Originally Posted by matrix07
Nothing to add. I just want to quote this. Really show how ignorant philgar is.
What I find highly amusing is that after years of using (and loving) apple products, it is inconceivable to anyone on here that I'd want to leave their walled garden. I have not attacked anyone on here, I have just said that I wish apple gave me choices, and didn't cram their default applications down my throat. And yet, I'm getting attacked left and right on this forum (not just my beliefs about apple products, which you're welcome to attack, but personal attacks on me). The response is simply that I'm obviously a troll, there's no way I ever used apple products etc, and that I'm clearly an idiot.
People, look out at the real world, not everyone worships at the feet of apple. They're a company, just like every other one, and they're out there to make money. They make some great products, I won't deny that. Their products were leaps and bounds above the competition. I started on apple with an iBook, and love OSX. Back then macs were a great alternative for Linux geeks who were sick of trying to get laptops to work on linux. OSX gave me the command line, and gave me expose, which was an incredibly useful feature. The iBook was more expensive than the alternatives but not overly expensive. At the time, there weren't decent windows machines with good battery life that were significantly cheaper than the iBook. So I made the switch.
I loved the experience, I loved the options OSX gave me, and I bought an iPod because of it. A little over a year after getting my iBook, it died, and I bought a macbook on the day they were announced. I was no longer thrilled with apple thanks to having a computer that was worthless after a year and a half,but they were still the best option, and this time I bought applecare (which was necessary after 3 or 4 logic board failures, a HDD failure, DVD rom failure, screen failure, etc). Despite the hardware issues I had with my macbook, I loved the thing. I was considered a mac evangelist, and didn't want to consider using windows computers.
Before the iphone 4 came out, I had been using the same stupid phone for a while, and was ready to upgrade to a smart phone. I waited in line much longer than I care to admit on the day the iphone came out to buy one. I was one of those people.. And at the time, I considered the iphone to be vastly superior to the competition. The retina display was simply awesome, the camera took some nice photos, and the form factor was great, and it just worked. At the time, android's offerings were severely limited. Low resolution displays, crappy cameras, flimsy hardware keyboards, etc. It was a no brainer.
However, over the following few years, I watched as apple became more and more manipulative and, in my eyes greedy. Their demands to absolutely control the iOS store, basically forcing amazon books off it unless they gave apple a cut of each sale. The 50% apple tax was looking pretty excessive (and yes, 1/3 of the purchase price is equivalent to a 50% surcharge. The developer is selling an app for 66 cents, and apple gets 33 cents....), especially for apps that were bringing customers to apple rather than the other way around.
Since that time, apple has made more decisions that seemed money grubbing to me, and I slowly backed away on my love of them. Additionally, whereas in OSX once upon a time, apple had embraced the computer geeks, in the mobile space, the opposite seemed true. They frowned upon tinkering with your phone, and from the attitude of people on here, i got the impression that a phone I bought wasn't my phone, but rather apple's phone. Jailbreaking is wrong because apple says so, etc. Despite all this, when the ipad3 came out, I was still solidly in the apple camp, and had to have one. I knew it was a toy with no real use, but it had a nice retina display, and looked like a great way to browse the web (it still is). It was also leaps and bounds ahead of the android competitors at the time (had I waited 8 months or so, things would have been very different, and I doubt I'd have bought an ipad). Since then, apple's made more decisions to further lock down their OS. Additionally, their lawsuits, against everyone who wanted to use touch were highly annoying to me. I'm sick of the big guys picking on the little guys in tech. All it does is kill competition. As everyone here has rightfully pointed out, apple has made huge profits over the past few years. More than enough to justify the the R&D in the iphone/ipad 100x over. Wanting more money because the competitors were getting some crumbs seemed excessive to me. Apple had gone from the little guy fighting the big guys, the loveable loser you thought was worth fighting for to the Goliath who was bullying everyone else. Maybe it was all in my mind, but apple seemed to be doing all the things MS did back in the day that made me embrace linux and eventually OSX, so I decided it was time to leave.
When my iphone 4 died recently, I replaced it with a significantly cheaper samsung galaxy s3. It might not be quite as nice as the iphone 5, but it's close enough. Also, at $400 it was what.. half the price of the iphone, kind of a no brainer. My next computer (to replace my 5 year old or so macbook will not be apple (I still can't stand the changes made to expose in snow leopard).
But yes, my experience has no grounding in reality, and I'm sure it's not typical of the standard consumer (those who embraced apple, or rather ios in the past 3-4 years). The every day consumer don't give a shit about choice, or competition, or price or any of that. And they're going to be loyal to apple forever, buying new phones and tablets every 2 years, will gladly replace their 2 year old TV with $2000 iTVs when they're released. At least, thats the picture I get on here. Customers are notoriously fickle, and brand loyalty is relatively meaningless (just look at blackberry). Apple is the style of the week right now, and has been for 10 years or so. Once upon a time Sony was, many other companies have been. Times change, tastes change. If apple can't keep their core customers who have been with them for the past 10 years happy, how do you think they'll keep everyone else happy?
I wish things were different, and I wasn't being chased away from the apple ecosystem, but considering apple's actions, I feel I have little choice.