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NeXTStep was a thing of beauty...
 

I remember the first time I fired up my Turbo slab and logged in - it was like 'whoa'...a whole different level of an experience. I've yet to come across any other OS since that I've had the same reaction to unfortunately.


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…ir looks like NExtstep with larger resolution on inside….

 

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And when the rumour proves true, will it matter then? Because I think it matters a lot, and that it has a definitely ring of truth to it.
Certain people can continue to deny it but I'll be interested in their comments come June 10. Probably will be asking for Ive to be fired for ruininng their iPhone. lol.gif
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What I meant is that while brushed aluminum looks perfect on computer cases, it looks really poor in the GUI....

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What I meant is that while brushed aluminum looks perfect on computer cases, it looks really poor in the GUI....1oyvey.gif

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It's only a matter of time until iPhones and iPads are running multi-core processors and performing like a desktop system.

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I think you probably meant to say Google didn't introduce any new hardware as they often do, which disappointed some folks. All they announced was a lot of new software, features and applications.

 

Key Lime Pie?

 

Where was the next dessert?

 

Apple will announce more.

 

It will be declared by "experts" as less.

 

The world will go on.

 

Business as usual.

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Why is it always 73 degrees?

 

It isn't, mine says 23 degrees.

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We need a budget iPhone at around €349, the main iPhone at €499 (599 & 699), and the large iPhone at €599 (699 & 799). I know that won't happen, but the iPhone would sell in incredible numbers at those price points.

It is selling in incredible numbers at the current price point...

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boondoggle...
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To me, saying iOS is "boring" is the same as saying sitting in front of a washing machine is boring. The OS needs to provide simple, elegant and I obstructive functionality. It should be the apps that create the entertainment.
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It's only a matter of time until iPhones and iPads are running multi-core processors and performing like a desktop system.

 

The are already performing like desktop systems from yesterday and tomorrow they will perform like desktop systems of day after tomorrow...1biggrin.gif.

 

However, they will never perform or function as desktop systems. That is why we have desktop systems. Less and less, but still...

post #213 of 254

The concept that Apple would devote significant resources to simply making their UI 'flatter' is troubling on many levels, and I remain hopeful that the emphasis such a design direction is receiving in the press is unrelated to the actual work that is going on.  So, I'm hopeful that what Ive is doing is a great deal more sensitive and insightful than simply eliminating skeumorphism and dimensionality.

 

That said, I would like to suggest that almost nobody has asked the root question "what would make Ive qualified to lead software design?"  he is clearly brilliant - perhaps one of the most brilliant hardware designers of our age.  But what about his skill set extends, naturally, to the design of software user interfaces?  I ask this because my observation is that people simply assume that Ive's skills in designing hardware will somehow just naturally map to the design of software user interfaces as well, and that assumption itself rests on another assumption: that what makes the hardware 'good' is exactly the same thing that will make the software 'good'.  I think this basic assertion is highly questionable, however; I do NOT think it is a given that the minimalist design aesthetic we see in Apple hardware will translate magically into a pleasing and useful experience in software user interfaces.  I am troubled that much of this direction, at least as described in the press, seems rooted in the assumption that what makes hardware designs good will somehow equate to what makes software UI design 'good'.

 

If it were just the press, I would be less concerned.  But I see some indication, in the tea leaves as it were, that this is exactly the perception inside Apple.  Cook essentially stated as much when he indicated that he put Ive in charge, here, because he wanted to create unity between the hardware and the software design.  He expressed the view that because Ive had done so marvelously with the hardware, it was a natural fit for him to head the software design too.  Nobody, apparently Cook included, seems to have paused to ask the basic question "does the stuff that makes a piece of hardware pleasant and well designed... equate to the stuff that makes a piece of software pleasant and well designed?"  I think that is a very important, foundational question.  

 

In my opinion, it is not at all clear that the minimalist design aesthetic which makes Ive's hardware designs so wonderful... is a solution course that will just naturally map to software just as well.

 

I remain hopeful that Ive is every bit as brilliant as his hardware designs would indicate, and that he is personally grappling with the question above, and seeking to find the designs which work best for the context.  But I have to admit that I think, in software design, that minimalism purely for minimalism's sake is a very poor design direction.  We have already seen what that looks like in the visage of Windows 8, and I don't think too many people like what they see.  Windows 8 is very minimal in its design aesthetic, and it hangs together very well indeed in terms of the purity of its design aesthetic and the way the core UI adheres to its design language.  The problem is this: that aesthetic and design language sucks.  It isn't better just because there is less detail in the visual field. 

