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Tickets for Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference sold out in a matter of seconds after they went on sale on Thursday, marking the fastest sell-out in WWDC history.

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Passes for the conference went on sale at 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern, and were priced at $1,599. By just two minutes after the hour, the event was sold out. In comparison, last year it took about two hours for tickets to sell out.

This year's conference. will take place June 10 through 14 at Moscone West in San Francisco, Calif. In a rare reveal, Apple has publicly signaled that it intends to show off the next releases of both iOS and OS X at this year's event. It's expected that WWDC 2013 will mark the first time Apple shows off both iOS 7 and OS X 10.9, and that beta builds of the pre-release software will be provided to developers for testing.

For those who didn't get tickets before they sold out on Thursday, Apple has promised to make video recordings of all WWDC 2013 sessions available online to registered developers.

The five-day conference is scheduled to feature more than 100 technical sessions presented by more than 1,000 Apple engineers. WWDC 2013 will also include hands-on labs aimed at helping developers integrate new technologies, as well as the annual Apple Design Awards showcasing some of the most outstanding iOS and Mac App Store applications.
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It looks like Apple needs a bigger venue.
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in a matter of seconds

 

And people said they couldn't beat out "under two hours" from last year.

 

Next year Apple's first announcement of WWDC will be a page that just says "SOLD OUT".


Originally Posted by drblank View Post
It looks like Apple needs a bigger venue.
 

WWDC in the courtyard (and grounds) of Apple Campus 2 would work.

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Absolutely ridiculous.  I had a ticket in my cart at 1 minute after the hour, went to checkout, it asked for yet another login at checkout, and then wouldn't let me press Sign In or Enter or Continue As Guest.  My only option was to Cancel and try to add the ticket again (this was at 2 minutes after the hour), but it was already sold out at that point.

 
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I've pushed buy ticket, entered my credentials and got error message from the server.

 

Retried a few times, and then sold out by 10:02am

 

This is totally bullsh*t.

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I don't understand why Apple doesn't just move this event to a bigger venue. There are thousands of events that take place all across the nation that host hundreds of thousands of people at convention centers, stadiums, etc. Yet Apple only lets in something like 6,000 people to this event?
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So while it seemed like pre-announcing, and making the videos more available, would relieve some of the landrush problem, in the end it didn't really help the problem at all. 

 

Size of the venue is not the problem. The most compelling reason to attend is access to Apple engineers. More people = less access. So a bigger venue won't solve the problem. 

 

A few more regional events would help, but you can only spread those engineers to far. They still have to work. 

 

Frankly, I don't see much of a solution -- perhaps a lottery? It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. 

 

//B

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They should probably add a virtual attendance option. Pick your sessions and watch live with the ability to submit questions.

I wonder how many tickets go to reporters just trying to get into the keynote.
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Originally Posted by scotty321 View Post

I don't understand why Apple doesn't just move this event to a bigger venue. There are thousands of events that take place all across the nation that host hundreds of thousands of people at convention centers, stadiums, etc. Yet Apple only lets in something like 6,000 people to this event?
Do they have enough engineers to staff for a week if they has a larger venue?
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WWDC 2010: 8 days

WWDC 2011: 12 hrs

WWDC 2012: 2 hrs

WWDC 2013: 2 min

 

Holy fucking shit. 

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I pulled up AAPL on Yahoo's finance page. Not one story on WWDC selling out in minutes. But there was a story from Investors Business Daily about Apple cutting its retail workforce (noted in Apple's quarterly SEC filing). 1rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by bearheart View Post

So while it seemed like pre-announcing, and making the videos more available, would relieve some of the landrush problem, in the end it didn't really help the problem at all. 

 

Yeah, announcing the videos certainly helped me choose not to try to join the rush. But the pre-announce of what time they'd go on sale today just made tens of thousands of people be ready with their browsers to purchase.

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Originally Posted by scotty321 View Post

I don't understand why Apple doesn't just move this event to a bigger venue. There are thousands of events that take place all across the nation that host hundreds of thousands of people at convention centers, stadiums, etc. Yet Apple only lets in something like 6,000 people to this event?

This will be answered countless times, but...

Its because the constraining factor is not the size of the venue, but the number of Apple developers available. The AppleDevelopers/Attendees ratio.

Expanding the event to a point where each Apple body is overwhelmed by hundreds of attendees makes the event pointless.

