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Analyst: Apple to release Retina display iPad mini models in Q3 and early 2014 [u]

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While customers waiting for Apple to launch a Retina display-toting iPad mini may have to hold out until the third quarter, one analyst believes the company is already preparing a third-generation device set for debut in the first quarter of 2014.

Update: NPD DisplaySearch analyst Richard Shim is now saying that Apple will release two Retina iPad mini versions, "One in the second half of this year, then one in Q1 of 2014. The Q1 device will have a Retina display plus an updated processor." The move would be much like last year's debut of the slightly tweaked fourth-generation iPad, which hit store shelves roughly six months after the third-generation model.

A previous version of this report cited Shim as saying the second-generation iPad mini wouldn't see release until 2014. The below article has been modified to reflect the new information.

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NPD DisplaySearch analyst Richard Shim said a Retina-capable iPad mini is set for release in the third quarter of this year, while a second model is is already being readied for the first quarter of 2014, reports CNET. Apple is widely rumored to be including a high-resolution LCD panel in an upcoming iteration of the 7.9-inch iPad, which would bring it in line with the company's latest iOS device offerings.

"We're looking at Q1 2014," Shim said, referring to the third-generation iPad mini. "The date's in flux."

Up in the air, according to Shim, is the screen technology Apple plans to utilize in the next-gen iPad mini. He speculates that the iPhone 5's low-temperature polysilicon (LTPS) display will be used, though yield rates for such panels become increasingly slim when screen size is increased.

Another concern is the viability of releasing a follow-up iPad mini at a price point comparable, or equal to, the current generation. Mass production would undoubtedly affect parts costs for Apple, which has traditionally tagged refreshed products at the same cost as outgoing models.

Shim's statements echo those of noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who in April said setbacks pertaining to adequate display production could see a later than expected release for the so-called "iPad mini 2."

Previous estimates also pointed to a quarter three release for the as yet unannounced tablet, which would be consistent with Apple's usual yearly refresh cycle.
post #2 of 27
And the FUD continues.
(yawn)
Edited by RobM - 5/5/13 at 11:16pm
post #3 of 27
with all that delay, why not consider IGZO display instead?
when will they finally switch to it?? it's much needed
post #4 of 27
Oh, Analysts say that a Retina iPad mini is not coming out until 2014? Do they know everything about Apple and the panel makers they plan on using? What happens if they are wrong? Can people sue these people for giving out false information coming from industry experts?

These analysts sometimes have a lot of nerve with their predictions.
post #5 of 27
Someone needs to shut these analysts up. They have zero clue what's going on and are simply gaming the system.
post #6 of 27
Oooooooh, an "analyst" "thinks". Well, that won't do any good to the shares.
Can't analysts just be fired in general so the companies themselves can give accurate information regarding their products?
post #7 of 27
I'd like to see some big corp, like Apple or any of them really,sue their asses for inane, stupid, ill-founded, poorly researched, baseless reporting.

The press always stumps up with ye olde fourth estate argument and swans off into the sunset smelling of roses of course.

Best thing Apple can do is just prove them wrong and ignore them.
Actions speak louder than words - despite what the press might have people believe.

Some of these clowns have to say something, anything will do just to justify whatever inflated salary they're getting paid.

Yet again, another story catered for the sharemarket - which will have zero impact on Apple in the real world.
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SEC or whoever the governing body is really needs to put in some regulation on what all these analysts are spewing!  

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Originally Posted by radster360 View Post

SEC or whoever the governing body is really needs to put in some regulation on what all these analysts are spewing!  

Or you (like anyone who is the target audience for these analysts, and is essentially paying their salary) could decide whether it is valuable information to you, and act or not act on it.

The people who stand to make a lot of money based on betting/investing using analysts' information are in a FAR better position to regulate what is out there by simply not demanding their information anymore than any bureaucrat could ever be.
post #10 of 27
I predict X will happen, and X will have an A display. But because things are in flux X may not happen, and because of yield issues X may not have an A display.

