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Apple needs to shore up its truck business. They've turned themselves from a content creation business into a content consumption business. 

1. Were the hell is iLife '13 (or for that matter '12)
2. Aperture (level it up)
3. Mac Pros (a new range of machines is needed)

4. Blu-ray playback / burning support in OSX? (stop ignoring blu-ray and put some burners in your machines)

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Unnecessary and rude. Makes you look like a jerk. Particularly when you can add someone to your ignore list and their posts do disappear, more or less (you still have to see if they are quoted but otherwise

I don't put anyone on my ignore list for any reason. I want to listen to all points of view, even the ones that tick me off (like this one).

Btw, if I didn't think it was 'necessary' I wouldn't have posted it.

We're all adults here posting anonymously in an internet forum, and I am sure you/he will survive the rudeness.
post #83 of 142
Nice article.
When reading about Apple building those huge headquarters made of glass, it's difficult not to understand, at least a little, how the company can be seen as some kind of 'big brother'. I'm not implying anything bad, just imagining Tim Cook having a conference in a huge room, with glass and metal all around him, in this perfect building, the world practically at his feet. 1smile.gif
post #84 of 142

Samsung: "You need our chips.  We're too big to dump."

 

Apple: "Wanna bet?"

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Apple needs to shore up its truck business. They've turned themselves from a content creation business into a content consumption business. 


1. Were the hell is iLife '13 (or for that matter '12)

2. Aperture (level it up)

3. Mac Pros (a new range of machines is needed)
4. Blu-ray playback / burning support in OSX? (stop ignoring blu-ray and put some burners in your machines)

All great points.
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Originally Posted by ApplePi View Post

Apple needs to shore up its truck business. They've turned themselves from a content creation business into a content consumption business. 

1. Were the hell is iLife '13 (or for that matter '12)
2. Aperture (level it up)
3. Mac Pros (a new range of machines is needed)

4. Blu-ray playback / burning support in OSX? (stop ignoring blu-ray and put some burners in your machines)

 

Uh, no.  Apple has evolved from a Mac + iPod business into an iPhone + iPad + Mac + iPod business.

In that order.  And if you're complaining about Apple products being more for consumption than for creation,

then you're about 7 years behind the times.  The iPod's success should have triggered that response.

 

But, if we really must talk about Apple's "trucks," I'd say that Mac sales are doing just fine overall.

As a whole, Mac sales have outpaced Wintel PC sales for what?  The last 5 years?  10 years?

All without any factory Blu Ray playback / burning support.  That will simply never happen.  Ever.

Apple has zero interest in providing Blu Ray (or DVD) support long-term.  It's all about iTunes + iCloud now.

The phrase "bag of hurt" comes to mind here.

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I just wish that Apple would spend a fraction of those tens of billions on improving text services for OS X. I waste hours because the spell-checking and particularly the lookup for misspellings is so dreadful. And why can't OS X (and thus all the apps that depend on it) output documents in ePub as easily as in PDF? We've been in the mobile age for almost a decade and Macs still think we output to paper.

And why is moving documents from applications on my Mac to those on my iPhone or iPad such a hassle? Why do I have to use parallel apps with iCloud sharing? Why aren't there send to commands that make sending documents between devices as easy as printing?
 

 

They don't want you to send files from your computer to your phone. They want those files to be automatically synced. We aren't there yet, but we're getting there.

 

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Holy shit. The AI moderator is truly trolling me.

 

Welcome to AI, it's nice isn't it?

 

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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


Unnecessary and rude. Makes you look like a jerk. Particularly when you can add someone to your ignore list and their posts do disappear, more or less (you still have to see if they are quoted but otherwise

 

Totally. It's incredible that people are attacked for having an opinion and the only answer they get is "you are WROOOONG". It's like kindergarten.

 

I don't really find iOS stale, but it's mainly thanks to the many apps that are available. The grid can be a little boring sometimes, but I don't see how they can make it better without introducing widgets, which would mean that they'd have to add a separate window listing all apps, and we would find ourselves with android. Apple added folders so that people can arrange more apps together but that wasn't a good answer imo. If there are too many apps on the screen, I now find myself with a grid of folders, which isn't better than having a grid of apps. I like widgets, and I like to have a springboard too. On Mac it's not like I always see the springboard, I only need it when I need to open an app, and even there I can type its name. I wish Apple added a single widget screen that is the first screen visible when accessing the phone, and kept springboard. They would have to find a way to keep the distinct iPhone look in their widgets, maybe by incapsulating them in the same rectangles with rounded corners they use for apps, just bigger. Or just use bigger rectangles. I think the approach that windows took for the homescreen is good and I wonder how Ive is going to make something new while avoiding making it too similar to what already exists so that people won't complain that they copied it.

post #88 of 142
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Nothing says "stale" more than Android's weather clock, courtesy of HTC's old winmo phones.

