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Rumor: Leaked KDDI document claims 'iPhone 5S' pre-orders go live June 20, launch in July

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A document reportedly meant for employees of Japanese telecom KDDI's "au" wireless service has been leaked, showing the carrier will begin taking preorders for Apple's iPhone 5S on June 20 ahead of a launch in July.

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Obtained by French website Nowhereelse.fr., the supposed document looks to be meant for sales floor staff and carries pricing information as well as a few details regarding the as-yet-unannounced iPhone 5S.

While AppleInsider cannot vouch for the document's authenticity, the laminated paper is very similar to the current product and pricing "cheat sheets" referred to by many cell phone dealers and official carrier stores in Japan. It should be noted, however, that the cards can easily be reproduced as some are printed directly at point of sale from a PDF file, with the only distinguishing feature being a company logo.

Written and starred in red is information for the iPhone 5S "new product," which is scheduled for a pre-sale announcement date of June 20 with sales starting in July. Below the release dates is a notation for major feature changes from the iPhone 5, which in this case says the supposed 5S will carry a fingerprint reader, 13-megapixel camera and iOS 7.

The areas highlighted in green offer information regarding au's current monthly plans for the iPhone 5, including LTE flat rate plans and family calling subscription options, as well as a cash back bundle offer for users of the telecom's "hikari" home internet service.

While mere speculation, the information quoted in the purportedly leaked material does jibe with the timeline of Apple's upcoming Worldwide Developers Conference, which is scheduled to take place from June 10 through 14. If the iPhone 5S were to be announced at the conference, it would be one week prior to the June 20 pre-sale date referred to in the supposed KDDI document.

Though enticing, the rumor may not be accurate as Apple CEO Tim Cook hinted at product "surprises" for the fall quarter during the company's latest earnings call. Also, a recent research note from reliable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo noted upgrades to Apple's MacBook lineup will be the highlight of the WWDC, with no indication given as to a new iPhone model launch.
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The iOS 7 thing gives it away as fake. No way is that out in July.
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They've been pulling off teams from OS X for months to accelerate iOS 7 maturation.
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The iOS 7 thing gives it away as fake. No way is that out in July.

When the iOS 7 delay rumors start to hit, it could have been months after the fact. Ive took control of the team in November, and the delay could have been there. But July is barbely "fall" the way Tim Cook mentioned.
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They've been pulling off teams from OS X for months to accelerate iOS 7 maturation.

Any evidence to support this claim?

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Product "surprises" for the fall quarter. Will anyone be surprised by an iPhone 5S? Cook's comments about the fall don't strike me as applying to iPhone, iPad etc
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I don't see how a carrier would even have this level of detail at this point in time. They simply do not need to know, and the floor staff really does not need to know. Seems totally bogus...
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Biometric scanner sounds credible.
Surprised if IOS7 is dropped in June though.
2013 will be the year of biometric scanner on all apple products I think.
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They've been pulling off teams from OS X for months to accelerate iOS 7 maturation.

Are you a former apple engineer?

Just asking...

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They've been pulling off teams from OS X for months to accelerate iOS 7 maturation.

 

Any evidence to support this claim?

 

I think that comes from Gruber:  

 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/04/02/rumor-ios-7-to-see-significant-overhaul-but-behind-schedule

 

In the past, Apple has reportedly used the same method of yanking OSX teams into iOS to meet a deadline.  Apple execs have explained it as liking to behave like a startup.  

 

Others call it, "not hiring enough people".  However, to be fair, they might just need termporary bodies to do mass tweaks to meet a late Jon Ive design change or something.  

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I hope this rumor is true. The time line -- share of wallet, maintaining level revenue/profits, managing yields and quality, managing supply chain and distribution, pulling off a smooth international rollout well in advance of the holiday season, etc -- makes so much more sense than the supposed Fall crunch.
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One of my followers in Japan posted this on twitter about 48 hours ago.

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Are you a former apple engineer?

Just asking...

 

Yeah, he is.

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Are you a former apple engineer?

Just asking...

 

I'm not sure about Apple, but he worked for NeXT for quite some time. I don't recall him ever stirring things up just for the heck of it. He's one of the few guys I'd believe, even without citations.

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Any evidence to support this claim?

 

Just the usual rumors and leaks that become facts without question. Otherwise no, no evidence at all.

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Well, there have been no beta testing for iOS 7 at this point, and usually there is a few months of that, so I am guessing not June/July. If June announces iOS7, then the first public beta, then September for a launch.

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No way Apple will release a new phone before iOS 7 is available. They're not announcing it until WWDC so no way would it be available by July for public release.
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What's with the

 

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iOS6 –> iOS7

 

at the bottom of the listing?  Are they not saying that it will ship with iOS6 but be upgraded to iOS7 later?

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If we are to believe this then that would tend to indicate no significant API changes because developers need time to support it. This does not mean it couldn't have new features (hardware). I would think that adding a finger print scanner, upgrading the camera, etc. would be something more likely for a iPhone 6 name. I would also be very surprised to see iOS 7 coming out without some major additions to the API -- this sounds more like iOS 6.5. I don't buy it.

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The iOS 7 thing gives it away as fake. No way is that out in July.

not like they are coding it from scratch

 

the OS, Siri and iCloud are working. you just have to code the extra features to make them better. the GUI is not that big a deal

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They've been pulling off teams from OS X for months to accelerate iOS 7 maturation.

