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post #81 of 101
Originally Posted by Relic View Post
Because he'll miss your charming personality and the constant berating of people who don't have an undying loyalty to a company that produces inanimate objects.1biggrin.gif

 

I already know that YOU don't have a clue why this site exists; I'm asking him.

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I think their is more interest in the iPad Mini Retina then the iPad5. 

 

It is too bad Apple has switched the release of the new models however.  They are going to release the iPad5 first!  The Mini Retina is suppose to come sometime in October/November!  I not sure people will wait that long of a period to buy the Mini when the Nexus 7 will also be HD resolution and cost 1/2 as much!  Plus, Windows based RT will have HD screens starting in August time frame.

 

Apple still think the large iPad is what people want but you see how the sales are and many people are trend towards the smaller tablets; not the bigger ones.   I notice this in coffee shops where people use to carry their 10" iPads and Andoids to the shops.  Now about 80% have the 7-8" size.  They do not seem to go back to the large tablets either. 

post #84 of 101
Originally Posted by Harry Wild View Post
It is too bad Apple has switched the release of the new models however.  They are going to release the iPad5 first!  The Mini Retina is suppose to come sometime in October/November!

 

How do you think anyone knows anything about what Apple is "doing"?


I not sure people will wait that long of a period to buy the Mini when the Nexus 7 will also be HD resolution and cost 1/2 as much!

 

Idiots buy the Nexus. Anyone who cares would wait for an iPad.


…Windows based RT…

 

*stifled laughter*


Apple still think the large iPad is what people want…

 

Oh, you sure?! Because they're really disappointing ME in that regard.


…but you see how the sales are and many people are trend towards the smaller tablets; not the bigger ones.

 

Again, people are idiots. People actually wanted a 2.5" iPhone. Even larger iPads are the future, not small ones.

post #85 of 101
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Originally Posted by 512ke View Post

There is no denying that Android tablets have closed the gap with Apple in terms of design, UI, functionality, apps, battery life, physical features, advertising, and commercial availability. Oh, and they're cheaper. And Apple is losing market share.

Do I not know what I'm taking about? Maybe. Or maybe the truth of Apple's decline is so glaringly obvious that many if you more sophisticated and smarter people are failing to see it. You pick lol.

Increasing iPad sales? Check. The only reason Apple is "losing" shipment market share is because the market is growing at a faster pace than Apple can grow. That and there are so many Androiders shipping 100s of thousands of tablets that they can't be sold to end users quick enough.
post #86 of 101
I was walking around my local mall yesterday evening - upstairs the Apple store had two people in it, the Samsung store (selling smartphones, tablets, laptops and accessories only, like its Apple counterpart) had at least ten times that many people! Not so long ago that wasn't the case, and its been this way for a while now. I'm so worried in fact, that I don't know if that store is even going to be there in few months time when most of the new products come out - so then I'll only be able to purchase online and have nowhere to go, in my area if something goes wrong. Apple in the country where I live seems to be in terminal decline, even resellers are beginning to dump it or recommend Samsung instead...very worrying indeed!
Edited by 1983 - 5/26/13 at 9:41am
post #87 of 101
Originally Posted by 1983 View Post
I was walking around my local mall yesterday evening - upstairs the Apple store had two people in it, the Samsung store (selling smartphones, tablets, laptops and accessories only, like its Apple counterpart)had at least ten times that many people! Not so long ago that wasn't the case, and its been this way for a while now. I'm so worried in fact, that I don't know if that store is still even going to be there in few months time when all the new products come out - so I'll only be able to purchase online and have no where in my area to go if something goes wrong. Apple in my country seems to be in terminal decline, even resellers seem to be dumping it or recommending Samsung instead...very worrying!

