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On the heels of launching its latest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy S4, Samsung is now gearing up to introduce more Android devices, as well as new Windows products, at a June 20 event in London.

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In an invitation sent out to members of the press on Monday, Samsung teased that the company will introduce new products to its Galaxy and Ativ lineups. Galaxy is the brand Samsung uses for its electronics powered by Google's Android platform, while Ativ represents devices running Windows Phone, Windows RT and Windows 8.

Samsung's event will be held just 10 days after Apple's own keynote presentation at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference. There, Apple has to show off new versions of both its iOS and OS X platforms.

It's also expected that Apple will introduce upgraded MacBook models at WWDC featuring Intel's latest-generation Haswell processors. The company is not expected, however, to launch new iPhones or iPads until later this year.

It's unknown exactly what devices Samsung plans to introduce, aside from additions to its Galaxy and Ativ lineups, but the company did accidentally leak images of its forthcoming Galaxy S4 mini on its apps website this weekend. When sorting the company's large smartphone lineup, a thumbnail of Galaxy S4 mini models could be viewed.

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Samsung's press conference will begin at 2 p.m. Eastern time, 8 p.m. local time in London. The event will be live streamed via Samsung Mobile's official YouTube account.

In addition to being in close proximity to Apple's WWDC, the Samsung media event will also occur less than a week before Microsoft's annual Build developer conference. That event runs from June 26 through 28 in San Francisco.
post #2 of 61

Who fricking cares?

I'm normally fine with other reports about Samsung here, but this is just absolutely nothing to do with Apple at all. Take this down.

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post #3 of 61

Just how many devices do they need?

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S4 Mini? So wait... Apple is right selling the iPhone 5 at its current size despite all of the criticism Apple has received for not enlarging the iPhone's screen to better compete with the Galaxy line? I think this is an interesting turn.
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I think the glory days of Appleinsider are over. Now it is reporting what other companies do almost more then apple!

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

It's unknown exactly what devices Samsung plans to introduce, aside from additions to its Galaxy and Ativ lineups ...

 

Don't rule out the mythical toaster-fridge.

Tim Cook's sarcasm may have been lost in the translation to Korean:

 

"Anything can be forced to converge, but products are about tradeoffs.

You can converge a toaster and refrigerator, but those things are probably

not going to be pleasing to the user."

- Tim Cook, 4/24/2012 on FYQ2 earnings call

 

Here's a Samsung fridge.  I'm sure they make toasters too.

Just a matter of time before they're "converged."

 

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I thought this was Apple Insider? I'm done with this, it is being removed from my list as of now!
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An introduction is one thing but in the end it's who launches first that has the best shot. After all unless you introduce something that is light years ahead of the game folks aren't going to wait. Particularly if they follow the typical and just say 'later this year'.

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Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post

Here's a Samsung fridge.  I'm sure they make toasters too.

Just a matter of time before they're "converged."

 

Twitter-Fridge is pretty close to Toaster-Fridge. Engrish might confuse them enough to make the distinction meaningless.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Just how many devices do they need?

This is the Samsung strategy. Spam the market for mindshare.
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I think the glory days of Appleinsider are over. Now it is reporting what other companies do almost more then apple!

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Twitter-Fridge is pretty close to Toaster-Fridge. Engrish might confuse them enough to make the distinction meaningless.

Hee, why didn't you post your froaster link?
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post #13 of 61

I'll know the world is ending when Samsung isn't spamming us with new hardware every month. 

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I think it's relevent insofaras Scamsung's a competitor of Apple so announced competetor phones affect Apple & the market at large but even that's a reach.
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I think the glory days of Appleinsider are over. Now it is reporting what other companies do almost more then apple!

 

Thats because there is no news or rumors about Apple except the recent iOS 7 UI makeover. They have been sitting in the dark for a long time with no new products or services. But that will all change in what 1 week for WWDC?

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When I come to Appleinsider I expect to read the latest about Apple. So, tell me something ne about Apple not Sammy.
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I'll know the world is ending when Samsung isn't spamming us with new hardware every month. 

 

Samsung is keeping themselves in the limelight.  Apple keeps quietly secret for months at a time.

 

As for different models, Samsung is doing what most manufacturers do...  aim at multiple demographics.  From TechCrunch:

 

Kantar Worldpanel ComTech data clearly shows that different Samsung models are appealing to a very different type of consumer.

 

The Galaxy Note II is popular with affluent 25-34 year old males, the Galaxy SIII Mini appeals to younger females, the Galaxy Ace to older females while the Galaxy SIII has broad appeal,” writes Sunnebo.

 

“The fact that Samsung has so many models available in the market is not indicative of a scatter gun approach, simply a realisation that different consumers demand very different handsets, both in functionality, design and price.”

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SamsungInsider.. 'nuff said.

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Who fricking cares?


I'm normally fine with other reports about Samsung here, but this is just absolutely nothing to do with Apple at all. Take this down.

