Originally Posted by jasenj1
If you find a loophole and it works and is legal, keep using it - and use it to its fullest.
Steve had a low tolerance for stupidity. I would love to hear him testify before this committee. I suspect he'd tell them the problem is of their own making, go *bleep* yourselves until it's fixed. I have work to get back to.
Let's stop calling it a loophole. This plays into the lie that they are somehow "avoiding" tax. It's not a loophole that the USA can't collect taxes for business outside it's jurisdiction. It's simply the fact that the US Government has no right to a cut of business that occurs overseas.
It's sad that we've been conditioned to think and talk like slaves, and it's by design that they put things this way to try and even make thinking about it rationally impossible. (Like calling people who believe in science "climate warming deniers", which presumes climate warming is a fact they are in "denial" of.) Like the rejection of the science, that makes people incapable of considering scientific reality, politicians propagandize in a way that makes it difficult to recognize just how absurd their claims are.
Apple isn't "Avoiding" taxes, the TAXES DON'T EXIST!
Originally Posted by Crowley
I don't understand comments like this. Are you suggesting that Levin receives some kind of kick back for criticizing Apple? The norm is for politicians to be called greedy when they cozy up to companies in exchange for campaign contributions and/or personal gifts, so I'm not sure where this partciular ire, which is in quite a different direction, comes from.
It doesn't matter how much Apple earned. It's their money and they are not your slave to exploit.
Politicians don't "cozy up" to companies-- they say "it's a mighty nice business you have here, be a real shame if something were to happen to it.".
Politicians only have the threat of violence- that's all government can do-- and so this shake down racket has been going on a long time. The idea that politicians are cozy with corporations is part of the BS "corporations are too powerful" lie that is spread to keep people from realizing that it is politicians who have destroyed the economy.... and part and parcel to standard socialist propaganda.
Originally Posted by MJ1970
I'm curious what changed then. What events or circumstances prompted this "consolidation?" Or was really no different from now in which we have "two" parties that are only superficially and marginally different from one another?
Poltiicians are corrupt in their nature. So they started passing laws that keep third parties off the ballots or give their own party an advantage. These laws are so entrenched now that the idea that America has "fair" elections is absurd. Third parties spend all their time and money trying to get on the ballots and aren't even allowed into the debates.... this makes the elections a sham and a joke.
Like in Iraq when Saddam Hussien won every time--- in America, the one party with two heads wins every time.