I don't know what you mean by "android's weather clock". Android itself never had a weather clock, HTC phones did. And they just changed it.

post #89 of 142
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Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post

 

Uh, no.  Apple has evolved from a Mac + iPod business into an iPhone + iPad + Mac + iPod business.

In that order.  And if you're complaining about Apple products being more for consumption than for creation,

then you're about 7 years behind the times.  The iPod's success should have triggered that response.

 

But, if we really must talk about Apple's "trucks," I'd say that Mac sales are doing just fine overall.

As a whole, Mac sales have outpaced Wintel PC sales for what?  The last 5 years?  10 years?

All without any factory Blu Ray playback / burning support.  That will simply never happen.  Ever.

Apple has zero interest in providing Blu Ray (or DVD) support long-term.  It's all about iTunes + iCloud now.

The phrase "bag of hurt" comes to mind here.

I'm not against them having iPhone and iPad sales ahead of mac sales as those are the bigger sellers. But with that much money in the bank they shouldn't fall behind on their pro business and that's exactly what they've been doing.

As for blu-ray what does it really hurt to have blu-ray compatibility in the OS and blu-ray burners either external and/or in the Mac Pro? ITunes downloads are a totally different kind of technology. It's not a zero sum game with these two, they can have both. Especially for their pro hardware which has always been very media centric. It's not going to cut into their iTunes downlaods anymore than their superdrives currently cut into sales of SD resolution iTunes movies. But for a content creator like myself it's a huge red flag to me that the future of video work is not on a mac. 

post #90 of 142

They keep on hiring a lot of people to answer that demand of professional applications. 

The bigger they get, the harder it will be for the executive team to control everything. 

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Almost all of which was due to analysts me their baseless crap talking. Not anything Apple or hasn't done.
Not really true. Apple sat quietly by and unlike most corps that have good pr firms, didn't say anything to rebuke the negativity. Secondly apple has been very slow to respond to reasonable changes. For example; a bigger screen should have been launched a while back. Once I picked up the bigger sized screens I immediately saw the benefit, especially for those that don't see as well. They really fell behind the ball in buying back shares. If they had initiated a big buy back 4-6 months earlier they could have pushed out the shorts. & stabilizes the price when it was in free fall. They've been saying for years they would have a streaming music business, but it hasn't materialized. Yet, google best them with their own. To say apple isn't at all responsible for its share price drop isn't exactly true. Yes, I think it's way oversold, but that doesn't excuse apple from part of the blame for its share price falling.
post #92 of 142

And, according to rumors, their own iRadio will be more akin to Pandora than to Spotify. Google music is a very good mix of personal library and streaming. People can listen to whatever artist they like, and they can add specific artists, albums or songs to their favorite, making them appear in their standard library. That is a feature I've been waiting from spotify since its launch. Right now you can only star songs, not even albums or artists. There's no easy way to find everything that I like in a clear way apart from a list of all starred songs. Apple already has iTunes, and I hope that their streaming service will work like this.

Google will appear as the first bringing 3D cities in google maps directly as well as a streaming music service. Apple will appear as if they are just following the trend to the average user. That's not good for their image.

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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


None of your list actually needs Apple to go near a 'real' television. In fact several of your 'where' list have nothing to do with iOS or even Apple but outside issues like copyrights and studio SOP, Internet bandwidths etc.

Agreed

 

The more I see it, the more Apple is waiting for the OTA/Cable chasm to cross to internet media (live streaming).   At that point, the 'TV' will be a legacy device to access public cable access and low power vhf broadcasters.   I see Netflix as the one who will drive people to an internet only delivery system, and that will then drive Cable/Content-Producers to Apple and Samsung and beg for a competitive solution (an App on AppleTV).  Problem solved.