I can't be wrong!
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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post #11 of 27
I like how we have tiers of analysts. There's your bog standard analyst then there's your "noted" analyst.
post #12 of 27

You, sir, just gave the standard formula for error-free analysis.

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And the FUD continues.
(yawn)

you keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

FUD is a term to describe what competitors do to state you won't or can't deliver.  An analyst tossing out an optimistic (2-5 months) view of an iPad Mini Retina is not FUD.

 

Ballmer stating that Apple doesn't know smart phones is FUD

Adobe saying that the Apple is breaking the Internet by not allowing flash or java on the iPhone is FUD.

 

An Analyst saying a new and improved model is 'any day now' (in corporate time) is not.

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Oh, Analysts say that a Retina iPad mini is not coming out until 2014? Do they know everything about Apple and the panel makers they plan on using? What happens if they are wrong? Can people sue these people for giving out false information coming from industry experts?

These analysts sometimes have a lot of nerve with their predictions.

AI Article: 

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"NPD DisplaySearch analyst Richard Shim said a Retina-capable iPad mini is set for release in the third quarter of this year,"

 

 

Did you ever think you have a learning disability?   Lucky for you they can't sue people for that.

post #15 of 27
We all know that a retina display mini is coming and it will be a world wide hit. I have the iPad mini and it is amazing. Now add retina display and a faster chip and you have a mobile powerhouse!!!!
post #16 of 27
Wait, so we're supposed to believe Apple will release a retina iPad mini in Q4 and then a new one again in Q1 2014? That makes zero sense.
post #17 of 27
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Oooooooh, an "analyst" "thinks". Well, that won't do any good to the shares.
Can't analysts just be fired in general so the companies themselves can give accurate information regarding their products?

 

AAPL is up 1.58% 38 minutes prior to open.  Your 'Analysis' seems to be flawed.   Can we fire you?  And it will be down sometime today...  Does that mean this info is actually affecting the market (or more importantly, my life?)?

 

Analysts are a creature of your/our imagination or lack thereof, and the concept of wide distribution of 'insider' info that in the past only wall street/fleet street types were privy to.

 

This Website is basically named for the type of person you want to fire.  We want any and all information to make decisions or feel good about the decisions we just made.  

 

These Analysts are paid to feed two monsters.  The craving for news that affects our psyche, and the pockets of enterpeneurs who take ad clicks, subscriptions, , and private reports (the stuff we don't get to see) sent directly to competitors, wealthy private investors, and potentially themselves who may be playing the market.

post #18 of 27
They have no clue, so they just throw out 2 dates.. whichever turns out to be closer, they can declare victory! 1biggrin.gif
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Wait, so we're supposed to believe Apple will release a retina iPad mini in Q4 and then a new one again in Q1 2014? That makes zero sense.

 

The article said Q3.   Why the revisionism?

 

 

did the iPad 4 make sense then?

 

 

there was a lot of argument at the time of the iPad4 release that it was timed for 2 reasons

1) to maintain the new connector technology across all 'top of the line' devices

2) the technology was ready (A6X)

and now in hindsight

3) better to release a product in a holiday quarter than wait 6 months to maintain some tick/tock bi annual schedule, especially when you want to maintain a projected profit margin for the iPad line (would anybody buy a iPad 3 at $499 when the new iPad Mini was released?)

4) maybe they knew that economy was trending to flat line and that the psychology of 'new' would be better during the holiday quarter.

 

 

an Ipad mini Retina is the same issue as all in mobile devices: performance(speed/interface-quality)/weight/batterylife/cost-to-build(profit).   Maybe the performance vector has improved and/or battery efficiencies have improved, and the time to strike is now, and in 10 months, another technology will drop into line.   Heck for all we know, it won't be the same Mini, maybe a 7" (never say never). 