I agree. Is AI that desperate for web hits that they would post what is essentially a full article about a competitor, having nothing to do with Apple?? They should be ashamed of themselves.
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I am guessing they will also introduce a Note III. They will then have a small/medium/large for their galaxy line. Though granted their small which is the Mini is likely to be around 4.3 or 4.5" which is still larger than the iPhone. Even without any rumors or leaks to support it I am still hoping against hope that Apple finally releases a larger iPhone this year. I just don't see how they can even maintain let alone grow their market by offering only a 4" phone. People that want a larger screen will not be appeased by having different colors.

 

Apple has to asess if the number of people who would buy a larger iPhone, that would NOT have bought the current sized iPhone, would outweigh the manufacturing complexities, loss of scale, inefficiencies, and product dilution of doubling the # of SKUs they have, not to mention the fragmentation, marketing messages,  and added software development complexities. Unlike most people, I don't think that asessment is that black and white. I honestly think this demographic is existent, but tiny. Most of the people mocking the iPhone's size would have went with an Android phone anyway, and will still do so if Apple releases a larger version. And most iPhone users who state they prefer a larger size would still buy the current size anyway, as having a larger phone from someone else will not outweigh all the other reasons they like the iPhone.

 

Apple, Google, and Samsung all have different business models. Samsung cares only about selling hardware, so the more models they have, the better. Apple is selling a platform, and it has become successful by being clear, focused, and simple. They generally prefer to cut models than create new ones. There's alot of disadvantages to having to market TWO new iPhones at the same time, while explaining to the consumer the differences. And before someone mentions the iPad, the situations are not equivalent, and there are massive differences. The size difference between the iPad and the mini is significant, and makes the mini a viable option in more situations and usage cases. For the iPhone, its not as clear cut, as Apple will not make a massive phone, and so the its debatable whether the existence of a completely separate, slightly larger model is worthwhile. 

post #21 of 61
Ah Sammy? Is the GS4 not selling well that you need another 5" phone announcement? Shotgun approaches are unsustainable. I bet it's going to be called the Samsung Galaxy Mini Maxi Pad Note 3 w/s-pen.
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I don't understand why people read this article if they are so adamant they don't want to read about Samsung. Doesn't the headline give you enough information that you can simply avoid this?

 

The amateur psychologist in me thinks that those who whine about Samsung stories in fact revel in them. Enjoy! :)

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And in other news, Samsung under pollution antitrust investigation...
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I don't understand why people read this article if they are so adamant they don't want to read about Samsung.

 

You're assuming people read the article and not simply post a comment about the number of Samsung ads, oh excuse me "news", on a supposedly Apple news site.

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Just sayin, I kind of appreciate the Samsung updates. I like knowing what the competition is up to, but I'm probably not going to start reading an actual Samsung website.

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It all happened before. Mac when Microsoft overtook apple in market share for computers. Then apple had the iPod, then the iPhone, then the iPad.
All markets are like this. One company invents or creates a mass market and the others flood it with cheap knocks off. It's not about market share. It's about passion, craft, design, integration and ease of use. I own a mac. How many iPhone users do? Very little.
OSX (and 9 before that) have been around for ages. Macs have always been special, regardless of the amount sold. Let Samsung grab the market. They will push it to mediocre average products, with a ton of bells and whistles that make nice on a spec sheet but are of no actual relevance for the average user because they only function with certain apps, are half baked, and rushed to market for the sake of increasing the length of spec sheets. Did intel's CEO regret that his chips are not in Samsung devices or that they are not in apple's?

Everyone is jealous about apple's success. Just as they were about Microsoft (albeit they truly sold crap, they also created excel (for mac only initially, ah the irony)).

As long as apple stays sharp focused on making the best of the breed and entering innovating markets I don't worry the least. If I was American I would worry that Samsung is Korean... But I am swiss and so I worry apple entering the watch market :-)
I cherish a company that doesn't constantly ask "how much have we sold" "which remote market niche can we tap to sell a couple more products?".
Success is a marathon, not a sprint. Apple competes with Microsoft in computers, with google and Samsung in smartphones, with no one (slowly google and Samsung) in tablets...
So many competitors... Yet it still does well.

So yep, Samsung will be the leader in mass market share. And probably profits (in the very long run though).
But apple, if they manage to keep it that way, will always be apple. Simple, incredibly well crafted and... Empowering. I spend more time doing stuff on my mac than maintaining it, same goes for the iPhone and iPad. Let the android crew end up like Internet Explorer. 10 year old version of the software because people are too lazy to update, don't have a clue or corporate restrictions prevent it. A platform so fragmented that google will have to release security patches for critical vulnerabilities 10 years from no (I'm looking at you windows XP)...
No, thanks. I always bought apple products, not shares. And the money I spared on maintenance, service interruptions is so great that I'm happy. And they have what? 20% market share? It's ok. It truly is.
post #27 of 61
Who really cares ?
Leaked mini, leaked maxi, leaked nappie.

You watch somebody will read something into the flat, black and white buttons in a moment.