 

So, I hope what Ive produces is distinct, beautiful, and a masterpiece of functionality and user experience.  But I am not confident that what leads to an excellent hardware design is the same thing as what leads to an excellent software UI.

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The problem with Apple is that they've been too focused on hardware lately, and seem to have dropped the ball a few ago with software.

Most of their applications like Aperture and iWork haven't seen major updates in years.  And although iOS is important, in many ways as a top-down technology OSX is more important.  People still use and need conventional desktops and laptops.

Furthermore, in other areas Apple have actually gone backward.  For example, iCloud doesn't include many features that MobileME toyed with like iDisk.  Now look how popular Dropbox is.  It's 2013 and it's *still* too complicated to do basic things like share documents and collaborate with people.

Steve Jobs said Apple is a software company.  So I find it odd that Apple has been so hardware centric for years.  With the software they have introduced recently (Maps and Siri) it's been either disastrous or ho-hum.  Also, check out Apple's feedback page.  It looks like it hasn't been refreshed in years.

Apple, if you're reading this, I have all the answers to your problems.  Send me an email and I will gladly come and help map out what needs to be done.

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Agree...


Multiuser support on the iPad and at a minimum a guest user on iPhone and older iPads.

Ability to hide any app in guest or non-admin account

Contacts parity with OS X

Some not too battery impacting at a glance items on he locked page.

Lose the leather looks.

Text search in Safari (or have I just not found it?)

Also agree. I cannot count the numbers of times some 'little darling' has has had their wicked way with client's iDevice. This includes spending money (yes, password security 101). A guest account and ideally support for multiple accounts with parental control options is becoming vital for many users.

 

Losing the skeumorphic 'look' is also big on my wish list - other people's 'taste' is too often appalling. 
 

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It isn't, mine says 23 degrees.

 

Yes, 73 degrees does seem a tad hot for for those of us who live in a celsius culture ;)

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I've been a user of iPhone since the first iteration and do think it needs a bit freshening up.

But I agree with the author that while the UI wouldn't hurt from getting an update, it's alot of the native apps that are dragging behind.

Safari is great as it is, but beyond that, I feel most of the native apps are a bit lackluster. For instance, the Mail app, which is a rather key app, is a bit too simple and for instance have no spam control.
It's been discussed over and over again how nice it would be to have some of the settings options easier accessed, like from the drag-down curtain.
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Please get rid of the "dock shelf".... I can't stand looking at it... and why would I have icons siting on a virtual glass shelf anyways... WHY! Am I supposed to think of them as books? Figurines? Maybe they can add a plant or something in iOS7... Thank goodness Forstall is gone.
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Originally Posted by aussiepaul View Post
The problem with Apple is that they've been too focused on hardware lately…

 

Wait, too focused on hardware? lol.gif


So I find it odd that Apple has been so hardware centric for years.

 

I find it odd that you think they've cared about hardware more than software for the past few years.


…either disastrous or ho-hum.

 

But neither of those are the case.


Apple, if you're reading this, I have all the answers to your problems.  Send me an email and I will gladly come and help map out what needs to be done.

 

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You should have put that first so I would have known not to bother reading your post at all. If you actually had any answers, you'd already work for Apple instead of whining about what they're doing "wrong" on forums.


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Thank goodness Forstall is gone.


You just don't comprehend, do you?

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Please get rid of the "dock shelf".... I can't stand looking at it... and why would I have icons siting on a virtual glass shelf anyways... WHY! Am I supposed to think of them as books? Figurines? Maybe they can add a plant or something in iOS7... Thank goodness Forstall is gone.
Of all the things that iOS could or needs to have changed, as discussed in the editorial itself or by others comments on the story, THIS is what you chose to focus on? The dock really bothers you THAT much? I guess I' not seeing the problem.

As for your Forestall comment, all I can say is your condemnation of the man is misdirected imo.
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Just enhance calendar alarms.  Let me set custom snooze times.  

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I don't want iOS to change too much. When I firts started using computers back in 1983 I used to tweak setting 20 times a day even going as far as to edit the registry and over the next 20 years I have reduced changing the setting, wallpapers, addons after addon. Now I get my work done rather than waisting my time like a pubescent schoolboy rushing to tell my friends how cool my desktop icons are or some cool trick. I think that these douchebag blogidiots were like me 30 years ago , wetting themselves over some stupid setting. They are the new geeks, for bleeps sake grow up NEXT

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post #223 of 254
I think that iOS needs a revamp as well, and not just for UI. It's time for another paradigm shift. Apple essentially invented the modern smartphone interface...heck...one could say that with the exception of BlackBerry, they invented the smartphone itself. They made phones true handheld computers, and of course made "apps" the way of the world.

