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Samsung sold twice as many phones from its product portfolio than Apple's iPhone? I'll be damn worried if I were Samsung...

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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

Sorry to hear your family is breeding like flies . . . oops, shouldn't go off topic . . .

Seriously, in your little troll script, you left out the part about how many of your teeming swarm of relatives formerly had iPhones. Suddenly they all show up with smartphones and they all happen to be big, fat Android slabs? In other words, your relatives didn't switch, they just jumped into the Samsung pigpen? Didn't you forget to say how they all became disillusioned with Apple's arrogance in not doing big screens?

I really think it would help you if you could "run two apps onsceen at once" on your iPad. You would feel so fulfilled and empowered. Since you're such "a huge Apple fan," maybe you could keep Apple from losing 200 valuable and discerning customers, your family. By the way, did you rap your spoon on a glass, ask for everybody's attention, and then tell all the iPhone owners to hold up their phones? How is a survey conducted, in other words, of a ragtag army of . . . well, you know what I mean. You are dissembling. Lying.
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This means Samsung is plateauing, while Apple has room for growth in China. Good news for Apple and Samsung is doomed (well, this is literally how it would have been spun against Apple, were the numbers reversed :-).

 

Lol, my day is just a little brighter now.

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post #44 of 110
Samsung shipment includes your grand mum one ?
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Dadoria2 sounds just about right. I also attend the largest private university the US and work for a large city agency in NYC. There used to be a lot of iPhones and MacBook's until last year -- when I spotted fewer than half a dozen S2's in wilderness -- but so much changed since about the same time Dadoria2
 noticed the Galaxy invasion. At work, it used to be all Blackberries; now our new CIO is a Apple fan and IT supports Apple idevices only. 

I also get asked a lot by complete strangers, mostly in their 50's and 60's, when I'm off-campus or in the parks. Perhaps it's my big phone, the Note 2, or my beguiling youth  -- while I do my best to be helpful, it gets a bit annoying at times.

I just wish there were more blatant security exploits Comex's jailbreakme.com (remember from 2010?) -- which expoloited iOS safari security hole to jailbreak your phone directly from web browser. no cables! no shady firmware uploader, all done in less than 2 mins?  Heimdall and Samsung's flash counters are very annoying..

See, this is the latest fad in professional trolling. It's called "make up a detailed story about how everybody is switching from Apple to (insert one or more) Android, HTC One, Samsung, or . . . ?

Family, co-workers, "core group of friends." etc. So transparent. "Stale iOS" is out for the moment. Screen size is the new point of trolling leverage, so they think.
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See, this is the latest fad in professional trolling. It's called "make up a detailed story about how everybody is switching from Apple to (insert one or more) Android, HTC One, Samsung, or . . . ?

Family, co-workers, "core group of friends." etc. So transparent. "Stale iOS" is out for the moment. Screen size is the new point of trolling leverage, so they think.


You would be an apt character model for a new edition to a well know popular childrens book series:

 

Mr Defensive

post #47 of 110
People are so hard on AI... this is 'free' news... you shouldn't be expecting anything.

The reporting style here, even if it's regurgitated is far strong than competing sites.

Also. I like to know how Apple is doing in comparison to the competition...

Apple is in competition with Samsung. Samsung news is relevant to AI readers.
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Really without knowing the average selling price of the phones, there is no comparison to be made. If Apple's was$400 and Samsung's was $60 well so what?! Does the report give the ASPs?


Well there has been news this last week which AI didn't seem fit to report, that being Samsung 'shipped' 10 M Galaxy S4s in under a month.

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It is time for Apple to step up its game in China! As an expat living here it is disheartening to see Samsung taking such a strong position. One of the biggest reasons is their larger screens for smartphones! Apple needs to fill this void in their product line, and quickly. The reason is quite simple. Unlike in the US, where the iPhone dominates, the Chinese consumer's primary computing device is their smartphone, and therefore they prefer the larger screen for everything they do. From viewing websites and photos, to their constant use of social marketing. Certainly price is also a factor, and Samsung is dramatically outspending Apple in marketing and incentives to rapidly gain share. Other key factors are Apple's absence on China Mobile, and Samsung's better understanding and adaptation for the Chinese / Asian market. Speed it up Apple!!!!

 

As to the negative comments here regarding AI's reporting Samsung news, as an investor, it is extremely important to understand your key competition and trends so their reporting is absolutely relevant and appreciated. The key though is not to respond to and mimic Samsung's PR machine, which tries to control the conversation and creates misleading information and FUD, but to objectively report on the facts. To dig deep and actually investigate and report, not repeat others.

 

What a load of rubbish.

 

There is no breakdown of the models sold so there is absolutely no evidence supporting your screen size claim.

 

Once again you have fallen into the trap of associating Samsung "smartphones" with their high end models, while ignoring the bulk of their sales which are lower priced, lower specced models often with smaller screens all the way down to under 3".

 

These are the phones being sold in China, people aren't sacrificing several months of their entire income on buying high end smartphones.