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I pulled up AAPL on Yahoo's finance page. Not one story on WWDC selling out in minutes. But there was a story from Investors Business Daily about Apple cutting its retail workforce (noted in Apple's quarterly SEC filing). 1rolleyes.gif

 

I'm completely conflicted about whether to pounce on the stock now.. it's risen a decent amt since its low of $387, but have no idea if it will continue or crater again. So fucking unpredictable. 

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Somehow this means Apple in DOOOOMED.

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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

WWDC 2010: 8 days

WWDC 2011: 12 hrs

WWDC 2012: 2 hrs

WWDC 2013: 2 min

 

Holy fucking shit. 

"Nobody goes there anymore... its too crowded."

(paraphrasing Casey)

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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

WWDC 2010: 8 days

WWDC 2011: 12 hrs

WWDC 2012: 2 hrs

WWDC 2013: 2 min

 

Holy fucking shit. 

Impressive indeed. But it's important to note that the "mechanism" for announcement and registration has not been the same in the 4 years listed.

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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

WWDC 2010: 8 days

WWDC 2011: 12 hrs

WWDC 2012: 2 hrs

WWDC 2013: 2 min

 

Holy fucking shit. 

 

Now WWDC ticket sales can be used as a measure in Apple's popularity huh? Then it must somehow affect the stock price, right? The average acceleration in ticket sellout time was 90% for the past 3 years. So if Apple doesn't sell out those tickets in 12 seconds next year, that means their growth is slowing. Stock falling!!!!

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Do they have enough engineers to staff for a week if they has a larger venue?

Yes. But considering that iOS 7 is behind schedule, they wouldn't want to send too many on extended 'vacation'.

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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post
…considering that iOS 7 is behind schedule…

 

[citation needed]

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post #21 of 87

i'm not sure how, but I 'm sure that this will be proof positive in some circles that developers are abandoning the iOS and OSX in droves ;-)

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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

This will be answered countless times, but...

Its because the constraining factor is not the size of the venue, but the number of Apple developers available. The AppleDevelopers/Attendees ratio.

Expanding the event to a point where each Apple body is overwhelmed by hundreds of attendees makes the event pointless.

 

So have one week for OS X and one week for iOS.  Obviously, the iOS week would likely be overloaded as compared to the OS X week, but at least it creates some separation.

 

And yeah, regional events, or even just one event for the west coast and one for the east coast is another option.  Though I get the fact that it's easier to run them in SF because it's less travel and time away for the engineers.  So even two events in SF.

 
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i'm not sure how, but I 'm sure that this will be proof positive in some circles that developers are abandoning the iOS and OSX in droves ;-)

 

Perhaps because they can't get tickets to WWDC and so there's no connections being made with Apple. lol.gif

 
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post #24 of 87
One of the problems is that there are too many people who go to the event for the scoop on Apple products and announcements. They are mostly reporters who come in as developers and while they may have some background they are not true developers.

Apple needs a bigger venue and needs to have more options for reporters at the event, or move the product announcements to a more open larger venue.
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Am I the only one that's intrigued by the design of the conference logo? Both the colours and the fonts seem quite a lot different from things we've seen in the past.

On that vein, I'm really quite excited to see what Johnny Ive's iOS and OS X look like? Will this be the beginning of a new era for Apple or can we expect more of the same?
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Originally Posted by jonvdveen View Post
Both the colours and the fonts seem quite a lot different from things we've seen in the past.


It's last year's invite with the squares superimposed.

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Originally Posted by BeltsBear View Post

One of the problems is that there are too many people who go to the event for the scoop on Apple products and announcements. They are mostly reporters who come in as developers and while they may have some background they are not true developers.

Apple needs a bigger venue and needs to have more options for reporters at the event, or move the product announcements to a more open larger venue.

 

The keynote is the only part of WWDC that is public. It takes place on the first day and lasts 2 hours, with media invitations sent out, etc. The theatre where the keynote takes place doesn’t have enough seats for all ticket holders so it’s on a first-come, first-serve basis. After that, the ticket holders are free to go to whatever sessions they want.

 

So… the reports do come to WWDC, but they don’t need tickets, and they aren’t going to seat in those technical sessions. Ask for having larger venues: Apple may not have enough engineers to lead all those sessions. But I look forward to the day when I can descend into the spaceship to attend the keynote into the middle of garden.

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I feel bad for all those that tried to purchase access right at 10am PT.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

WWDC 2010: 8 days
WWDC 2011: 12 hrs
WWDC 2012: 2 hrs
WWDC 2013: 2 min

Holy fucking shit. 

