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After becoming the smartphone market leader in China last year, Samsung has reportedly broken records by shipping 12.5 million handsets in the first quarter of 2013, more than doubling sales of Apple's iPhone.

According to market research firm Strategy Analytics, as reported by The Korean Herald (via The Next Web), Samsung broke a smartphone sales record in the booming Chinese smartphone market during the first quarter, selling some 12.5 million handsets, while Apple's iPhone saw sales of 6.1 million units.

Quarter-on-quarter, Samsung boosted its share of the Chinese smartphone market by 2.2 percent, leaving the Korean company with 18.5 percent of all sales for the three month period ending in March. This is the first quarter Samsung sold over 10 million smartphones in the country.

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Second through fifth place went to Chinese companies, including second-place Huawei and third-place Lenovo, which sold 8.1 million and 7.9 million smartphones, respectively. Fourth and fifth place went to Coolpad and ZTE, which managed to move a respective 7 million and 6.4 million units.

Apple landed in sixth place with 6.1 million iPhones sold during the first quarter.

Trailing the pack was Korean manufacturer and the world's third-largest smartphone maker LG, which eked out 100,000 units sold to account for a 0.1 percent share of the Chinese market.

Overall, Chinese consumers purchased 67.4 million smartphones from January to March, accounting for about 32 percent of all worldwide handset sales.

While it is difficult, if not impossible, to make comparisons between sales and shipments, Strategy Analystics' findings are somewhat in line with shipping estimates released by Canalys earlier in May. That report claimed overall Chinese smartphone shipments came out to 82 million units, with Samsung holding 20 percent of the market, up 2.3 percent from the previous quarter.

Samsung joined Apple, which saw iPhone shipments good enough for fifth place, to become the only two foreign companies to earn spots on China's top-ten smartphone manufacturer list for the first quarter.

While specific OEM numbers are disputed in the two reports, it is clear that China has become the world's largest smartphone market, and thus the next battleground for handset makers around the globe.
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After becoming the smartphone market leader in China last year, Samsung has reportedly broken records by shipping 12.5 million handsets in the first quarter of 2013, more than doubling sales of Apple's iPhone.

interesting that samsung's shipments resulted in twice as many iPhones being sold as would have been otherwise, cuz that's what this says.

so without samsung in china, apple would have only sold three million iPhones? but with them there they sold six million?
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Can I have some more articles proclaiming how awesome Samsung is and how awesome they're doing? Cause, you know, there's not nearly enough on this site. There's a couple of non-samsung articles that managed to somehow make it through.
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Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.

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Without any idea what "smart" phone they sold the article is pointless and the S4 picture is very misleading.

It is a safe bet that Apple made more money selling phones in China than all of their competition combined.
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The image in the article is the new flagship Galaxy S4

But I'm guessing most of the Samsung smartphones sold in China are actually their budget phones.

Considering Apple's phones start at $450... are we really shocked that Samsung is the volume leader in smartphone sales?

I'd love to see the sales breakdown of models by price... just for my own curiosity.
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Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.

It's still a Holiday weekend in the US. I didn't really expect a lot of hard-hitting news over the past few days.

At least they mentioned Apple in this article... yay for 6th place in China!
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This is the kind of data that must make Samsung **dread** Apple's inevitable arrival on China Mobile.

The better their share gets now in countries like China and India, the harder the fall for the copyist.
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Seems like AI has become a Samsung PR site these days. What gives?
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It is time for Apple to step up its game in China! As an expat living here it is disheartening to see Samsung taking such a strong position. One of the biggest reasons is their larger screens for smartphones! Apple needs to fill this void in their product line, and quickly. The reason is quite simple. Unlike in the US, where the iPhone dominates, the Chinese consumer's primary computing device is their smartphone, and therefore they prefer the larger screen for everything they do. From viewing websites and photos, to their constant use of social marketing. Certainly price is also a factor, and Samsung is dramatically outspending Apple in marketing and incentives to rapidly gain share. Other key factors are Apple's absence on China Mobile, and Samsung's better understanding and adaptation for the Chinese / Asian market. Speed it up Apple!!!!

