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I think everyone should stop pretending that investors as a whole make decisions about stocks on any sort of rational basis. If they did, stock manipulation wouldn't be so easy.

 

I think there's a mix of investors, but too many invest with passion.  Those are the ones that get burned.  They are stuck complaining about manipulation after the fact.  If there was any manipulation, it is not in analysts using FUD to drive the price down.  The biggest drops in Apple valuation have been when Apple reports actual numbers.  The manipulation would have been when analysts irrationally drove the price up to the $700 range without the numbers lining up- but you can't really blame the analysts entirely right because the rising stock price was 'proving them right.'  Nobody was complaining about that while they were 'making money' on Apple shares.  People loved the company, and they bought a lot of shares.... that drove the price up higher and 'confirmed' that Apple stock was a winner and so more people bought into it.  When it is that exuberance that is driving shares up more than actual sales numbers its time to get the hell out.   In the end, Apples actual sales are indeed stellar, but not $680 billion stellar (which is I think about where the $700 stock price would put them).

post #42 of 60
A year to forget because they ONLY continued to make incredible amounts of money.

Perpetual increase in share price is a foolish goal and that's all people seem to care about when they're in "the market." Bunch of self-fulfilling prophecy crap. It's all about impressions and rumors. All nonsense. What a great model for an economic system.
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"White believes Apple should leverage its $137.1 billion cash balance to attract investors and built a "safety net" around the stock."

This is exactly what Apple should NOT do! Investors not being attracted by APPL is their own problem not Apple's...

This may go in the list of worst Apple suggestions right along with "Apple should shut its door and give the money back to the shareholders", "Apple should stop making HW and license their OS", "Apple should drop the Mac and focus on only making iPods", and "[Everyone will be sorry for buying an iPod] when Microsoft releases their [Zune]." Okay, that last one was from The Big Bang Theory.

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How much time is left for the earnings report? Can someone tell me?

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How much time is left for the earnings report? Can someone tell me?

Time left before it starts is approx. 50 minutes: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/13houbqwdvowuhb04/event/index.html

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How much time is left for the earnings report? Can someone tell me?

Shortly after the market closes (4:00 PM Eastern)

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Shortly after the market closes (4:00 PM Eastern)

On the website it said 2pm?!

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I just got one, and it is a beautiful device.

Congratulations!

 

I hope it'll make you trot off to the HTC forums........ phew....

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How much time is left for the earnings report? Can someone tell me?

Shortly after the market closes (4:00 PM Eastern)

4.30 PM. (Three minutes away).

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Shortly after the market closes (4:00 PM Eastern)

On the website it said 2pm?!

Ok I was just guessing. Perhaps they meant Pacific as the market has been closed for a few minutes.

 

Follow Soli's link above.


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4.30 PM. (Three minutes away).

3?

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4.30 PM. (Three minutes away).

3?

I guess is is 5 PM. So, 33. 1embarassed.gif

post #53 of 60

Report out AAPL beats street in revenue.

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post #54 of 60
Apple will beat expectations, but the margins will be down, they've been moving lots of product at reduced prices on eBay & through some retailers.

The stock will go sideways, IMHO, am sitting this one out, betting on Starbucks with reduced coffee prices and not cutting their retail prices.
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We have a beat, as well as an increase in dividend and expanded stock buyback. Share prices should jump tomorrow

who told you that? otherwise you should be banned.

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Apple will beat expectations, but the margins will be down, they've been moving lots of product at reduced prices on eBay & through some retailers.

B-S.

 

Shoo, with your nonsense.

post #57 of 60
Oh ffs. It seems like every time these guys speak anymore, ridiculous crap comes out.

"2013 a year to forget" declared in APRIL? Psh...

Sounds like a case of, "Oooh, don't let that stock price go up, it'll conflict with our carefully crafted narratives!!!"
post #58 of 60
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You don't think the creators thereof (not employed by Apple) would be a little miffed, at any rate?

Just raggin' ya TS.

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post #59 of 60
If you've lost a lot of money investing in the company, it's definitely "a year to forget."
post #60 of 60
Lets look at this for a moment. The last two quarters, Apple posts $54 Billion and $43.6 in Revenue respectively. Apple also reports Record Net Income of $13.1 Billion in Quarter 1, 2013 and $9.5 Billion in Quarter 2, 2013, Apple's 4th Highest Profit reprt in its electrifying history. How do the Wall Street Bozos react? They share 44% off Apple's Market Cap since the All Time high of $705 was reached on September 18, 2012.

Amazon reported revenue of $16.07 billion. The Wall Street analysts had expected $16.14 in Revenue. The company’s Net Income was just $181 Million. That resulted in earnings per share of a meager 18¢. Amazon’s Net Profit was a tiny 1.12%.

Lets look at the numbers side by side.
AAPL Revenue: $43.60 Billion
AMZN Revenue: $16.07 Billion

AAPL Net Income. $9.5 Billion
AMZN Net Income. $181 Million

AAPL Earnings per share. $10.09
AMZN Earnings per share. $00.18

AAPL Net Profit Percentage 21.78%
AMZN Net Profit Percentage 1.12%

So how do the Wall Street Pros report these results? Like uninformed Bezos Bozos that’s how! It’s a hard reality to get one’s arms around

Look at the typical Apple Headlines. “Is Tim Cook cooked?” Or “Apple doesn’t announce 5 inch iPhone – The Company is doomed.” How do the Institutional Investment Funds view Apple? At the Closing Bell today, Apple traded at a forward P/E of 9.26. And amazon.com? At The Closing Bell, Amazon traded at a forward P/E of 3380.83.

Wall Street punishes a company with Record Revenue in the Quarter, Record sales of two of its four primary product groups, maintains stable sales of a third, and has 70% market share in the fourth. Share price has been shaved 44% since its all time high achieved just seven months ago.

At the same time, Wall Street rewards a company with one third the revenue and 56 times less income by bidding up the share price to near its all time high. It really seems like Alice climbed out of that Rabbit Hole, walked through the Looking Glass and turned up living on Wall Street.

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