 

the TL;DR version is:  Apple TV problem is a content problem.   Trying to solve it in HW is a fool's folly (same sort of issue with radio... the iPhone doesn't have an FM receiver.... why... the internet fixed that).

post #94 of 142
I wonder what some people will do when 2014 comes around and we have Apple branded television sets available for purchase. Will they be screaming that Steve Jobs would never have done it?
post #95 of 142
Another DE(a)D thumbsuck. Nothing to see here ...
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Originally Posted by realitychecks View Post


Android doesn't have a weather clock. HTC does. I believe each version of sense had a different version. The current one IMO is absolutely hideous. Yet still better looking than Samsung's. But that's not saying much.

 

That is the alternative to Apple's "staleness", the Comic Sans on your "life companion", a shitty clock which approximates what you can see out the window, and guess what it has "easy mode" so the "static screens of icons" extend beyond the launcher and across all the home screens.

 

If this is the crap you want, go grab some some of this "freshness".

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post #97 of 142
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Originally Posted by Sid Knowles View Post

Someone needs to plot some graphs superimposing profit, market cap, money etc. for Apple, Amazon, Google etc. so that we can see if Apple is really doomed.

 

Wait for Philip Elmer DeWitt to do it, then it'll be on here in 5 minutes as a new story.

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What?

Your anger has caused you to make no sense.

What do non stock Android features have to do with staleness? What does HTC have to do with stock Android? And also what does any of this have to do with my personal opinion that iOS is stale? I didn't badmouth iOS. I stated that in my usage due to my preferences I find it stale.

Does that hurt your feelings?

 

Most people do not use "stock" Android.

 

Most people use Samsung's variant.

 

Buy an LG Nexus 4 phone or wait until the Galaxy Nexus based on the S4 if you have a lazy $650.

 

As a Nexus 4 owner I'm just trying to figure out what you mean by "stale" and what is so different about Android's "static grids of icons".

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post #99 of 142
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You mean like they got away with the poor launch of MobileMe, or those 'every cell phone does it' antenna issues. Steve never admitted that Apple failed etc

 

Right. He fires most of MobileMe and reinvests and produces iCloud and more. He showed through experts that this antennae gate was bs that 99% of users never experienced. Who in the hell apologizes for that? You seem to make it clear you want to, so bend over if it makes you feel better.

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Let me translate then. An Apple television set would have to be more than a screen. Apple would need to completely redefine how we get full content. And I feel that apple is the ONLY company as of right now who could do so. And I think the world would benefit from such.

Jesus Christ.

 

Save your myth for someone who cares.

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Originally Posted by isaidso View Post

"Insulting to those that do". Insulting...?

Please don't use words you clearly don't grasp the actual meaning of when it's insulting to those that do.

 

A numbnuts responds to a short-hand comment about an dereliction by the Op-Ed most certainly misusing concept of the Laws of Physics and you get pissy that a Mechanical Engineer calls him an idiot for its misuse. Deal with it. The Laws of Physics have not a damn thing to do with the Theory of Economics and Financial Markets.

 

Only an idiot equates the two together. You might misconstrue the use of genetic algorithms and applied mathematics that can be used within the Physical Sciences to aide in models we design to improve our understand of the Physical Universe but the Universe most certainly doesn't use such primitive and incomplete theories to exist.

 

Go defend a a journalist who never worked for Apple. I as a NeXT/Apple alumnus will most certainly call him out on false statements attempting to enhance his Opinion-Editorial when it damn well suits me.

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Originally Posted by Sid Knowles View Post

Someone needs to plot some graphs superimposing profit, market cap, money etc. for Apple, Amazon, Google etc. so that we can see if Apple is really doomed.

 

I think its pretty clear Apple won't be doom some time with the amount of cash they have.  But that doesnt means it won't start shrinking or lose major markets. That the problem with tech, most industrials company change slowly, up or down, but tech could rise and collapse in a short period of time.

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Originally Posted by realitychecks View Post

By stale I literally mean that the homescreen is boring.

 

 

How would you improve upon the iPhone home screen?
 
Aesthetic changes or functional changes?
 
Personally I like that iOS sort of gets out of the way; there are very few software barriers between powering on the device and accessing the applications.
post #104 of 142

DED disparages the idea of Apple buying Dropbox but in fact Apple did have them in their sights.

 

It might have yielded some good fruit, too. Dropbox works really well. Sync is not one of Apple's strengths.

 

I hope Apple is throwing money at this problem. Services and Software need a boost.

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Originally Posted by Dunks View Post

 

 

How would you improve upon the iPhone home screen?
 
Aesthetic changes or functional changes?
 