 

As to the negative comments here regarding AI's reporting Samsung news, as an investor, it is extremely important to understand your key competition and trends so their reporting is absolutely relevant and appreciated. The key though is not to respond to and mimic Samsung's PR machine, which tries to control the conversation and creates misleading information and FUD, but to objectively report on the facts. To dig deep and actually investigate and report, not repeat others.

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As to the negative comments here regarding AI's reporting Samsung news, as an investor, it is extremely important to understand your key competition and trends so their reporting is absolutely relevant and appreciated. The key though is not to respond to and mimic Samsung's PR machine, which tries to control the conversation and creates misleading information and FUD, but to objectively report on the facts. To dig deep and actually investigate and report, not repeat others.

AI investigate and report? Not going to happen, that requires real work. All AI does is regurgitate what they find on other sites. There are no journalists or investigative reporters on AI now and I am not too sure there ever was.

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Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.

 

If AI posts bad news about Samsung, you guys cheer, hoot, and holler and point fingers at the "Samesung" copycats. 

If AI posts good news about Samsung, you claim that AI is a shill for Samsung and that this is intolerable.

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What's missing from this report is which carriers the companies are available on. The largest carrier in China uses a proprietary radio technology which Apple does not (yet) support, whereas Samsung might. There is talk that the next generation of Qualcomm chips will enable this, and that Apple will use the chip in the next iPhone revision.

I'd like to see these numbers with a breakdown by carrier.


Also bear in mind that China has over a BILLION (Dr. Evil) people, so tens of millions of sales is still small in comparison. As Tim Cook has said, it's a long game.


(And to those complaining that this is a positive article for Samsung, well, that's reality. The information portion is to provide perspective of what kind of market Apple is competing in. Stop being so defensive.)
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I just can't understand how Apple fans don't want to know this information, (and indeed feel threatened and / or personally offended by it).

Tim Cook (and other top staff) got this information as well.  Hmm.... I wonder if he put his fingers in his ears and went LALALALALALA!!  I wonder if he fired the guy who delivered it to him?

 

Are you guys pissed off because this is a story involving a report by "Strategy Analytics"? Or because Samsung is in the report?

 

You're weird.

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Are you guys pissed off because this is a story involving a report by "Strategy Analytics"? Or because Samsung is in the report?

 

Because it's an Apple website, troll. Not a generic tech website, not a Samsung website.

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Ok. Is there a way to filter out articles by category?

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I'm getting tired of all the Samsung nonsense too. It's like being on a Mercedes, BMW, or Audi site and getting constant news about GM and Toyota sales and features.

I understand there's no Apple product news, but surely there's more Apple related news than Samsung.

Here's one for you. Compare the trading volume of Apple stock to that of Google when both were at 700 dollars per share. Ask yourself why there is such a large spread in daily volume for two equally owned and understood companies? Hint: 70% of Apples daily volume is bogus ping pong trades. And remember, 100 shares sets the new price on the margin. Investigate and write about that.

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Apple Insider has certainly deteriorated over this last year. Where is the new analysis and original articles?
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Why don't more people I know own iPhones? Because they are too expensive. The iPhone 5 starts STARTS at nearly €700 here in Ireland. That's the issue. I'm mean, seriously? It should start at around €499. That would be a fair price point for this device.

And the budget 4" iPhone (8GB, plastic) could sell at €399. And the 5" iPhone could sell at €599.

This is what Apple should do in 2013. These 3 products, these 3 price points.
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Because it's an Apple website, troll. Not a generic tech website, not a Samsung website.

 

Do you think the Apple execs don't pay attention to news like this?  Of course they do!  Actions of competitors is one of the major categories included in strategic analysis.  Granted, they aren't reading AppleInsider for their news, but they are getting the same information and making decisions based on it.  Articles like this help readers understand why Apple does whatever it does in the future.

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IM SO SICK OF SEEING SAMSUNG ON THIS SITE IT'S NOT SAMSUNGINSIDER IT'S APPLEINSIDE IM GONNA LEAVE THIS SITE IF YOU KEEP REPORTING NEWS ABOUT SAMSUNG NO ONE CARES ABOUT SAMSUNG WHY DON'T YOU POST MORE APPLE STUFF ARRGGHHH&$@*%%€€£¥€€€€€*^%&@&&€€£^^%&&€^%!!!