 

You gotta throw /s' on these. lol.gif

post #88 of 101
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Originally Posted by 1983 View Post

I was walking around my local mall yesterday evening - upstairs the Apple store had two people in it, the Samsung store (selling smartphones, tablets, laptops and accessories only, like its Apple counterpart) had at least ten times that many people! Not so long ago that wasn't the case, and its been this way for a while now. I'm so worried in fact, that I don't know if that store is still even going to be there in few months time when most of the new products come out - so I'll only be able to purchase online and have nowhere to go in my area if something goes wrong. Apple in the country where I live seems to be in terminal decline, even resellers seem to be dumping it or recommending Samsung instead...very worrying!

Do you live in fantasyland? If resellers are recommended Sammy it's because Sammy is paying them commission.
post #89 of 101
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Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post

... So far you and one other posted have decided to try to answer for him, but so far all you've contributed are random insults, without a single shred of actual data. ...

 

Really? Please point out my "random insults". This claim is about as evidenced based as your others.

 

And, no, I don't consider pointing out that you don't have evidence to support your assertions a random insult.

post #90 of 101
As long as opinions are stated politely there is no cause to suggest that anyone leave the discussion.

I don't see why my observation that Android is surpassing Apple suggests that I'm not interested in Apple's current products, future plans, and business success.

In fact I'm very invested $$$ and perhaps that's one reason why I'm attentive to what I personally perceive as the reality of the changing market.
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Originally Posted by 1983 View Post

I was walking around my local mall yesterday evening - upstairs the Apple store had two people in it, the Samsung store (selling smartphones, tablets, laptops and accessories only, like its Apple counterpart) had at least ten times that many people! Not so long ago that wasn't the case, and its been this way for a while now. I'm so worried in fact, that I don't know if that store is even going to be there in few months time when most of the new products come out - so then I'll only be able to purchase online and have nowhere to go, in my area if something goes wrong. Apple in the country where I live seems to be in terminal decline, even resellers are beginning to dump it or recommend Samsung instead...very worrying indeed!

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Almost a textbook "concern troll" post. Next time, be sure to list every Apple product you supposedly own for a stronger finish. /s

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post #92 of 101
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Originally Posted by Lerxt View Post


Most of Asia is using Samsung at the expense of Apple products. You may not like to hear it but its true. I live in Hong Kong and I travel weekly all over Asia, from as far north as Japan to as far south as Indonesia and I work in a large local company. I can tell assure you that I see less than a quarter of the number of Apple products than I used to. Samsung big screen phones are everywhere. My teams used to be all iphone, now me and maybe one or two others in groups of 16 are iPhone. The rest are Samsung.

It's interesting and a little pathetic to read the fanboys on this sites difficulty in accepting opinions of others that don't fit in with their limited view of the world.

 

Perhaps more pathetic is that you actually believe your selective observation/conclusion is a genuine, accurate and authoritative measure of the market.

 

In truth the line, "I see less than a quarter of the number of Apple products than I used to..." is completely meaningless. You do get that, right? 

 

Following mined data and 'triangulating' the results from that paints a very different picture than the narrative you created here. No-one here is denying that Samsung has been making inroads into the higher-end handset market, but by unilaterally convincing yourself that their share is mostly being taken from Apple, I think it may be you that's in denial, "fanboy".

post #93 of 101
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Originally Posted by 512ke View Post

There is no denying...

 

Sure there is. ONE company's single product line owns half the market. The other 100 or so product lines from a few dozen companies SHARES the rest. Enough said.

 

There. I denied it.

 

 

Originally Posted by 512ke View Post

...the truth of Apple's decline...
 

Which decline are we talking about exactly?

 

The "decline" in the stock price maybe? (Which occurred while sales continued to break records during every quarter of that "decline".)

 

Or the "decline" in gross margins maybe? (While net profits continued to hold steady in spite of lower margins, due to ongoing increased RECORD sales.)

 

Oh, I know!!! The decline in market share in areas Apple doesn't really compete! Yeah, that's it… that's the ticket!

 

 

 

lol?

post #94 of 101
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Originally Posted by 1983 View Post

Apple in the country where I live seems to be in terminal decline...

