Originally Posted by jdnc123
I didn't literally mean stop talking. Feel free to say what you want. I won't call you names or bash you or use expletives. Where might I ask would Apple come up with over $200 billion to take themselves private and why would shareholders allow them to do so. Answers...they can't and they won't.
ABC is what I want. Anybody But Cook. History lesson. Steve Jobs has a bad track record at picking CEOs. In no way shape or form should Cook tell anybody about the product line. A CEO is paid to create shareholder value. That is his sole job. Lets start by doing that.
The cost of the HQ has ballooned recently. So if it cost $40 billion, you are cool with that just because it was planned and they can easily afford that? That doesn't make any sense. If they need space, while things get re-designed go lease space like every other company in the world. I'm not saying cancel really, I'm saying spend maybe $1 billion, not $5 billion. So they can't give the owners of the company any more money in the form of dividends or buybacks, but they can give employees one of the most extravagant office spaces ever built?
Yeah, just as I expected. "Anybody but Cook". You don't have a fucking clue. You're cool with a random person coming in, not having a shred of insight how Apple functions, their DNA, their culture, and just predict they'll do a fantastic job?
" Steve Jobs has a bad track record at picking CEOs."
What a ridiculous comment. You can't compare Scully to Cook. Scully came from a fucking soda company, knowing nothing about Apple. Cook has been with Apple for a damn long time and has been absolutely instrumental in it's success. Yes, there's a history of outsiders having a shitty affect on Apple and not understanding the company. See Scully, papermaster, John Browett- all pulled from other companies and subsequently crashed and burned. Meanwhile, Jobs HAS a fantastic track-record of attracting talent, and the talent that stayed with Apple have proven to be some of the best of the best. Cook is one of these people, and he was hand chosen by Jobs based on their countless hours spent together. Yet, you're cool with some random duded coming in from the outside to lead Apple, a company that has shown time and time again is unique and does not do well with people coming from the outside with typical management philosophies. This uncaring attitude proves that you actually couldn't care less about the future of Apple, and are simply using this opportunity to repeatedly kick them in the face and hope for the worst.
"but they can give employees one of the most extravagant office spaces ever built?"
Yes, I think giving Apple's core employees, the people who's work determines the future success of the company, the best possible workspace possible is money well fucking spent, and spent better than distributing dividends that will mean absolutely nothing in the long run and has no guarantee of changing anything. And yeah, because I'm fine with $3-$5B, that means I think $40B for an HQ is reasonable. When you don't have an argument, just put words in to my mouth. I also liked how you randomly pulled $1B out of your ass, and state that Apple should just spent that. Are you 15? Ok then. Also, what the hell did the last dividend accomplish? And yet that's your solution, as if another dividend will magically fix everything?The fact that you can't see the value of a great HQ, and you have no idea and no care who you'd want to replace Cook- simply that he be gone- speaks volumes about how little you care about Apple's longterm. It shows you're a troll who is giddy about Apple's stock being bruised and would fantasizing about the company being burned to the ground by bringing in some new random management. Apple is currently one of the (if not THE) healthiest companies on the planet.
Under Cook, ALL their metrics are way up. Revenues, profits, customer satisfaction is thorugh the roof, consumer/enterprise/education adoption, usage, adoption in developing countries, taking the biggest chunk of all profits in ALL their respective industries- yet you want to cut off the head because of the stock, which has shown it is the product of manipulation and an agenda, and has no correlation to performance whatsoever. You don't even want to give the company a chance to show the world what it's been working on to see what happens-because that would make too much fucking sense. Better to get rid of the CEO and **** up/delay whatever product roadmap Apple is on, because that will magically fix the stock. Why not fire the rest of Apple's executive team? You know, the team which has remained largely unchanged through all of Apple's explosive success and industry changing products? I'm sure they share blame for the stock too, right? All easily replaced by some bean-counters. It's not like Apple's long term success depends on developing products or anything. No, it just depends on greedy, short-sighted people like you getting some money money in their pockets and thinking they have a clue on how to get that accomplished.
You joined the forum last month and 100% of your posts have been about the stock and asking for Cook's head. You clearly don't care a whif about the company or its products beyond that, as not a single one of your posts discusses these. You haven't had a single positive thing to say since you registered,and that says alot. You can't give your opinion on what Apple should and shouldn't do when you have absolutely no interest in their products, don't like their products, and therefore don't understand what has made them successful or what will keep them successful.
Edited by Slurpy - 4/18/13 at 2:02pm