Seriously, what's the deal with those kinds of posts? As Apple's only substantial competition in the smartphone arena, news about their product line and market share is just as relevant as news about Apple. I don't think I even needed to say that, though. I'm just feeding trolls here.
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Seems like AI has become a Samsung PR site these days. What gives?

Remember, Apple is in the midst of a share buy-back program, long-term investors benefit if Apple stock price is talked down during the duration of that buy-back.

They can talk the company, as long as they don't talk down the products. All the more of a rally when the negative expectations are proven wrong, and Americans love a come-back more than an eternal winner.
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Ok. Is there a way to filter out articles by category?
Well...you could read the title and decide if you want to read it...
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What's missing from this report is which carriers the companies are available on. The largest carrier in China uses a proprietary radio technology which Apple does not (yet) support, whereas Samsung might. There is talk that the next generation of Qualcomm chips will enable this, and that Apple will use the chip in the next iPhone revision.

I'd like to see these numbers with a breakdown by carrier.


Also bear in mind that China has over a BILLION (Dr. Evil) people, so tens of millions of sales is still small in comparison. As Tim Cook has said, it's a long game.


(And to those complaining that this is a positive article for Samsung, well, that's reality. The information portion is to provide perspective of what kind of market Apple is competing in. Stop being so defensive.)

The issue is not really a radio one, it is just about two of the biggest companies in the world who are both used to getting what they want not being able to compromise. China Mobile want a better financial deal and Apple won't set up supporting telecoms (China Telecom and China Unicom) for a fall. Apple could have produced a unit that would work on China Mobile ages ago and it would have been worth it given the numbers they would instantly sell. Apple does not want to offer a different financial package to CM or they will open the door to all the other telecom companies coming back and trying to renegotiate terms.

 

A compromise deal would also open up competition issues that could land Apple in court again.

 

Samsung really want to do well in this market and are doing all sorts of discount deals for their medium range of smartphones. Also it seems to be impossible to stand anywhere in the city without being in sight of a Samsung advertisment.

 

This is also a good market for Samsung to do well with it's app store as there is no Google Play in China.

 

There are a lot of big screen phones being bought here and both the note and the S3 were very popular although I can't see the appeal of a phone so large and will stick with my 5 very happily. This may be a case of usage. A lot of people watch videos on their phones here and play a lot of games which suits a big screen.

 

Also there is little self-conciousness about holding up a device so large to there ear. 

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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.
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Really without knowing the average selling price of the phones, there is no comparison to be made. If Apple's was$400 and Samsung's was $60 well so what?! Does the report give the ASPs?
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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

 

...and every one of your 200+ family members who was there with a Galaxy is a product that Google is selling. Be a part of that and feel smug, criticise boring old Apple all you like even while professing your love but don't be ignorant of Google's goal, which isn't your liberation.

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AI... more click bait. This is becoming such a pain. This site was once a bastion for those of us who cared about Apple but is now just money-grubbing.

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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

That's really odd.  I attend a major university and work for a hospital and I see far more iPhones that android devices. The people I know that have android phones annoy me because they are always asking me to help them figure it out and I honestly have no desire to deal with that.  I hope you made sure all of the 200 family members had some kind of virus protection running on their phones.

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Could you please stop reporting smart phone sales and just report phone sales?  Did Samsung sell more phones, or did it just replace a bunch of cheap "feature" phone sales with cheap "smart" phone sales? Is the rapid trend in the world towards smartphones helping or hurting Samsung's overall phone sales in China?