 

It could be a feature in iOS  7 that requires an A7 capable chip set, and they can't drive performance into the batteries this year... so better to have a 'back to school iPad Mini Retina' that is slightly imperfect compared to a A7 chipped iPad10", and then 'fix it' in the Spring (or enable it across all flagship devices in a dot release)?

 

Finally, having 6 month releases make more sense with one or 2 Big Monster competitiors (Samsung, Amazon).   When you have a 5 year lead (iPhone 2G, iPad 1), annual releases are fine.  Remember how many tablets there were in 2009?  now, what... 4 that are credible? (apple samsung, asus, and dare i say Microsoft?)   With Samsung able to must a credible integrated digital life, and Amazon's scorched earth pricing policy, Apple needs to maintain leadership... It can't take years off (see Microsoft with Windows or Office releases) to build quantum great devices.

 

Zero sense.   not quite.

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Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff View Post

The article said Q3.   Why the revisionism?


did the iPad 4 make sense then?
Sorry I misread. No if a retina mini comes in July - September time frame it wouldn't surprise me to see an upgraded one in March.
post #21 of 27
Originally Posted by OnlyShawn View Post
Or you (like anyone who is the target audience for these analysts, and is essentially paying their salary) could decide whether it is valuable information to you, and act or not act on it.

 

Huh? That'd involve getting all news sites to stop reposting their drivel. It isn't going to happen. What CAN happen, however, is being fined a few million for lying.

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post #22 of 27
That's right AI, keep whoring out these Analyst reports and validating their existence. It's because of sites like this, that continually and mindlessly propagate garbage for page views, that these hacks have any influence and credibility.
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by maccherry View Post

We all know that a retina display mini is coming and it will be a world wide hit. I have the iPad mini and it is amazing. Now add retina display and a faster chip and you have a mobile powerhouse!!!!

The current iPads are plenty powerful enough for what they are designed to do. Increases in CPU speed, memory and GPU to drive a Retina screen all need to be balanced with battery capacity. A mobile powerhouse seems like an oxymoron to me. The whole purpose of an iPad mini is for light work, media consumption and  portability. It already does that. I bought the first iPad as sort of novelty and it did suffer a bit from lack of memory, but the more memory you have, the more battery drain. I currently have the iPad 3 with LTE and the iPad mini with LTE. Honestly, I don't really use them that much except to do some light web surfing on the patio or in bed and check email in the kitchen each morning.

 

I still prefer my iMac as it is a better experience for most web pages and is infinitely better for any creative, typing or composition work, but to each their own. Personally, I usually buy whatever Apple puts out to see how I like it. You never know how something is going to fit into your daily usage patterns until you give it a try over a period of time. I'll probably upgrade on a two year cycle like I do with my iPhone. I'm certainly not going to rush out and buy a new mini just because it has Retina. I have the Retina iPad now and it is really not that big of a deal in my opinion, although I do like my rMBP, but that is more for the additional screen real estate than anything else.

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post #24 of 27
If a iPad Mini 3 is going to be released in Q1 2014 with Retina display and updated processor - what's the iPad Mini 2 they say here will be released later this year going to have different from the current model?
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If a iPad Mini 3 is going to be released in Q1 2014 with Retina display and updated processor - what's the iPad Mini 2 they say here will be released later this year going to have different from the current model?

well the update pretty much says

 

Apple will release two Retina iPad mini versions, "One in the second half of this year, then one in Q1 of 2014...."

 

Other than giving some differentiation between an iPad 4 and Mini Retina... I can't see a Retina Mini without some processor tweaks (at least GPU tweaks) to maintain the 'snappiness' of the experience.

 

 

Seems like '2nd half' is different than Q3 in the update as well.  Sounds more like October than August.

post #26 of 27
So they believe IPad mini is going to repeat the iPads history?
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Originally Posted by SCProfessor View Post
As I said before, I can't tell crap of a difference on display from the ipad1 to ipad4. 

 

Go purchase some better eyes.


Get another angle because retina is fos. 

 

What's FOS an acronym for?

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