Personally I like that iOS sort of gets out of the way; there are very few software barriers between powering on the device and accessing the applications.

 

I left the iPhone after the 3gs so I might be a little dated if some of these features are already in iOS.  Would love to see Jony's new spin on things include Widgets for Apple users.  Maybe include a setting in the options for 'legacy' ui for people that prefer the familiar grid of Apps.

 

But for those that prefer the new:

Slide to unlock options...   slide left to right = home screen.  Slide right to left = right to email; Down to Up = Texting ; Up to down = straight to phone

 

Unlimited Apps as widgets might be too chaotic and confusing for Apple's minimalist/simple interface, but they could do 'defined' widgets that a user can turn on or off and reposition on the screen such as:

 

Weather (up to 5 days, with temps/outlook)

Stock market ticker (user can set their own portfolio and update frequency, then you get a stock ticker running on bottom of phone screen with your stocks)

ToDo list widget

News you are interested in conglomerator widget

Appointment widget

etc...

 

Basically there are a lot of cool things and a lot of Apps you can use on your iPhone- but there are 5 or 6 things people do really really frequently with their phones (those 5 or 6 things are different from person to person).

 

The goal should be to have your homescreen customizable with Widgets so those 5 or 6 things are there for you and already updated.  Most of the time instead of turning on your phone and then having to go through each app individually or browse the web to get info- you should just have to turn on your phone, glance at it, and turn it back off.

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Originally Posted by ApplePi View Post

1. Were the hell is iLife '13 (or for that matter '12)
2. Aperture (level it up)
3. Mac Pros (a new range of machines is needed)

4. Blu-ray playback / burning support in OSX? (stop ignoring blu-ray and put some burners in your machines)

 

1. Agreed

2. Agreed

3. Already stated to be happening.

4. Never going to happen, ever, for any reason, at any time, under any circumstance, nor should it.

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Or people need to be allowed to have opinions you don't like and you need to get over yourself.

Why can't I, as an individual being with individual opinions that have no power over anyone, feel that iOS is stale?

 

The complaint with using the word "stale" is that you have not described what attributes you feel are "stale".  You are certainly welcome "to feel that iOS is stale", but the other persons who responded to your posts want to know your reasons.  Rather than making a nebulous and unsubstantiated assertion, list the attributes of iOS that you feel are "stale"--and define what you mean by "stale":  Is there something that is deficient and detracts from your user experience?  Is there a feature that is offered by a competing product that performs better?  Are you just looking for a visual change?

 

Once you have offered an argument to support your opinion, then others can respond to your specific points and tell why they agree or disagree with your opinion.  That can make for an interesting discussion, where various participants may draw different conclusions.  Simply asserting a vague opinion does not add value to any discussion.

post #108 of 142
Selling Apple's share in ARM must have been one of the biggest blunders Steve ever made it seems to me. Or was there some benefit other than a short term financial gain I am missing?
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The complaint with using the word "stale" is that you have not described what attributes you feel are "stale".  You are certainly welcome "to feel that iOS is stale", but the other persons who responded to your posts want to know your reasons.  Rather than making a nebulous and unsubstantiated assertion, list the attributes of iOS that you feel are "stale"--and define what you mean by "stale":  Is there something that is deficient and detracts from your user experience?  Is there a feature that is offered by a competing product that performs better?  Are you just looking for a visual change?

Once you have offered an argument to support your opinion, then others can respond to your specific points and tell why they agree or disagree with your opinion.  That can make for an interesting discussion, where various participants may draw different conclusions.  Simply asserting a vague opinion does not add value to any discussion.

The view of my street is "stale" but that doesn't mean I'll be moving house, besides I only see it when I'm going somewhere or coming home.
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And I respect your opinion. If I had to change iOS home screen it would be a cleaner version of the Android home screen. Hence why I'm using Android and not iOS. The intents and defaults are a plus.

Come off this "opinion" crap. You are being paid to float the "stale" meme here. You are obvious, transparent.

Tell your handlers that you're going to have to try something else.
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Originally Posted by ApplePi View Post

Apple needs to shore up its truck business. They've turned themselves from a content creation business into a content consumption business. 