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Well there has been news this last week which AI didn't seem fit to report, that being Samsung 'shipped' 10 M Galaxy S4s in under a month.

There's no doubt that Samsung ships/sells a lot of units. They are the volume leader in smartphone sales.

But I, too, would like to know which phones they are selling... if nothing else than for my own curiosity. And not just phones from Samsung... I'd like to know them all.

Here is something I've noticed from reading these forums. We only really talk about a handful of phones... Galaxy S3/S4, HTC One, Galaxy Note, Nexus 4, etc. It's easy to compare sales of a handful of flagship phones to another phone... like the iPhone.

But there were 162 million Android phones sold last quarter. 1eek.gif

What were they?

That's the reason I never understood the "Android is winning" argument... when "Android" is mostly made up of cheap non-flagship phones sold around the world.
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Why don't more people I know own iPhones? Because they are too expensive. The iPhone 5 starts STARTS at nearly €700 here in Ireland. That's the issue. I'm mean, seriously? It should start at around €499. That would be a fair price point for this device.

And the budget 4" iPhone (8GB, plastic) could sell at €399. And the 5" iPhone could sell at €599.

This is what Apple should do in 2013. These 3 products, these 3 price points.

 

Why not this price point I'm sure Samsung is selling boatloads of these.

 

Look all free on the same €75 plan.

 

We have to pay $A80.

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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

 

WHY DIDN'T YOU GET THE NOTE 2 IF RUNNING TWO THINGS AT ONCE ON SCREEN IS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU???

 

DISCLAINER IS SPELT DISCLAIMER AND THE CAPS LOCK KEY IS over here.

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post #53 of 110
Why is this news?
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The fact that 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th place went to cheap Chinese brands you hardly hear about in the west tells you this is a low price commodity market and NOT the kind of hill you want Apple, a premium brand, to be king of.

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Samsung shipment includes your grand mum one ?

 

lol.gif bull's eye...

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I mentioned two apps at once regarding my ipad and I didn't say they were that important to me. I just asked a question. Why would I ditch my ipad for a smaller screened device? Besides my gs3 can already run two apps at once. I used all caps so it'll be pronounced that my opinion and experiences are not everyone else's, but apparently you guys on this site don't value other people's input. This isn't an English class. I'm typing on a phone at 2 in the morning. Get a life it's a fanboy news site.
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WHY DIDN'T YOU GET THE NOTE 2 IF RUNNING TWO THINGS AT ONCE ON SCREEN IS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU???

DISCLAINER IS SPELT DISCLAIMER AND THE CAPS LOCK KEY IS over here.

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Is it SALES or SHIPMENTS? They are not the same thing.

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So, are you lying are just not paying attention.

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Well there has been news this last week which AI didn't seem fit to report, that being Samsung 'shipped' 10 M Galaxy S4s in under a month.

 

Appleinsider story

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Wow! Insecure much? They're all just companies dude. No need to try and insult me. It only brings out your fanaticism and insecurities. We can afford to be a large family. I'm 30, my mom 56 and my grand parents are still alive and are 93 and 95. I have a 2 year old son. You can clearly see we weren't young parents and all had our kids in marriage. So yeah, we multiply because we want to and
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Sorry to hear your family is breeding like flies . . . oops, shouldn't go off topic . . .

Seriously, in your little troll script, you left out the part about how many of your teeming swarm of relatives formerly had iPhones. Suddenly they all show up with smartphones and they all happen to be big, fat Android slabs? In other words, your relatives didn't switch, they just jumped into the Samsung pigpen? Didn't you forget to say how they all became disillusioned with Apple's arrogance in not doing big screens?

I really think it would help you if you could "run two apps onsceen at once" on your iPad. You would feel so fulfilled and empowered. Since you're such "a huge Apple fan," maybe you could keep Apple from losing 200 valuable and discerning customers, your family. By the way, did you rap your spoon on a glass, ask for everybody's attention, and then tell all the iPhone owners to hold up their phones? How is a survey conducted, in other words, of a ragtag army of . . . well, you know what I mean. You are dissembling. Lying.
can afford to. Besides families were larger back in those days before America turned to shit and started necessitating a two income household. Be easy, I clearly stated my opinions are my own. And yes, my family all had iPhone last year. I don't need to take a poll because we all talk, we're all close. Wow! The blind hate for opinions that don't side with your own is just insane to me. You may be a long time member, 1 year before me but the moderators should really look at taking care of people like you.
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Because it's an Apple website, troll. Not a generic tech website, not a Samsung website.

Do you think the Apple execs don't pay attention to news like this?  Of course they do!  Actions of competitors is one of the major categories included in strategic analysis.  Granted, they aren't reading AppleInsider for their news, but they are getting the same information and making decisions based on it.  Articles like this help readers understand why Apple does whatever it does in the future.

I am bothered by the incompleteness and misleading picture. Any Apple investor or employee should dismiss this story as nonsense. Why? Because this sory is nonsense. No models. No prices. No margins. Marketshare is not a business strategy....
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Is it SALES or SHIPMENTS? They are not the same thing.