Samsung have little of any innovative value to offer. They simply make mediocre copies of leading innovative products.

It's about ecosystem and Android's is pants.
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Just as Apple is under siege to make a LARGER iPhone, The-Company-That-Can-Do-No-Wrong is responding to some market pressure to make theirs SMALLER.

 

Maybe Tim Cook is not as fun as Steve Jobs, but when he says the iPhone 5 is designed to fit in a human hand, I believe him.  Frankly, I find the iPhone 5 screen to be a little too big -- holding it securely in my right hand, I have to stretch uncomfortably to reach the upper-left corner with my right thumb.  I want my iPhone to stay as a device I can operate with one hand and I'll use my full-sized iPad for when I need a mobile device with a big screen.  I'm not interested in any intermediate screen sizes.

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Apple has to asess if the number of people who would buy a larger iPhone, that would NOT have bought the current sized iPhone, would outweigh the manufacturing complexities, loss of scale, inefficiencies, and product dilution of doubling the # of SKUs they have, not to mention the fragmentation, marketing messages,  and added software development complexities. 

 

True, they would have to do all that.  They certainly have the resources.

 

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Unlike most people, I don't think that asessment is that black and white. I honestly think this demographic is existent, but tiny. 

 

It might not be as tiny as people think.

 

The articles claiming Samsung doesn't sell a lot of high end phones, always seem to leave out the Note, which is, if anything, even higher end than the regular Galaxy S model.  They also leave out the other high end models still being sold.

 

 

Take 4Q 2012 as an example.  Of the estimated 65 million smartphones Samsung sold, about 29 million were new and old high end phones.

 

Of those, eight million were Note 2, one million Note 1.   Considering that Apple sold 48 million smartphones that quarter, nine million phablets seems like a pretty good number.

 

(The above also indicates that the idea that Samsung mostly sells low end phone is no longer true, if it ever was.  A good guess is that they sell about 1/3 high, 1/3 mid and 1/3 low end.)

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You're assuming people read the article and not simply post a comment about the number of Samsung ads, oh excuse me "news", on a supposedly Apple news site.

 

Except even if that was a thing, you still can't "keep up" with Samsung because they generate so very many products and just scattershoot them all over the place.  

 

Even if I as a consumer *wanted* to buy a "Galaxy" from Samsung, I still have to do a few hours of research on which of the 20-40 products they sell called "Galaxy," it is that I want.  

 

It's just a shitty, anti-customer way of doing business and there is really no excuse for it.  They just want to make money and don't give a crap about their customers.  In other words, standard business practice (for most businesses).  

 

I'll stick with Apple, one of the very few (large) companies that doesn't do business that way. 

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Except your chart only shows declining interest for larger phones over time, so it argues the opposite of what you are trying to say.  

 

The only two quarters that show what you think they do, are the "fake" (projected) quarters at the end.  

 

All this chart says is "interest in our larger phones has been declining but against all odds and based on no facts we predict that this will magically reverse in the next two quarters." 

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I am guessing they will also introduce a Note III. They will then have a small/medium/large for their galaxy line. Though granted their small which is the Mini is likely to be around 4.3 or 4.5" which is still larger than the iPhone. Even without any rumors or leaks to support it I am still hoping against hope that Apple finally releases a larger iPhone this year. I just don't see how they can even maintain let alone grow their market by offering only a 4" phone. People that want a larger screen will not be appeased by having different colors.

But will people who want different colors be appeased with a larger screen?
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While it has been a little sparse on the Apple rumor scene, I think it makes the annual Apple keynotes more exciting because no one has a clue what they are going to announce. Of course the down side is that people are dreaming of pie in the sky products and the actual announcement could be a disappointment for those. Here's hoping it's not.
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Like Google, Samsung is shooting buckshot. Apple is a high powered sniper rifle.
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Falling Skies is the worst show I've ever seen in my life

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SamsungInsider.. 'nuff said.

 

Nah, the staff focuses on flame war topics.

My problem is that they don't cover Apple news very thoroughly (I'll find Apple articles or news on other sites), and each time I've submitted news, it's completely ignored by the staff, so it's a waste of time to keep doing so. I've heard others complain about a lack of attribution when they do post submitted news, so I guess they do sometimes post submitted news.

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Maybe it's a new washing machine.

 

Seriously the Tab 2 has been out for a while now, time for a refresh and a version with Windows on the same hardware.

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Falling Skies is the worst show I've ever seen in my life

 

Then you haven't watched enough Univision...

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Apple should make a cheap iDroid phone that runs on Android
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Nah, the staff focuses on flame war topics.

My problem is that they don't cover Apple news very thoroughly (I'll find Apple articles or news on other sites), and each time I've submitted news, it's completely ignored by the staff, so it's a waste of time to keep doing so. I've heard others complain about a lack of attribution when they do post submitted news, so I guess they do sometimes post submitted news.

yep....stir up the membership with a little controversy. Lets gets some page hits and ad views!

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