When I think about the next step, I think it's about app integration with the OS. Right now, one basically has to open an app, then use that app, then close or switch apps to do something else. I have probably a hundred apps, and finding them/selecting them can be difficult--even with folders. What I'd like to see is real voice integration, so that all I have to say is "take a picture"--and the camera app loads. Then, while within the camera app, I can just ask a question like "how many moon missions were there?" Safari or a search app would load. I could say "buy Eagles tickets" and Stubhub or ebay would open. Siri moves in this direction, but one still has to go through some layers such as "shall I search the web for you?"

Also, I'd like to see more personal assistant features. I'd like it to read my e-mail to me in the car, or read my texts, play my voicemails, etc. All of this should be done without me having to select an app.
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Originally Posted by WonkoTheSane View Post

To me, saying iOS is "boring" is the same as saying sitting in front of a washing machine is boring. The OS needs to provide simple, elegant and I obstructive functionality. It should be the apps that create the entertainment.
If that's the case, as more and more apps are starting to become identical across platforms, what's the point of the premium iPhone price?
The os matters as its the differentiator along with the hardware. Apps mean nothing as all platforms have them.
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What I meant is that while brushed aluminum looks perfect on computer cases, it looks really poor in the GUI....

You crazy. Ive would never do that.
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Please get rid of the "dock shelf".... I can't stand looking at it... and why would I have icons siting on a virtual glass shelf anyways... WHY! Am I supposed to think of them as books? Figurines? Maybe they can add a plant or something in iOS7... Thank goodness Forstall is gone.

Agree with every word you just said. Though, this specific issue bothers me a little less. I'm more bothered with the lack of everyday useful stuff, like a dedicated Dictionary app, omission of the Calculator app on iPad, and up-to-date icons for default and third party Clocks, Weather and Calendar apps. These are the simple kinds of things I want solved. You know, like scrollable folders, short cuts and quick replies.
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It's only a matter of time until iPhones and iPads are running multi-core processors and performing like a desktop system.

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Agree with every word you just said. Though, this specific issue bothers me a little less. I'm more bothered with the lack of everyday useful stuff, like a dedicated Dictionary app, omission of the Calculator app on iPad, and up-to-date icons for default and third party Clocks, Weather and Calendar apps. These are the simple kinds of things I want solved. You know, like scrollable folders, short cuts and quick replies.

Ireland, what's the issue with the dock loader? Not trying to sound snarky just generally curious. To me it's fine but it seems a lot of people don't care for it and I just want to know why.
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my wish item is a universal fingerprint-based password API. so every app could use a fingerprint reader in the home button (i assume) instead of conventional text. god i hate passwords. that would be a huge popular hit. of course the rest of the droid mob would copy it ASAP, but Apple would be pushing the technology.

 

 

Moto Attrix has a fingerprint reader to unlock the phone (back in 2011) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmIgNhg0M4.

 

There are Android libraries that use fingerprints for authentication

http://www.developer.com/ws/android/devices/enable-a-fingerprint-scanner-for-android-on-the-motorola-atrix-4g.html

http://www.neurotechnology.com/verifinger-embedded.html

 

AuthenTec, the company that supplied the fingerprint technology for the Attrix has sold it to Apple.  So it will eventually show up on iDevices.

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Ireland, what's the issue with the dock loader? Not trying to sound snarky just generally curious. To me it's fine but it seems a lot of people don't care for it and I just want to know why.

Functionally it's fine, it's just fairly gaudy and unnecessarily skeuomorphic, I suppose. There's no real need for it to look like an actual shelf. When you think about it, the idea of pressing buttons on a shelf on a touch screen seems entirely absurd.
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The are already performing like desktop systems from yesterday and tomorrow they will perform like desktop systems of day after tomorrow...1biggrin.gif.

 

However, they will never perform or function as desktop systems. That is why we have desktop systems. Less and less, but still...

 

As computing power multiplies, iPads will function more like a portal from which you will be able to make requests or give instructions to AI systems in natural language, complete with gestures that are unique to you, instead of having to learn the language of the software.

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I'm looking forward to the refresh. I've liked the journey with OS X and enjoyed the progress all along the way. 200+ new features! Bring 'em on.

 

Here are some things I hope Apple fixes.

 

Mail: Select All / Delete All

Sync: The truth is in the cloud. I think we need to have backups locally and then trust the cloud. Dropbox works. Flawlessly. I still can't figure out the syncing paradigm for photos between iPhoto on my iMac and my iOS devices. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Sync needs to be rock solid across Mail, Notes, Calendars, Music, Podcasts, Photos, and whatever else is offered.