1. Were the hell is iLife '13 (or for that matter '12)

2. Aperture (level it up)

3. Mac Pros (a new range of machines is needed)
4. Blu-ray playback / burning support in OSX? (stop ignoring blu-ray and put some burners in your machines)

1. don't know, but it looks like they set their priorities to different things, I presume iOS & OSX
2. Sure, I want a new version, with my wish-list implemented. Though the updates we are getting now are all free of charge, which is nice. But I wouldn't mind paying $79 yearly for upgrades. v3 was released 3 years and 3 months ago, which is indeed a very long time (wiki)
3. Cook said they'll release on this calendar year
4. Pop one in the empty bay of your Mac Pro, or buy external. I mean, if you need it, buy one. No software required as OSX burns those. Straight from DVD Studio Pro. I believe FCP (which also does 4k and 5k) does that as well, but you could always as Mr. Dick Applebaum.

edit #4: it does: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs/
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post #112 of 142

" now sits on well over $144.7 billion"

 

Surely sitting on money is a recession in itself.

If it just ain't going round it is sitting square on top of a resulting world depression.

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How would you improve upon the iPhone home screen?
 
Aesthetic changes or functional changes?
 
Personally I like that iOS sort of gets out of the way; there are very few software barriers between powering on the device and accessing the applications.

And I respect your opinion. If I had to change iOS home screen it would be a cleaner version of the Android home screen. Hence why I'm using Android and not iOS. The intents and defaults are a plus.

If you rationalize a little, you will come to the conclusion that the home screen on Android is a wasted step. You could have the same functionality (if you want) on the lock screen.

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Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post

Come off this "opinion" crap. You are being paid to float the "stale" meme here. You are obvious, transparent.

 

Why are you attacking his posts?    

 

Do you seriously believe that anyone who thinks the iOS UI needs refreshing, is being paid to say so ?

 

In that case, Jon Ive must be a paid shill as well.   As well as the rest of the Apple executive staff who pushed Forstall out.

 

A UI refresh is a primary reason why people are looking forward to iOS 7.

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Originally Posted by realitychecks 
Now that my single slightly negative thing said of anything Apple evidenced on this forum is remedied as per the hive mind can we continue being on topic?

 

Nah, just go away.


Originally Posted by KDarling View Post
Do you seriously believe that anyone who thinks the iOS UI needs refreshing, is being paid to say so ?

 

In that case, Jon Ive must be a paid shill as well.   As well as the rest of the Apple executive staff who pushed Forstall out.

 

Oh, he posts here, does he? Come off it.


A UI refresh is a primary reason why people are looking forward to iOS 7.

 

Citation needed.

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Nah, just go away.

 

Oh, he posts here, does he? Come off it.

 

Citation needed.

 

Small non-scientific survey here:

http://readwrite.com/2013/05/16/ios-users-beg-set-our-iphones-ipads-free

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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post
Small non-scientific survey here:

http://readwrite.com/2013/05/16/ios-users-beg-set-our-iphones-ipads-free

 

Those options are horrible, you understand.

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``While pundits and analysts like to focus attention on how Apple is now appears incapable of growing at the same historical pace simply due to the laws of physics....''


Please just don't include subject matter you clearly don't grasp, especially when it's insulting to those that do: ``...due to the laws of physics...'' is obnoxious.

Money is a man-made construct, not a universal physics construct.

P.S. The rest of the Op-Ed is solid.

Exponential growth can't continue indefinitely with bounded resources (space, materials, energy, etc.).  That's a law of physics.  I don't know who you're referring to who "grasp" physics and would find Daniel's statements obnoxious, but I'm a physicist and I think he has put it perfectly correctly.

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Selling Apple's share in ARM must have been one of the biggest blunders Steve ever made it seems to me. Or was there some benefit other than a short term financial gain I am missing?

 

Possible benefits to Apple:

1. Focus: At that time Apple was still in the earlier stages of proofing their disruptive concept of intense focus on a few critical products/technologies.

 

2. Signaling to the rest of the community that the ARM "ecosystem" was not going to turn proprietary--note that Intel sold off their stake soon after, too. Now anyone* can be assured that an investment in ARM processors couldn't be hijacked.

 

* Such as Qualcomm, Samsung, TI, et al.

 

3. Then there's the money--a trivial amount by today's standard, but still significant back then. 

 

There may even be an Ars Technica article discussing this in greater detail floating around if you're interested.

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Originally Posted by realitychecks
Did you delete my posts defining you as a troll.

 

No, but I did preemptively remove the backlink to said post in the event it would be deleted, saving the effort of having to edit my post that referenced it. Because no one likes broken back links.


Then asking you to find a single troll post of mine…

 

I didn't even get to see that one. lol.gif

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