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The latest versions of both OS X and iOS will be available to developers at this year's Worldwide Developers Conference, suggesting the event might showcase the next major version of Apple's Mac operating system in addition to iOS 7.

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For years, WWDC has been where Apple has showcased the next major version of its iOS platform for iPhone and iPad. It's presumed that the 2013 conference will be no different, and will feature the unveiling of iOS 7.

But comments made by Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller in a press release issued by the company on Wednesday suggest that Apple could also unveil to developers OS X 10.9, the next version of the Mac operating system.

"We can?t wait to get new versions of iOS and OS X into (developers') hands at WWDC," Schiller was quoted as saying.

Last year, Apple unveiled the current major release of OS X, 10.8 Mountain Lion, in an uncharacteristically subdued way. Rather than holding an event, the company quietly showed the software to select members of the press, and announced the software was coming with a press release last February.

Schiller's comments suggest that OS X 10.9 may instead take the main stage at Apple's annual WWDC keynote, an event that kicks off the conference. The company announced on Wednesday that WWDC 2013 will take place from June 10 through 14 in San Francisco, and tickets will go on sale this Thursday at 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern.

Traffic from systems running Apple's unannounced OS X 10.9 has been growing in the data logs of AppleInsider and other websites, suggesting the software is being actively tested by the company. But to date, there has been no public acknowledgement of an OS X 10.9 by Apple.
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That's an odd twist.

 

At least we actually have something to rumor about for the next two months. I was getting sick of the non-Apple news.

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OMG so freaking excited ! But 2 more months 1frown.gif
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Jonification!


Oh and time to start the cat guessing again.
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Can't wait to see what is coming new in iOS 7
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This point should have been featured in Tim Cook's remarks yesterday.

The fact that Apple had its second-best March quarter in history was overshadowed by his revealing that we have about 6 months to wait for new product news.

If you watched after-hours trading, the financial results drove the price up around $25,and then the "no news until fall" comment wiped out the gain and started the bloodbath. The cynic in me would say that when you are announcing the biggest stock buyback in history, it doesn't hurt to get the shares at a very low price.
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That's an odd twist.

 

At least we actually have something to rumor about for the next two months. I was getting sick of the non-Apple news.

 

Yeah - I completely agree. I'm really curious if they start making serious UI changes. Another thing might be a much more rigorous iCloud integration - and correct the incomprehensible iWork iCloud integration.

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…incomprehensible iWork iCloud integration.

 

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OK, e.g.: go to Mail, click attachment and try to attach your document saved in iCloud.

No problem attaching a document saved on the computer. 

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Just fix parental controls in OS X please.
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Just fix parental controls in OS X please.

 

Maybe explain what's wrong with them.

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Baffling :)

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I am soooo excited and frightened.  Also, worried

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Now OS X has so many iOS features, it'd be hard to show one without the other, I think. The updates to built-in apps and iCloud will be the same on both. Presumably if iOS is getting a new look, OS X has to get a new look too, since the OS X built-in apps have the same skeuomorphic elements and textures.

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Ocelot or Lynx, perhaps Bobcat. All the commonly known big cats are taken already. Apple might have to abandon the cat naming soon.

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Hope the June 10 Keynote will be a live webcast like last Fall's iPad mini Keynote was.

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This announcement makes me very haptic...Sorry, happy!
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This point should have been featured in Tim Cook's remarks yesterday.

The fact that Apple had its second-best March quarter in history was overshadowed by his revealing that we have about 6 months to wait for new product news.

If you watched after-hours trading, the financial results drove the price up around $25,and then the "no news until fall" comment wiped out the gain and started the bloodbath. The cynic in me would say that when you are announcing the biggest stock buyback in history, it doesn't hurt to get the shares at a very low price.
This morning on CNBC Joe Kernan called Apple a "gadget maker". Sadly I don't think Wall Street cares about software. All they care about is how many "gadgets" Apple sells and how many more they're going to sell in the next quarter. And that they sell these gadgets with 50% margins all the while increasing market share and continuing to grow the top and bottom line. iOS getting a new design or new features means nothing to these clowns.
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Hope the June 10 Keynote will be a live webcast like last Fall's iPad mini Keynote was.
Streamed via ATV perhaps? 1smoking.gif
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OMG so freaking excited ! But 2 more months 1frown.gif

 

They intentionally announced it today to somehow killed the buzz of Samsung Galaxy S4 reviews. Nice move Apple.

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Ocelot or Lynx, perhaps Bobcat. All the commonly known big cats are taken already. Apple might have to abandon the cat naming soon.

The original development of OS X was named Kodiak.  Maybe they'll abandon cats altogether.  Or maybe they'll just call it 10.9 with no name. 

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The original development of OS X was named Kodiak.  Maybe they'll abandon cats altogether.  Or maybe they'll just call it 10.9 with no name. 

 

Generally, mac users like the cat names. I figure they will continue for 10.9 at least. Lynx gets my vote.

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This point should have been featured in Tim Cook's remarks yesterday.

The fact that Apple had its second-best March quarter in history was overshadowed by his revealing that we have about 6 months to wait for new product news.

If you watched after-hours trading, the financial results drove the price up around $25,and then the "no news until fall" comment wiped out the gain and started the bloodbath. The cynic in me would say that when you are announcing the biggest stock buyback in history, it doesn't hurt to get the shares at a very low price.

 

When was the last time HP or Dell announced a product that engenders the same excitement as a boring, non-innovative S version of iPhone? Do their stocks get pounded? This is just market irrationality, which will eventually settle down ... then start all over again.

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Ocelot or Lynx, perhaps Bobcat. All the commonly known big cats are taken already. Apple might have to abandon the cat naming soon.

 

I sure hope so. It was cute at one point. I feels like it's time to move on.