2010 = 691,200s
2011 = 43,200s
2012 = 7,200s
2013 = 120s

Anyone want to chart this and find out in how many milliseconds it will sell out in 2014?

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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

Yes. But considering that iOS 7 is behind schedule, they wouldn't want to send too many on extended 'vacation'.

 

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[citation needed]

 

Somehow I don't think you'll be getting one.

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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

WWDC 2010: 8 days

WWDC 2011: 12 hrs

WWDC 2012: 2 hrs

WWDC 2013: 2 min

 

Holy fucking shit. 

 

What are these developers thinking anyway? Why attend a developer's conference of a company on its way out? Why develop for a dead platform? ¡¡¡

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Tickets for Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference sold out in a matter of seconds after they went on sale on Thursday, marking the fastest sell-out in WWDC history.

Clearly another example of their artificial supply constraints designed to enhance the hype. It's absolutely not possible when the sky is obviously falling that people would be interested in what Apple is currently doing with such poor management and lack of innovation since the last innovation (which wasn't in the last 5 minutes so not worth considering).
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Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

 

 

Somehow I don't think you'll be getting one.

 

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/04/rumors-swirl-about-ios-7-delays-ui-overhauls-and-more/

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I wonder how many tickets go to reporters just trying to get into the keynote.

None. Reporters are invited separately for the keynote.

As for the virtual idea, I agree. Ciscos web meeting software works on Mac and iOS so they could use that or something similar. I used it on the iPad for a meeting with our London office and even set it so they could only type questions to avoid folks talking over each other. It was pretty easy.
Edited by charlituna - 4/25/13 at 12:44pm

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

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A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

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post #34 of 87
12/192hour = 0.0625
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2/12hours = 0.1666
2/120min = 0.1666
X/120sec = 0.1666 => X= 2 sec

Don't even blink next year...
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Not sure if this has been raised herein, but I feel rather confident that the logo of WWDC-MMXIII tips us off on what to expect from Jony Ive's redesign of iOS's look and feel. This isn't the first time Apple has used an invitation to give somewhat cryptic clues. Furthermore, the design of this logo is markedly different from the past, fitting in with what is allegedly happening behind the scenes. As someone who considers Ive a virtual mentor, I can't wait to savor what is waiting us in less than two months.

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Originally Posted by StruckPaper View Post

Not sure if this has been raised herein, but I feel rather confident that the logo of WWDC-MMXIII tips us off on what to expect from Jony Ive's redesign of iOS's look and feel. This isn't the first time Apple has used an invitation to give somewhat cryptic clues. Furthermore, the design of this logo is markedly different from the past, fitting in with what is allegedly happening behind the scenes. As someone who considers Ive a virtual mentor, I can't wait to savor what is waiting us in less than two months.

 

Interesting thought. Makes sense, too. And there's history to back it up. Hope you are right.

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Originally Posted by taciolobo View Post

12/192hour = 0.0625
________________________
2/12hours = 0.1666
2/120min = 0.1666
X/120sec = 0.1666 => X= 2 sec

Don't even blink next year...

 

I've already started designing my robot.

 
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It MUST be true, then!¡ 1rolleyes.gif

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I don't what to the solution is really. Separate events for Europe and Asia would be great but, as other people have mentioned, what developers want is access to the developers. More events = less time developing the next iterations of iOS and OSX. Bigger event = less time with the developers.

Maybe hold separate OSX and iOS events? That seems a shame when there's so much overlap these days.
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I don't what to the solution is really. Separate events for Europe and Asia would be great but, as other people have mentioned, what developers want is access to the developers. More events = less time developing the next iterations of iOS and OSX. Bigger event = less time with the developers.

Maybe hold separate OSX and iOS events? That seems a shame when there's so much overlap these days.

1) I think the overlap is great. iOS came from Mac OS, and Mac OS has been made much better from things learned by developing efficient frameworks and engines for iOS.

2) I'd love for them to offer more event, events in larger venues, etc., but we need to remember that Apple uses their own engineers for this which pretty much means their home campus is running on a skeleton crew for the week. I can't imagine if these engineers had to do this several weeks a year across the world. They could hire people that specifically just do the training for developers or use underlining within a department but then you're getting the best possible training available. They post the videos online fast enough that I think the way they do it now is better than other suggestions I've seen (which include anything I've stated int the past).

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