File System: As long as Apple is allowing files to be saved within Apps in iOS, they should rethink how normal people work. Their system is too app-centric and I can never remember where the hell the file is in iOS. It appears Apple has taken baby steps and still tripped all over itself. I can't wait to see new inter-app sharing and features such as being able to open files in various different apps.

Keyboard: I need that 4th row. Check out an awesome App called Write. Sweet.

Printing: I have Printopia and it rules. I'm sure others would like to be able to print.

Interface issues: Notifications and Podcasts and elements of the Safari UI have freakishly small targets to tap. I'd also like to be able to better control my podcast playback while driving. Large buttons, cleanly and clearly separated so I don't hit the wrong one. And remove or change the << button so it doesn't zing to the beginning of the podcast. Make that require a double-tap or something. Better yet, make it so I can just tap the glass on the iPhone to pause whatever is playing. Tap again to resume.

 

Public spanking: Whoever designed the feature where I grab my newly installed App and try to insert it somewhere logical and icons and folders are flying all over the f'ing place, jumping to completely different screens. For the love of god, find this man and cane him.

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As computing power multiplies, iPads will function more like a portal from which you will be able to make requests or give instructions to AI systems in natural language, complete with gestures that are unique to you, instead of having to learn the language of the software.

 

 

That's where I was going above.  The next step, in my opinion, is much higher level integration.  Voice interaction and gestures would let one perform tasks independent of having to use an "app."  The app system is great...it was nearly revolutionary back in 2007, but now it's feeling long in the tooth.  One has to sort through various apps to find the one he wants to use.  Then he has to switch to another app.  Other than games, the integration with the OS could be much stronger.  

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Remember when the Dock icon for iCal was finally improved to show today's date?

 

It would be nice if the Weather app icon in iOS actually noted the temperature. Why is it always 73 degrees?

 

I'd still like to know why the Weather app always reports 73 degrees. Does 73 stand for 1973, first Apple machine?

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I'd still like to know why the Weather app always reports 73 degrees. Does 73 stand for 1973, first Apple machine?

I don't know of any reason why they choose 73°F (or 23°C). I've heard for years that 72°F is an ideal indoor room temp. Perhaps Apple keeps their thermostats at 73°F, but I wouldn't put any stake in that. I'd more likely think that it was within a "normal' temp range that also looked good visually at 73 and 23 over 72 and 22 or 74 and 23.

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Originally Posted by matt_s View Post
I'd still like to know why the Weather app always reports 73 degrees. Does 73 stand for 1973, first Apple machine?

 

The first Apple machine was '76. 73 is just comfortable.

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The first Apple machine was '76. 73 is just comfortable.


Perhaps. It would still be nice if it displayed the actual temperature & weather at the current location. It's a bit ridiculous that's it's always 73 no matter what. So much for "smart" phone. eh? ;-)

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Perhaps. It would still be nice if it displayed the actual temperature & weather at the current location. It's a bit ridiculous that's it's always 73 no matter what. So much for "smart" phone. eh? ;-)

That requires more power to constantly check as your device moves it's location. With the calendar it's only changing once every 24 hours. A solution would be to just check every x duration or when y distance on geo-fence is crossed but that's pretty simple so we have to wonder why Apple hasn't done that. They care about battery life? Would that still affect it too much or would, say, checking it every hour still be too much or be pointless because people would still want to make sure by accessing the app to force a recent check? Surely you can't have it check constantly.

A more complex solution would be for Apple to use the geo-fence idea with push notifications. For instance, if your location moves outside the geo-fence for the app it send the Apple Weather Server your new coordinates. The server then checks to see the weather and if it's different from the last temperature it sent the device. When the temp changes the server pushes the new value to the device which means no back and forth with a request, just an acknowledgment.

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Hey Apple, have you magically made the file system disappear yet? No? Then give us access to it. iOS is less powerful than Android or Windows Phone for the one simple fact that it has a file system but tries to pretend it doesn't.
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That requires more power to constantly check as your device moves it's location. With the calendar it's only changing once every 24 hours. A solution would be to just check every x duration or when y distance on geo-fence is crossed but that's pretty simple so we have to wonder why Apple hasn't done that. They care about battery life? Would that still affect it too much or would, say, checking it every hour still be too much or be pointless because people would still want to make sure by accessing the app to force a recent check? Surely you can't have it check constantly.

A more complex solution would be for Apple to use the geo-fence idea with push notifications. For instance, if your location moves outside the geo-fence for the app it send the Apple Weather Server your new coordinates. The server then checks to see the weather and if it's different from the last temperature it sent the device. When the temp changes the server pushes the new value to the device which means no back and forth with a request, just an acknowledgment.

Would be nice to receive weather info the way we receive time from our carriers, passively.
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