" app on the app store? How about more facebook integration (like feeds on the new notification center, or the frigging wallpaper or lockscreen?

How's that going to change the experience for anyone that does not want Facebook? If you don't know how to use it or simply do not want it, that's your problem.

 

Thanks to facebook, all students from my year have a group where they share exercises, thoughts, have a conversation that otherwise couldn't happen.

Thanks to facebook, i communicate with the ones I care but are far from me.

 

It reminds me of the discussion of a bigger screen iPhone-model alongside the 4" model.

 

Some of you just look so so so retarded. You guys (a few) don't even know what you are talking about.

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No No No. Apple, do not do this

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Facebook and Zuk: We really want Home to be on the iphone.

 

Apple:  No, thanks.

 

Facebook and Zuk: But it will help us connect to our users better.

 

Apple: We are not Google Androids where we spread our legs open and let anyone fork us.

 

Facebook and Zuk: Well, at least can we tinker with the lock screen?

 

Apple: NO, stop wasting our time.

 

Desperation from a company that is trying to do everything it can to stay relevant. 

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I would expect to see Apple replace their Music app with WinAmp before this happens¡

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Originally Posted by TonyLee View Post

Apple: We are not Google Androids where we spread our legs open and let anyone fork us.

 

"I don't show my source code to just anyone. I have principles! And licensing fees."

 

*twenty minutes later*

"Ah! Wait, no! Don't compile me there! I'll… I'll…"

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Facebook as my home screen? No thank you! I stopped using fb when they keep spamming my wall with apps and post they I may be interested in.

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NOOOOO. NOT ON IPHONEEEEE. Not on iPhoneeeeee. Not in iPhone.
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Never happen.  Not even worth talking about.  

 

If Apple won't thinks it's a security risk to put widgets on the lock screen (and they do), they sure aren't going to violate the lock screen with Facebook Home.  

 

Microsoft won't allow it because it essentially steals the only really good, original idea from their platform and runs with it.  

 

Never.  Happen.  

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… Thanks to facebook, all students from my year have a group where they share exercises, thoughts, have a conversation that otherwise couldn't happen.

Thanks to facebook, i communicate with the ones I care but are far from me ….

 

In the first place, you should know that using Facebook in the classroom basically breaks the law in Europe and Canada and most places that aren't the USA and have any kind of decent privacy protections/laws.  

 

Secondly, there is this thing called "the Internet" that also "… allows your students to have a group where they share exercises, thoughts, …" etc.

 

It's just ridiculous of you to suggest that this kind of collaboration "couldn't happen" without Facebook.  It's basically what the Internet was originally made for and has been possible since before the web even existed.  There are so many apps and programs devoted to this one task (collaboration and communication of a group) that it boggles the mind.  It's practically the main f*cking use of the Internet in general.  There must be five start ups a year at least, (every year!) wholly devoted to online collaboration and communication amongst educational users.  

 

Most schools and Universities have multiple, competing products that do exactly this and are devoted to only this task that are available to all instructors.  

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Desperation from a company that is trying to do everything it can to stay relevant. 

 

Wait...what company is that?

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Even here, too many elitist hate on Facebook. tss

- I hope Apple adopt the chat heads. That feature is seriously usefull and implemented well. But of course it wouldn't be just for Facebook.

 

- The lockscreen is somehow good alternative to the current static image.. that's fine because there will be an option to disable it.

 

- The two things that Apple would never agree: 1) The circle head as lockscreen unlocker. 2) Facebook Home's App launcher.


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Wait...what company is that?

 



Well Facebook of course.  Facebook know full well that Apple is not going to let them put Home on the iphone. 

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Microsoft won't allow it because it essentially steals the only really good, original idea from their platform and runs with it.  

 

Never.  Happen.  

 

Microsoft is drowning and will grab any flotsam that drifts past their flailing arms... Microsoft is a whore with a habit and has long since not had an option of choosing who he/she bends over for... 

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post #22 of 57
"What if Apple allows for an "home" app on the app store? How about more facebook integration (like feeds on the new notification center, or the frigging wallpaper or lockscreen?
How's that going to change the experience for anyone that does not want Facebook? If you don't know how to use it or simply do not want it, that's your problem."

The problem is that if they allow FaceBook to control the lock screen and the OS, then they have to let another app do the same. Apple is about the user experience and allowing FB in too deep could (and would) compromise the experience.

Is the current app and OS keeping you from connecting with friends from a far? Are you unable to share exercises and ideas currently? I don't see any benefit in allowing a single company into the iPhone at that level.

OF course, if they did this they could turn into a hardware manufacturer only like Dell and allow anyone to install any OS they want. Then since we don't know what the hell you are looking at on your phone when you need help, increase the number of employees needed, outsource it to India and drop in customer satisfaction ratings. Just so we get a FB experience that does what?

The hardware from Apple is great, but it's the user experience on the device and by customer service experience that makes Apple better than everyone else. Yes trolls, I know they are not perfect, but they always get better and compared to customer service for any company their size or in their industry they are awesome.
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"What if Apple allows for an "home" app on the app store? How about more facebook integration (like feeds on the new notification center, or the frigging wallpaper or lockscreen?
How's that going to change the experience for anyone that does not want Facebook? If you don't know how to use it or simply do not want it, that's your problem."

The problem is that if they allow FaceBook to control the lock screen and the OS, then they have to let another app do the same. Apple is about the user experience and allowing FB in too deep could (and would) compromise the experience.

Is the current app and OS keeping you from connecting with friends from a far? Are you unable to share exercises and ideas currently? I don't see any benefit in allowing a single company into the iPhone at that level.

OF course, if they did this they could turn into a hardware manufacturer only like Dell and allow anyone to install any OS they want. Then since we don't know what the hell you are looking at on your phone when you need help, increase the number of employees needed, outsource it to India and drop in customer satisfaction ratings. Just so we get a FB experience that does what?