Allegedly. And it doesn't mean they intend to release iOS 7 before the fall. Truth is that all that rumor might be about is a handful of folks being asked to review code and look for bugs so they don't repeat last years screw ups with the wifi etc
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I'm not sure about Apple, but he worked for NeXT for quite some time. I don't recall him ever stirring things up just for the heck of it. He's one of the few guys I'd believe, even without citations.

No disrespect intended but having worked for NeXT a decade ago or even working for Apple 'a few years ago' doesn't equal knowledge of what is happening inside the company now. True for Woz, Forstall etc as well.
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This is so fake. Apple doesn't tell it's carrier partners about the features or the specs on the phone until they announce them publicly. At most they tell them what cellular technology it will have. There is no way they told anyone at KDDI about their "killer feature", the finger-print sensor. This is exactly the reason Tim Cook explicitly stated there wouldn't be any new products until fall: to set our expectations and try to quell rumors of a new phone this summer. They don't want sales of the iPhone 5 to bottom out before they release the new one this fall.
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This is so fake. Apple doesn't tell it's carrier partners about the features or the specs on the phone until they announce them publicly. At most they tell them what cellular technology it will have. There is no way they told anyone at KDDI about their "killer feature", the finger-print sensor. This is exactly the reason Tim Cook explicitly stated there wouldn't be any new products until fall: to set our expectations and try to quell rumors of a new phone this summer. They don't want sales of the iPhone 5 to bottom out before they release the new one this fall.

not true

apple has to test and certify their phones on carriers' networks like everyone else. they might use special test units but they still have to do this

 

and its not like they announce a product and ship it. lots of work to be done with carriers to get the phones added to inventory, financial and other systems. subsidy and other contracts have to be signed. not like the phones just arrive at the stores with no notice

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i may be reading it wrong, but doesn't that say something like "upgradeable from iOS6 to iOS7 (when released)?
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Originally Posted by rcarlton View Post
i may be reading it wrong, but doesn't that say something like "upgradeable from iOS6 to iOS7 (when released)?

 

Dear sweet heavens, I certainly hope they don't do that. It would be a disaster.

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No disrespect intended but having worked for NeXT a decade ago or even working for Apple 'a few years ago' doesn't equal knowledge of what is happening inside the company now. True for Woz, Forstall etc as well.

 

 

I am sure that is true for Woz, as he can't keep his mouth shut, but I would be more hesitant to believe a former Apple or Next engineer than some other sources. Former engineers likely have friends and associates they still are in contact with. Employees aren't supposed to talk, but they do. 

 

This doesn't mean the rumors are true, but iOS is due for an update soon. 

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not true

apple has to test and certify their phones on carriers' networks like everyone else. they might use special test units but they still have to do this

 

and its not like they announce a product and ship it. lots of work to be done with carriers to get the phones added to inventory, financial and other systems. subsidy and other contracts have to be signed. not like the phones just arrive at the stores with no notice

 

 

Right. It is like when the iPhone recently went on T-Mobile. Prior to it being officially supported, the iPhone lacked certain functionality on T-Mobile like visual voicemail. After it was supported, a carrier update was released adding features that had to be implemented on the carrier end. 

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First off iPhone 5S is not a surprise product so I'm not sure why people correlate what Tim has said with that products release cycle. In other words the next iPhone is not a surprise product at all. Second I find it less than believable that sales literature, with launch dates, would be printed this early.
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Exactly!

A new iPhone should not be a surprise to anyone. I don't see how Cook's comments apply to anything currently being produced. Surprises imply things not currently produced by Apple.
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Product "surprises" for the fall quarter. Will anyone be surprised by an iPhone 5S? Cook's comments about the fall don't strike me as applying to iPhone, iPad etc
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Strange double post
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I am wondering if someone in Japan is confused.  I could see Apple announcing the rumored plastic iPhone for developing nations at WWDC and releasing it soon after.  I don't expect the rumored plasic iPhone will offer anything special in terms of features, so giving it its own event would seem pointless.  Making the announcement at WWDC and touting potential the impact on App Store sales seems like a more reasonable way to go.

 

Then again, I wouldn't expect Japan to get the plastic iPhone, but it is close to China and places I would expect to receive it. 

 

Everything is speculation at this point.  I am not saying I believe a word of any of this, but I find it more likely we will see the a cheap, plastic iPhone before the fall and it could explain why all these rumors of something coming early summer keep popping up everywhere. 

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Product "surprises" for the fall quarter. Will anyone be surprised by an iPhone 5S? Cook's comments about the fall don't strike me as applying to iPhone, iPad etc

That's the way I took it as well.

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No way Apple will release a new phone before iOS 7 is available. They're not announcing it until WWDC so no way would it be available by July for public release.

I remember an iPad launching ahead of the next iOS version bump by several months. Anyone else recall that? I think it was the original iPad... Or iPad 3.

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This would be a schedule like the original iPhones, however there is other reasons not to believe it.
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The iOS 7 thing gives it away as fake. No way is that out in July.
ios is out when a new iPhone is out, as for this is the only thing guaranteed true, is it will feature IOS 7, these IOS delayed rumors are probably false as for the latest feature update was January, and the latest major update seprember(that would have 10 months between) so it could be anything.
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i may be reading it wrong, but doesn't that say something like "upgradeable from iOS6 to iOS7 (when released)?

 

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Dear sweet heavens, I certainly hope they don't do that. It would be a disaster.

The text says "iOS6 -> iOS7 (innovative UI is applied)"

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Not surprised if it's true.
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who cares about the 5S...... the iPhordable will be the big game changer for Apple.  China Mobile here they come........

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That's groan worthy all up and down the continent.

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