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Wow, you sure can tell how many non-Apple fans are on this site when real Apple news such as WWDC is announced.

 

Looking forward to whatever they announce, hopefully including a new MacPro for those that have been waiting for so long.

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Ocelot or Lynx, perhaps Bobcat. All the commonly known big cats are taken already. Apple might have to abandon the cat naming soon.


OSX Kitteh.  Never been used, and will lower expectations to market norm.  

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Ocelot or Lynx, perhaps Bobcat. All the commonly known big cats are taken already. Apple might have to abandon the cat naming soon.

 

Everything they do in this area will be a repeat.  

 

They've already done Puma, Jaguar, and Mountain Lion which are all the same animal.  A Black Panther is also just a type of Leopard.  They could do "Cougar" (the same as a Puma, Jaguar, or Mountain Lion), or start going for exotic "never heard" of them cats like the Jaguarundi or something.  

 

My choice would be OS X 10.9 "Pussycat."  

 

The artwork should be obvious.  1smile.gif

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My choice would be OS X 10.9 "Pussycat."  

 

The artwork should be obvious.  1smile.gif

 

...and Tom Jones for the intro music...

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They could do "Cougar"...

 

But then they'd have to ship it with a hot, sexually charged 40-something woman.

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It was a joke years ago, but I'm in favor of Sabertooth.

 

Because then when OS XI is released in… oh… fall 2015 (phew, that's early!), they can lampshade the name themselves and say "OS X has served us very well, but it's getting a little long in the tooth."

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They've already done Puma, Jaguar, and Mountain Lion which are all the same animal.  A Black Panther is also just a type of Leopard.  They could do "Cougar" (the same as a Puma, Jaguar, or Mountain Lion), or start going for exotic "never heard" of them cats like the Jaguarundi or something.  

 

A Puma, Cougar, and Mountain Lion are all the same animal (Puma concolor) The Jaguar is not the same. Your confusion arises from the common name for 3 different animals, Panther. The Jaguar, Leopard, and Cougar are all commonly referred to as Panthers.

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Make Passbook useful.  I'm trying it and I can't really make it do anything.  I'm not a dumb-ass and I want to make it work, so if I can't handle it, I can imagine that normal users give up on it immediately.

 

Apple has one more card up its sleeve with the big cat naming scheme, but that would be the end of the line.  The last of the big-cat named releases should be named for the biggest cat of all:

 

Garfield.

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Can't wait for some more innovation for the trackpad like second screen or software bottoms/functionality.

 

Going back and forward/zoom/etc should (like safari) be an option to the OS itself and every app.

it could double as numeric keyboard when needed.

-etc.

 

Please Apple, just because the others are so behind, it does not mean that you can't move forward.

 

Also, software. More focus on pro software.

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OK, e.g.: go to Mail, click attachment and try to attach your document saved in iCloud.

No problem attaching a document saved on the computer. 

 

 

 

You don't send an iWork document from Mail...

 

You send it from the Share menu in iWork.

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They could streamline naming and branding into something like this:

 

 

  • iOS mobile
  • iOS desktop

 

The issue here is that "iOS desktop" (formerly "Mac OS X") also runs on mobile devices (e.g., MacBooks).

 

So maybe they could all just be unified under a single name:

 

  • iOS

 

Then it's just that the code that gets installed on an iPhone, iPad or iMac, etc. is different.

 

This certainly would be an Apple-ish simplification and would be consistent with trying to streamline and unify branding.

 

As far as individual major release naming, I'd love to see Apple move away from the cat naming. Maybe they could do something unique and interesting like colors. Perhaps as something of an homage to their original logo, the next 7 generations of OS X (and iOS) could go something like this:

 

  • iOS Green
  • iOS Yellow
  • iOS Orange
  • iOS Red
  • iOS Violet
  • iOS Blue

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I sure hope so. It was cute at one point. I feels like it's time to move on.

 

Maybe they will start the convention anew with iOS and xOS.   

 

I think aside from the cat name "debacle" the real problem Apple has, is that OS X itself is a huge brand for them.  This means that they can't really switch to "OS XI" because that would be meaningless and destroy the brand while at the same time replacing it with nothing special.  There is a public perception that after "10.10" they have to change to something else however.  They either have to create a totally new brand to replace OS X, or just move ahead with 10.11, 10.12, 10.13, change the cats to something else, and then try to forget about the fact that the whole mess is awkward and silly looking/sounding.  

 

The fact that they are running out of cat names adds a twist however because they have to change the cats out soon, so that might be the same point at which they transition the brand.  There are a couple of useable cats left and we aren't *quite* at 10.10 yet so my guess would be that 10.9 will still be a cat, but perhaps a cat without any obvious second act (lion-mountainlion, leopard-snowleopard, etc.), and that 10.10 will be a complete rebrand of some kind.  

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at which they transition the brand.  There are a couple of useable cats left and we aren't *quite* at 10.10 yet so my guess would be that 10.9 will still be a cat, but perhaps a cat without any obvious second act (lion-mountainlion, leopard-snowleopard, etc.), and that 10.10 will be a complete rebrand of some kind.  

 

A cat without a second act would certainly be the saber-toothed cat. It is extinct and therefore has no second act.

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They could streamline naming and branding into something like this:


  • iOS mobile
  • iOS desktop

How about keeping iOS as it is and renaming Mac OS X as the iOS Development Platform?¡


Seriously though, why rename them at all. I quite like OS X as a brand but if they have to rename it I'd like to see xOS and iOS. I just like the way those look.

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Seriously though, why rename them at all. I quite like OS X as a brand but if they have to rename it I'd like to see xOS and iOS. I just like the way those look.

 

How would you pronounce xOS? The X in OS X is pronounced 'ten' not 'ex'

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