The hardware from Apple is great, but it's the user experience on the device and by customer service experience that makes Apple better than everyone else. Yes trolls, I know they are not perfect, but they always get better and compared to customer service for any company their size or in their industry they are awesome.

That's how Apple would allow this. Not directly, but indirectly by creating public APIs that allow for such functions. No such talks with FB on this. I do think that if Apple create such APIs it won't be this overwhleming thing FB Home is, but rather a very controlled method by which 3rd-party vendors can create "widget" like access to your Home screen.

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post #24 of 57
I just have to laugh at the desperation of Facebook. They leak that they're in discussions with Apple and Microsoft, when more likely they reached out and Apple and Microsoft are figuring out the nicest way to say no.
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I hope Apple adopt the chat heads. That feature is seriously usefull and implemented well. But of course it wouldn't be just for Facebook.

Could you explain what "chat heads" are?

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post #26 of 57

Haha pull the other one.

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Could you explain what "chat heads" are?

 

I lack on english skills but here's a video starts @ 2:49 - http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/9/4206340/facebook-home-hands-on-review-video

 

Apple could implement it as an alternative way of notification for Instant Messenger apps.

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Why is this crap being posted?  I mean really!!  Some guy, overheard some guy in a bathroom stall (drunk most likely) cracking up about this and assumed it must be legit?

Jeez... seriously slow day at AI.

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I lack on english skills but here's a video starts @ 2:49 - http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/9/4206340/facebook-home-hands-on-review-video

Apple could implement it as an alternative way of notification for Instant Messenger apps.

I'm glad I asked and thanks for the link to the video with the proper time stamp.

I had assumed you just meant an icon next to the name in Messages, which I would find pointless in the limited space available. I do agree with the reviewer that Chat Heads would be very useful. Apple's modal system is very intrusive.

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post #30 of 57

Facebook Home is just Microsoft KIN's social features for Android. And without the lack of polish Microsoft is frequently known for. It has no place taking over the iPhone's UI.

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post #31 of 57

Awesome, I can now see if a cow strayed away in farmville or if someone has a wicket awesome score in Candy Crush saga.  Or get a notification on "What are you doing" at random times, this is win all the way.  *sarcasm* 

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post #32 of 57

Nope. These criminals will never get a single pixel of my screen :-)

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LOL

Story was obviously bogus from the title alone.
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No just imagine it a constant stream of "Do you know Joe Blog" friend of a friend of distant relative twice removed across my screen.

NO Apple NO

I realize there is supposed to be six degrees of separation between us but christmas is bad enough now

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Facebook is the last App I'd install on my lovely iPhone.

No I got that wrong. Not the last App, but an App I'd NEVER install.

 

If Apple preinstalls FB, I'd be forced to buy a different phone.  Never android, so perhaps a BB?
 

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No,

 

just NO.

 

 

I am not on facebook nor do I intend to ever get there. Did I say NO? Ok, then I say it once again: NO.

 

It doesn't make sense AT ALL also from a marketing perspective. Because Apple's iPhone and all other devices will look exactly the same. Facebook will take control, subtly, as they showed they are able to do, but surely.

First it will be "interesting" but, before you know it, all of your info will be on Facebook.

 

I honestly hope it never ever happens.

 

Though Apple needs to get its act together on the software and internet side of business.

 

Examples:

- new Aperture version (which becomes even more pressing after Lightroom 5 was released). If Apple doesn't release a new version of Aperture soon, then I will never buy another pro software from Cupertino, ever.

- New iWork

- New iLife

- Aperture for iOS. But not a crappy half baked excuse of iPhoto. Give me RAW editing, non destructive editing and full compatibility among devices.

- New "Photostream" abilities. Like the one to share a Photostream on facebook for instance. Don't let Facebook take control of the social aspect, use it only as a distribution method, among many (twitter etc)

- Maps for Mac OSX. So that people use Apple Maps more and help them become better

- Maps for iOS. Update imagery, add 3D cities and create a "Maps" blog on the Apple site to track progress and show you are doing something

- AppleTV or iTV or whatever. Release an SDK and enter the gaming world.

- Bigger screened smartphone, for those who want it

- New MacPro. Come on... Either leave it to die or update it. But don't announce stuff and don't deliver.

- Better iCloud, MUCH BETTER iCloud. "Preview App" has iCloud integration... Enough said.

 

Then, only after this list is complete, evaluate the Facebook Home. And, after a 30 seconds evaluation, conclude that NO, you don't need to let Zuckerberg take even more control...

And Apple, PLEASE BUY Flipboard. And take control of social news. Which is what, for most people, social networks are all about. So you have a "super social app" that integrates all various feeds, newsreels, timetables and so on. Call it iWorld or something. And the social networks as single entities will become less prominent.

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Seriously, who the **** wants this shit? Currently you can have the FB/messenger apps notify you about everything, as we'll as having FB integration in your contact, calendar, integrated as a sharing option, posting from every app and from notification center...we need FB to further infest the OS, including our wallpaper? Jesus ****. No thanks.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thanks
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As long as it is vetted by Apple and goes through the App Store as an optional launcher, and Apple ensure that it requires permission to access any private data I have no issues with this and don't understand all the hoopla.

 

I doubt Apple will allow it, but stranger things have happened.

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I thought I was looking at an iPhone 5. Has HTC no shame? (That was a rhetorical q.) 

The FB app for iPhone and iPad is quite good (fast, easy to use and fairly stable). A few tweeks (like enabling re-titling of photos on one's timeline) and new name would suffice. Can't see any point in allowing it to dominate the phone's functionality. 

Dude that looks nothing like an iPhone 5
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