 

Which country is that exactly? South Korea, maybe?

post #95 of 101
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Originally Posted by 1983 View Post

I was walking around my local mall yesterday evening - upstairs the Apple store had two people in it, the Samsung store (selling smartphones, tablets, laptops and accessories only, like its Apple counterpart) had at least ten times that many people! Not so long ago that wasn't the case, and its been this way for a while now. I'm so worried in fact, that I don't know if that store is even going to be there in few months time when most of the new products come out - so then I'll only be able to purchase online and have nowhere to go, in my area if something goes wrong. Apple in the country where I live seems to be in terminal decline, even resellers are beginning to dump it or recommend Samsung instead...very worrying indeed!

 

Mmm. 

 

Apple decline in Narnia.

 

Tim Cook needs to get right on that.

post #96 of 101
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Originally Posted by tribalogical View Post

 

Sure there is. ONE company's single product line owns half the market. The other 100 or so product lines from a few dozen companies SHARES the rest. Enough said.

 

There. I denied it.

 

 

Which decline are we talking about exactly?

 

The "decline" in the stock price maybe? (Which occurred while sales continued to break records during every quarter of that "decline".)

 

Or the "decline" in gross margins maybe? (While net profits continued to hold steady in spite of lower margins, due to ongoing increased RECORD sales.)

 

Oh, I know!!! The decline in market share in areas Apple doesn't really compete! Yeah, that's it… that's the ticket!

 

 

 

lol?

Apple's profit growth has been declining for a while now. This hasn't perhaps been immediately obvious to the average forum visitor who's wondering why the stock is falling. Apple themselves have projected a profit decline YoY for the current quarter. That decline has to come from somewhere, a good guess is their iOS lineup since that makes up ~70% of their profits.

post #97 of 101
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post #98 of 101
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Originally Posted by Rayz View Post

 

Mmm. 

 

Apple decline in Narnia.

 

Tim Cook needs to get right on that.

 

Zzzzzzzzz......

post #99 of 101
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

[...] If you think Apple is actually waiting until the end of the year to release new products you have lost touch with the Apple way

 

Um, it was Mr. Cook himself who said new products are in the pipeline for the end of 2013 and into 2014. His way very definitively is "the Apple way."

 

 


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I find it hard to believe people put so much stock into the rumor mill.

 

The analyst's sale projections are rumor. The new product timetable is right from the horse's mouth. He didn't say what but he did say when.

post #100 of 101
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Originally Posted by Rayz View Post

Mmm. 

Apple decline in Narnia.

Tim Cook needs to get right on that.

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Originally Posted by garbage View Post

Apple's profit growth has been declining for a while now. This hasn't perhaps been immediately obvious to the average forum visitor who's wondering why the stock is falling. Apple themselves have projected a profit decline YoY for the current quarter. That decline has to come from somewhere, a good guess is their iOS lineup since that makes up ~70% of their profits.

A "while" now is one quarter. Damn. Two qtrs must be an eternity. Three must equal bankruptcy. By the way profit growth decline does not equal profit decline.
post #101 of 101
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Originally Posted by garbage View Post

Apple's profit growth has been declining for a while now. 

 

Define the time period of "a while". For that matter, 'declining profit growth'? Really? So… if profit was GROWING at 12% a quarter, but now it's GROWING at 9% a quarter we declare that we are IN DECLINE…?

 

This hasn't perhaps been immediately obvious to the average forum visitor who's wondering why the stock is falling. 

 

That was mostly due to stock manipulation (very obvious to anyone who bothered to look). And the stock stopped falling a month or two ago. Didn't you get the memo? Now at 445, up from 385, where it hit bottom. Trending upward. Funny thing is, the recent "profit projections" clearly had little to do with it.

 

Apple themselves have projected a profit decline YoY for the current quarter. That decline has to come from somewhere, a good guess is their iOS lineup since that makes up ~70% of their profits.

 

Sure, and the increased dividends outlay/stock buyback has nothing to do with reduced net margins, eh?

 

Yes, they also anticipate a weaker quarter due to product cycle timing and seasonal trends. One quarter does not "a company in decline" make. Please.

 

With every post you completely live up to your avatar name...


Edited by tribalogical - 5/28/13 at 2:11am
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