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Apple's 'iWatch' to come in late 2014 with focus on biometrics, analyst says

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Noted KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes Apple's much-rumored iWatch will hit store shelves late next year, not in 2013 as many market watchers expect, with a 1.5- to 2-inch screen, focus on biometrics and deep integration with existing iOS devices.

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In a note to investors obtained by AppleInsider on Wednesday, Kuo said he does expect Apple to release a wearable accessory, namely the iWatch, sometime in the future, but doesn't see the company debuting the product any time soon.

Unlike other analysts, Kuo, who has a proven track record in accurately predicting Apple's product rollouts, believes Apple will ramp up production in the second half of 2014, a period more than one year later than current estimates.

In the report, the analyst mentions Apple will probably enter the wearable computing market with a watch offering, dubbed as the "iWatch," instead of a glasses product like Google Glass. Backing up the claim, Kuo points to the Cupertino company's recent patent filings related to curved screens and batteries.

"Investors shouldn?t be misled by the word ?Watch?. We think iWatch will not be positioned as a time-telling device, nor as a device that displays information from other Apple products," Kuo writes. "We are positive on the iWatch because its wearable design is helpful for offering more secure user identification and biometrics functionality."

As rumored just two days ago, Kuo says iWatch will use either a 1.5 or 2 inch panel. However, instead of OLED panels, the device is likely to leverage existing GF2 touchscreen technology, much like Apple's current iPad mini and iPod nano, as the format is well-suited for small screen applications. Production of the display will probably be handed to Japanese or Korean suppliers.

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Interestingly, Kuo believes the supposed iWatch will sport a "secure user identification mechanism" and biometric functionality, both of which could become main selling points for the device. With biometrics, the iWatch can better safeguard an owner from unwanted user access, while providing advanced healthcare features. Currently, devices like the Nike+ FuelBand and other wearables offer pedometer functions and, in some cases, heart rate monitoring. If such functionality were to be built into Apple's watch, it could open new doors to the healthcare hardware industry.

Also borrowed from the iPod nano will be an application processor, or AP, which will allow for integration with Apple's existing iOS device ecosystem.

As for the 2014 release, Kuo says Apple may not have adequate resources to develop an iWatch variant of its iOS mobile platform as it would require significant changes to the operating system. Also, with wearable computing devices being a nascent sector, components are too scarce to reach the critical mass production requirements needed to satiate an expectedly high demand. Kuo believes manufacture will likely start in earnest during the second half of next year.
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"iWatch delayed by a year. Sell your Apple stock now!!!"

Or, at least, that's what we'll see in the headlines. It doesn't matter that Apple never even said they're working on a watch or when it might be available. The new rumor is later than the old rumor, so Apple is doomed.
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What does "noted analyst" mean, anyway? OK... you claim you're an analyst... noted.

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Here we go again, with another one of AI's pet phrases that seem to endlessly repeat themselves in stories: "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes...."

 

Someone please tell me, why is this guy/gal a "noted analyst?" Does (s)he have a solid track record on product and/or price predictions?

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This guy is just guessing like the rest of us, without any insider information.

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So what new product category will Tim Cook introduce this fall? Hope he ain't classifying the iPhone Jumbo and the iPhone Cheapo as new categories.
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So what new product category will Tim Cook introduce this fall? Hope he ain't classifying the iPhone Jumbo and the iPhone Cheapo as new categories.
So then perfect front page news for AI and Mac Rumors. 1rolleyes.gif

WWDC can't come soon enough. Sigh.
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... "Investors shouldn't be misled by the word "Watch". We think iWatch will not be positioned as a time-telling device, nor as a device that displays information from other Apple products," Kuo writes.  ...

 

Basically what I've been saying on every article about the "iWatch" since everyone started talking about it.  1hmm.gif

 

Here's a good idea, let's all stop calling it a f*cking "watch" when it really isn't.  Maybe if we all stopped using the "watch" word, then it wouldn't be so misleading and fuzzy about what the heck we are talking about and what the product is going to be.  

 

It's not a watch.  Watches went out of style years ago.  Nobody wants a watch.  

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should it read:

Noted Asshole douchebag blogger?

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Please...1.5-2" screens? Sammy has a 2, 2.5, 3, 3.3, 4, 4.5, 5, 6, 7.1, and 10" screen watches in development. And they have the S-pen to boot.
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This is just another way to manipulate the stock. Report on rumors of some mythical new product and then report that the launch date of this mythical product (which Apple never confirmed) will be delayed. But maybe it's not working any more. Apple stock was actually up today while the market overall was down. Google was down almost 2%, Amazon over 2%.
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If it's 1 1/2 years away Apple may as well forget it. Samsung is going to have these things to market way before then.

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It's not a watch.  Watches went out of style years ago.  Nobody wants a watch.  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/2013/jan/27/luxury-watches-defy-downturn

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"kinetic energy gathering device (502)"

 

An automatic wristwatch then, circa 1923. But fanbois will scream "innovation!"

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If it's 1 1/2 years away Apple may as well forget it. Samsung is going to have these things to market way before then.

What things? How do you know what Apple is doing?
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I had always assumed that the "iWatch" was a just a "chaff" rumor.  A rumor who's purpose was to fool other companies into waste development time trying to beat Apple to the punch.  Time spent while Apple truly works on the next big product.  A misdirection if you will.

 

I would be disappointed to find out this is a real product, one with such a limited scope and audience.  I know very few people that wear watches anymore, most use their iPhones instead.

