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A deluge of rain in New York City made its way into the glass cube atop Apple's Fifth Avenue store on Wednesday, leaving employees scrambling to mop up the mess.

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Workers clean up Apple's Fifth Ave Store Wednesday morning. Photo by Errol Rappaport, via New York Post.


The flagship store, which is open 24 hours a day, was flooded as of around 8 a.m. on Wednesday, a customer told the New York Post. The incident reportedly started with a slow leak before water suddenly began pouring into the store.

"Everyone started scrambling, moving tables," Errol Rappaport told the Post. "It didn't look like there were any electrical issues, otherwise they would have evacuated the store."

At the time there were said to be about 15 customers in the store. Employees reportedly hurried to remove the water that was on the floor, but no products appeared to have been damaged.

Most of the water had been mopped up a few hours later, and the store remained open the entire time.

Wednesday's report cited unnamed workers who blamed the incident on a "drainage problem" stemming from construction done at the Fifth Avenue location in 2011. In a $6.7 million effort, Apple simplified the 32-foot glass cube that serves as the entrance to the store, reducing it from 90 panes of glass to just 15 larger, seamless pieces.

Customers enter the cube before taking a staircase down below, to where the 24-hour store is located. The cube, which is one of the most photographed landmarks in New York City, was designed and even paid for by late company co-founder Steve Jobs.

Heavy rains were seen throughout New York's five boroughs Wednesday morning, with localized street and highway flooding in some areas, according to WNBC 4 New York.

The entrance to Apple's Fifth Ave Store was covered with sandbags last October in anticipation of Hurricane Sandy. There was no indication that any damage or major leaks occurred when the superstorm hit.
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A deluge of rain in New York City made its way into the glass cube atop Apple's Fifth Avenue store on Wednesday, leaving employees scrambling to mop up the mess.

Wednesday's report cited unnamed workers who blamed the incident on a "drainage problem" stemming from construction done at the Fifth Avenue location in 2011. In a $6.7 million effort, Apple simplified the 32-foot glass cube that serves as the entrance to the store, reducing it from 90 panes of glass to just 15 larger, seamless pieces.

 

15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

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not sure why this is news worthy.  I mean, did anyone drown and die?


Edited by tooltalk - 5/8/13 at 10:59am
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Underground store, not at the top of a tall hill, big hole mostly covered with glass...  Was wondering when this would happen...

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Most of the water had been mopped mopped up a few hours later, and the store remained open the entire time.
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not sure why this is news worthy.  I mean, did anyone drown?

no. because when you mop mop, nobody drowns.
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Having seen a Macquarium I just had the most interesting idea for a new store design.

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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

Hmmm I don't know, maybe it got under the glass or through the doorway.
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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

 

Most likely cause would be flex of the panels creating a puddling situation on the roof.  

 

The number of panels are also routinely mis-reported.  There are many more than fifteen panels that make up the structure and it's a reasonably complicated arrangement with internal glass buttressing and so forth, so it's not like it's just a simple glass box.  

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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??


Nowhere was it written that the water came in through the glass cube itself.  The article clearly states that it was a "drainage problem" which has me believing it was something else like drain grates being plugged-up or something.

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Nowhere was it written that the water came in through the glass cube itself.  The article clearly states that it was a "drainage problem" which has me believing it was something else like drain grates being plugged-up or something.

Nowhere but in the very first sentence.

 

"A deluge of rain in New York City made its way into the glass cube atop Apple's Fifth Avenue store on Wednesday..."

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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

 

Most likely cause would be flex of the panels creating a puddling situation on the roof.  

 

The number of panels are also routinely mis-reported.  There are many more than fifteen panels that make up the structure and it's a reasonably complicated arrangement with internal glass buttressing and so forth, so it's not like it's just a simple glass box.  

I'm going with the joint where the end of the panels meet the ground (plaza surface). Or maybe just through the doorway itself.

 

Surprised this has just happened. Seems to me we've had much stronger rains than this over the time since the cube was rebuilt.

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Rainwater dripped into the store before the panels were replaced, though not in the volume seen in this picture. A small amount would make it through the doorway, where it would pool before cascading around the stair.
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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

If the panels are assembled together in any manner, then  "seamless glass panels" is an oxymoron.

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Nowhere but in the very first sentence.

 

"A deluge of rain in New York City made its way into the glass cube atop Apple's Fifth Avenue store on Wednesday..."


Oh please.  This is typical media-spin that makes it sound like water somewhere made its way through the cube structure, or possibly through the cube itself.

I did a little quick search on more detail regarding this.  Looks like wherever AI scraped the article from, some details were conveniently left out.  

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/flood_at_the_fifth_avenue_apple_WnpmuPMAgrPxHj7P0u8fcI

Here's the part that stands out from THIS article:

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According to one worker, today's deluge of water may have been due to problems with construction completed last year on the roof of the store.

"It's because of the construction they did last year on the roof," the worker said. "They didn't do it right. There are large flat stones up there [that you walk across as you go into the store]. And with the heavy rain this morning, [the water] came through."

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The glass cube DOES NOT have large flat stones "up there" and not much of a roof to put it on.  AI's story sounded fishy to begin with.  Sounds like someone wanted to make it sound like it was a flaw in the glass structure itself, probably for click-bait.