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Let's not be an a-hole now please. I've been an iPhone user since the original and have loved apple products since first using a mac back in 1996, I was only 14 then. I also hold some shares in AAPL, so I think I have the right to voice my own opinions about their products. I'm only sharing the changes I've noticed within a year. Don't be fooled. Every company uses our information as they wish. How about you re-read the T. O. S for every company on the planet. Google doesn't hide that they're an advertising company that relies on your information for their business. They do give the option to opt in or out. I chose to opt in by using their products and I can only imagine that even iPhone users use some Google services. I chose to switch to the gs3 because things integrate better with android than they do with iPhone. Apple's sandboxing implementation in ios5 broke Alot of seamless integration of some of my apps. My user experience has only gotten worse
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...and every one of your 200+ family members who was there with a Galaxy is a product that Google is selling. Be a part of that and feel smug, criticise boring old Apple all you like even while professing your love but don't be ignorant of Google's goal, which isn't your liberation.
, so I tried something new and liked it. It works better for my particular needs.
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I also have seen many people who don't know how to use iPhone, so your point is moot. No need for antiviral software if you download from the play store or from reliable sources. It's the equivalent of ha information a jailbroken iPhone. Just be careful. The only ly difference is if I want to Down load from another store, I just check a box that gives me the ability. I had to always jailbreak and play the cat and mouse game just to be able to do that. I'm not here to argue with anyone. I'm an apple fan that chose to use a different device. I don't understand the blind love for a company here. I can now understand why people tease and call some people fan boys. Geez! I can't even safely share an opinion, preference,
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That's really odd.  I attend a major university and work for a hospital and I see far more iPhones that android devices. The people I know that have android phones annoy me because they are always asking me to help them figure it out and I honestly have no desire to deal with that.  I hope you made sure all of the 200 family members had some kind of virus protection running on their phones.
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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

My core group of friends number to 10 and 8 of us have iPhones. Maybe instead of watching your 200+ family members phone choices, you'll actually talk to them.
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I do speak to my family and most of them had iPhones last year and have switched because they wanted a bigger screen. The ones who are techies like myself, said they got tired of chasing jailbreaks and wanted more freedom to change their experience with the phone. My core group of friends numbering 8, 7 of them have iPhones. 3of them
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My core group of friends number to 10 and 8 of us have iPhones. Maybe instead of watching your 200+ family members phone choices, you'll actually talk to them.
are waiting for their contracts to end in June before getting the HTC one.
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Let's not be an a-hole now please...

 

Perhaps I was, which wasn't my intention. Neither though your statements such as 'things integrate better with android than they do with iPhone'. Breathtaking rubbish. You want to post with impunity and then call those out who offer a counter experience. Have the last word then, no doubt you will.

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Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.

 

Agreed. If I actually want inside information I just talk to fellow alumni. If I want interesting speculation I no longer visit here. If I want to watch pointless bitch sessions I definitely stop by.

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Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.

 

Self-edit - removed my unnecessary rant... but I agree!


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That's really odd.  I attend a major university and work for a hospital and I see far more iPhones that android devices. The people I know that have android phones annoy me because they are always asking me to help them figure it out and I honestly have no desire to deal with that.  I hope you made sure all of the 200 family members had some kind of virus protection running on their phones.

 

Dadoria2 sounds just about right. I also attend the largest private university the US and work for a large city agency in NYC. There used to be a lot of iPhones and MacBook's until last year -- when I spotted fewer than half a dozen S2's in wilderness -- but so much changed since about the same time Dadoria2 noticed the Galaxy invasion. At work, it used to be all Blackberries; now our new CIO is a Apple fan and IT supports Apple iDevices only. 

 

I also get asked a lot by complete strangers, mostly in their 50's and 60's, when I'm off-campus or in the parks. Perhaps it's my big phone, the Note 2, or my beguiling youth -- while I do my best to be helpful, it gets a bit annoying at times.

 

I just wish there were more blatant security exploits like Comex's jailbreakme.com (remember from 2010?) in Android -- which expoloited iOS safari security hole to jailbreak your phone directly from web browser. no cables! no shady firmware uploader, all done in less than 2 mins?  Heimdall and Samsung's flash counters in Android world are very annoying..


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Agreed. If I actually want inside information I just talk to fellow alumni. If I want interesting speculation I no longer visit here. If I want to watch pointless bitch sessions I definitely stop by.

 

speaking of insider information, is Apple still on with Global Foundry in update NY?

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This means Samsung is plateauing, while Apple has room for growth in China. Good news for Apple and Samsung is doomed (well, this is literally how it would have been spun against Apple, were the numbers reversed :-).
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