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If it's 1 1/2 years away Apple may as well forget it. Samsung is going to have these things to market way before then.

What things? How do you know what Apple is doing?

Not only that, I heard somewhere than Samsung Motorola and Nokia had these things (can't remember the name) that were used to make calls/sms 30 years before Apple.

 

Guess what.

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I had always assumed that the "iWatch" was a just a "chaff" rumor.  A rumor who's purpose was to fool other companies into waste development time trying to beat Apple to the punch.  Time spent while Apple truly works on the next big product.  A misdirection if you will.

I would be disappointed to find out this is a real product, one with such a limited scope and audience.  I know very few people that wear watches anymore, most use their iPhones instead.

1) How many people do you know that didn't use smartphones before the iPhone.

2) Wearable computer accessories aren't likely to replace something like the iPhone, but add to it.

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"iWatch delayed by a year. Sell your Apple stock now!!!"

Or, at least, that's what we'll see in the headlines. It doesn't matter that Apple never even said they're working on a watch or when it might be available. The new rumor is later than the old rumor, so Apple is doomed.

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So then perfect front page news for AI and Mac Rumors. 1rolleyes.gif

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Amen to that.
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 I would be disappointed to find out this is a real product, one with such a limited scope and audience.  I know very few people that wear watches anymore, most use their iPhones instead.
Until now I also thought that a wearable device could only ever hope to reach a niche audience of well heeled early adopters. But I think this analyst makes sense. With a major emphasis on health management such a device will have an increasingly large audience, be they young fitness concious people or the age inch population. A device that can take all sorts of body measurements in real time and relay these to specialized software or your doctor / hospital / health service could help save millions of health care dollars whilst at the same time enable people to live healthier and spend less time in hospitals and under care.
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Breaking News 1 Jan 2014-  Anal-yeast Ming-Chi Kuo predictions for 2013 were all wrong and the firm fired that anal itch.
 

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To make me more excited about this product I want something more than pedometer functions and heart rate monitoring.  I want a watch my wife could wear that will tell me when it is a good time to try to get pregnant.  I want the watch to measure my temperature and hydration levels to tell me that I should drink some water.  If it could scan through the layers of skin and check on my sodium and sugar levels too then that would be icing on the cake.  A built-in breathalyzer for me to check if I'm legal to drive after having a couple of beers would be the cherry on top.  

 

Anyway, this device should be something completely different from the iPod, iPhone, and iPad.  Such a device would not be good for playing traditional App Store games.  

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If it's 1 1/2 years away Apple may as well forget it. Samsung is going to have these things to market way before then.

Haha. Sammy waiting for something to steal.
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Breaking News 1 Jan 2014-  Anal-yeast Ming-Chi Kuo predictions for 2013 were all wrong and the firm fired that anal itch.

 

Analysts don't get fired. He can always say these new products were delayed by Apple.
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Analysts don't get fired. He can always say these new products were delayed by Apple.

 

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Wasnt it announced by apple to look out for exciting products 2013 and early 2014. This guy also said ipad gonna be out in april. He is an ass.
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Breaking News 1 Jan 2014-  Anal-yeast Ming-Chi Kuo predictions for 2013 were all wrong and the firm fired that anal itch.......................
.........where he continued his career as an Anal-Cyst........ 1cool.gif
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Breaking News 1 Jan 2014-  Anal-yeast Ming-Chi Kuo predictions for 2013 were all wrong and the firm fired that anal itch.

 

What'll you do if he's right?
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To make me more excited about this product I want something more than pedometer functions and heart rate monitoring.  I want a watch my wife could wear that will tell me when it is a good time to try to get pregnant.  I want the watch to measure my temperature and hydration levels to tell me that I should drink some water.  If it could scan through the layers of skin and check on my sodium and sugar levels too then that would be icing on the cake.  A built-in 
breathalyzer for me to check if I'm legal to drive after having a couple of beers would be the cherry on top.  


Anyway, this device should be something completely different from the iPod, iPhone, and iPad.  Such a d
evice would not be good for playing traditional App Store games.  

Running wouldn't be an obvious application. Good look getting those other wishes.
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Wasnt it announced by apple to look out for exciting products 2013 and early 2014. This guy also said ipad gonna be out in april. He is an ass.

Did he? OMG. Anyone could have predicted that wouldn't happen. His wife probably owns stock.
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post #31 of 36

That's fine, the current "watches" aren't that great so there's no rush to get to market. Just keep relentlessly improving the iPad.

post #32 of 36
Remember when Nintendo was going to release a dongle for the Wii that dealt with Biometrics... where is that? The focus for this iWatch won't be biometrics.

This is noise. Ignore and Carry On.
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"We are positive on the iWatch because its wearable design is helpful for offering more secure user identification and biometrics functionality."

This bit is interesting.  Maybe the iBracelet will have the fingerprint sensor tech that Apple acquired.

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I love the thought of a biometric watch that monitors your health. That would be a real selling point. I can see how it would be pretty straightforward to monitor your pulse and therefore heartbeat - useful.

But can anyone explain what other measurements can be taken from something attached to your wrist? Electrical conductivity? Anyone?
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What'll you do if he's right?

 

Kind of obvious right? He'll buy the watch!

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What do people think, we're going to carry a box around in our pockets forever? This might not be the iWatch but the iPhone 7, with the iPhone 9 being a tiny thing you clip behind your ear.

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