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Oh please.  This is typical media-spin that makes it sound like water somewhere made its way through the cube structure, or possibly through the cube itself.

I was addressing your comment that nowhere in the AI article did it state water got into the glass cube. It did. That doesn't mean the AI article was accurate. 

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I was addressing your comment that nowhere in the AI article did it state water got into the glass cube. It did. That doesn't mean the AI article was accurate. 


Ah... you know what Gator? I can see how my comment could have been taken like that and for that I apologize.  I was reading it from a different perspective and immediately saw holes in the article - pun intended. :)

Pisses me off that AI published that article with some key info missing.

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This wouldnt have happened if Jobs was alive. /s
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Ah... you know what Gator? I can see how my comment could have been taken like that and for that I apologize.  I was reading it from a different perspective and immediately saw holes in the article - pun intended. :)

Pisses me off that AI published that article with some key info missing.

Thanks!

 

And I agree that AI appears to occasionally omit or mangle important facts in an effort to make articles more interesting.

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The front is always open, that's how it got in - the floor is also really flat at the entrance so a rapid build up of water could easily come down the stairs.

It rained this morning like I've never seen before in New York - it was literally like being under a waterfall.

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Few stores will stay open when flooded, so apple must have worked hard for it to stay opened 24/7 this week.
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"Most of the water had been mopped up a few hours later, and the store remained open the entire time."

 

Talk about defining "Slow News Day"......

 

As to "The Cube": it's a reasonably small area of the belowground total area so water entry through the belowground's ceiling could be from other parts of that plaza.

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not sure why this is news worthy.  I mean, did anyone drown and die?

I was interested to see it. They need to take a look at this and prevent future floods in this underground store. As some who's looking to someday build and underground home, I find this interesting. And yes, I'm serious.
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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

Shouldn't it then be 1 seamless piece of glass?
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The front is always open, that's how it got in - the floor is also really flat at the entrance so a rapid build up of water could easily come down the stairs.

It rained this morning like I've never seen before in New York - it was literally like being under a waterfall.

Then you haven't been in New York long.
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not sure why this is news worthy.  I mean, did anyone drown and die?

Maybe because this website covers Apple news and that Apple's flagship store in NYC being flooded is actually, for this website, worth mentioning. It would not be newsworthy on national TV.
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This wouldnt have happened if Jobs was alive. /s

Oh yeah right! Cause if Steve would have been here, he would have come down to New York this week and he'd have put sand bags in front of the entrance and he'd have helped clean up. NO! He could not have helped in any way, just like Cook didn't. Also, it's apparently because of the ceiling and floor up on the plaza the store was flooded. Jobs certainly helped a great deal when planning these renovations: they ocurred in 2011, when Jobs was still CEO, just putting it out there!
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Oh yeah right! Cause if Steve would have been here, he would have come down to New York this week and he'd have put sand bags in front of the entrance and he'd have helped clean up. NO! He could not have helped in any way, just like Cook didn't. Also, it's apparently because of the ceiling and floor up on the plaza the store was flooded. Jobs certainly helped a great deal when planning these renovations: they ocurred in 2011, when Jobs was still CEO, just putting it out there!

 

You quoted and then ignored a sarcasm tag...

 

But anyway, I hope the same design wasn't used on the yacht. /s

 

That's another sarcasm tag, that is.

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Oh please.  This is typical media-spin that makes it sound like water somewhere made its way through the cube structure, or possibly through the cube itself.

I did a little quick search on more detail regarding this.  Looks like wherever AI scraped the article from, some details were conveniently left out.  

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/flood_at_the_fifth_avenue_apple_WnpmuPMAgrPxHj7P0u8fcI

Here's the part that stands out from THIS article:

=============



According to one worker, today's deluge of water may have been due to problems with construction completed last year on the roof of the store.

"It's because of the construction they did last year on the roof," the worker said. "They didn't do it right. There are large flat stones up there [that you walk across as you go into the store]. And with the heavy rain this morning, [the water] came through."

=============

The glass cube DOES NOT have large flat stones "up there" and not much of a roof to put it on.  AI's story sounded fishy to begin with.  Sounds like someone wanted to make it sound like it was a flaw in the glass structure itself, probably for click-bait.


Maybe they should have said "Water leaked through the sidewalk into Apple's silly underground store."?

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Then you haven't been in New York long.

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8 years.

Lemme see, 8 years and you live in Brooklyn, I'm guessing you're a hipster.
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not sure why this is news worthy.  I mean, did anyone drown and die?

 

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15 seamless glass panels yet a significant amount of water made it inside the seamless cube during a rainstorm??

No failure of Apple gets by you.

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This wouldnt have happened if Jobs was alive. /s

All the more evidence Tim Cook needs to go.



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not sure why this is news worthy.  I mean, did anyone drown and die?

One hopes that loss of life does not have to occur for information to be deemed worthy of our attention. But feel free to disagree.

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Dang, all those moisture detectors going off in iDevices invalidating the Apple Warranty! 1biggrin.gif
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Dang, all those moisture detectors going off in iDevices invalidating the Apple Warranty! 1biggrin.gif

Too funny!
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