It is shipments of undefined devices people at strategy analytics decided were smartphones.
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Sorry to hear your family is breeding like flies . . . oops, shouldn't go off topic . . .

Seriously, in your little troll script, you left out the part about how many of your teeming swarm of relatives formerly had iPhones. Suddenly they all show up with smartphones and they all happen to be big, fat Android slabs? In other words, your relatives didn't switch, they just jumped into the Samsung pigpen? Didn't you forget to say how they all became disillusioned with Apple's arrogance in not doing big screens?

I really think it would help you if you could "run two apps onsceen at once" on your iPad. You would feel so fulfilled and empowered. Since you're such "a huge Apple fan," maybe you could keep Apple from losing 200 valuable and discerning customers, your family. By the way, did you rap your spoon on a glass, ask for everybody's attention, and then tell all the iPhone owners to hold up their phones? How is a survey conducted, in other words, of a ragtag army of . . . well, you know what I mean. You are dissembling. Lying.

 

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See, this is the latest fad in professional trolling. It's called "make up a detailed story about how everybody is switching from Apple to (insert one or more) Android, HTC One, Samsung, or . . . ?

Family, co-workers, "core group of friends." etc. So transparent. "Stale iOS" is out for the moment. Screen size is the new point of trolling leverage, so they think.
 
Maybe he is trolling, or maybe he is in a family where people actually used to have iPhones, and - not being fanatically devoted to a company like many here - changed their phones because they liked a bigger screen, or other reasons. Is everybody lying? The entire world and their crazy stats? I saw this kind of denial and fanaticism on a blackberry site when they were in free fall. Which is a bit worrying. If all Apple is left with is fanatics, then it is doomed.
 
Most people here want to see Apple do well. Which means do better. A bigger screen, more models. 
 
A small sub group want none of that, and no mention of competitors, and no discussion of anything outside their comfort zone (which is anything critical of Apple), or any rumors which seem to be Apple following the trend to bigger screens, or lowering prices. 
 
Basically if they had their way this site would be updated twice a day with fluff about iPhone accessories. ( Stories which generate about 10 comments on average). I can's see it being in AI's interest to just cater to the See No Evils. 
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post #63 of 110

I've been holding my nose and tolerating AppleInsider's fauning coverage of Samsung for a while, but this story goes too far.

 

Who gives a shit how many units Sammy sells in a corrupt police state? They probably paid more bribes to the Chinese government and the state-run corporations. Chinese incomes are still way behind those of Amercians and their currency is artifically manipulated, so it's obvious that cheap Korean crap would be the natural choice of the masses.

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Why is this news?

Why is it not?

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Wow! Insecure much? They're all just companies dude. No need to try and insult me. It only brings out your fanaticism and insecurities. We can afford to be a large family. I'm 30, my mom 56 and my grand parents are still alive and are 93 and 95. I have a 2 year old son. You can clearly see we weren't young parents and all had our kids in marriage. So yeah, we multiply because we want to and
can afford to. Besides families were larger back in those days before America turned to shit and started necessitating a two income household. Be easy, I clearly stated my opinions are my own. And yes, my family all had iPhone last year. I don't need to take a poll because we all talk, we're all close. Wow! The blind hate for opinions that don't side with your own is just insane to me. You may be a long time member, 1 year before me but the moderators should really look at taking care of people like you.


Dadoria2,

You have to understand one think, he just cannot help himself. Ever noticed that small dog always barks on big dog which does not pay any attention?. I still have and use my old trusty 3GS, my wife will not part with hers 4S, but I also have S3 and, IMHO it is a good phone. In the company that I am with about 95% are iPhones and 2 people (CEO and one other) still cannot part with Blackberry. In past 2 weeks I have seen 1 person switching from 4S to G4 and 3 others openly stating to switch to G4 after their contract expire. The main reasons are: larger screen and beeing tired of iPhone jailbraking game.

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Because it's an Apple website, troll. Not a generic tech website, not a Samsung website.

Do you think the Apple execs don't pay attention to news like this?  Of course they do!  Actions of competitors is one of the major categories included in strategic analysis.  Granted, they aren't reading AppleInsider for their news, but they are getting the same information and making decisions based on it.  Articles like this help readers understand why Apple does whatever it does in the future.

I am bothered by the incompleteness and misleading picture. Any Apple investor or employee should dismiss this story as nonsense. Why? Because this sory is nonsense. No models. No prices. No margins. Marketshare is not a business strategy....

Of course it is.

May not be every businesses. But it's a strategy. I can't imagine why anyone would say it's not. (fingers in ears) LALALALALA

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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

 

From what I heard the new iOS will be more powerfull as Apple will tend to merge OS-X and iOS features in the next few years. But you are right, iOS is lagging Android. This may change in a few weeks, lets hope they leap over it. I wouldn't be surprise if Apple introduce some kind of touch base laptop with OS-X borrowing iOS features while iOS borrow some OS-X features in terms of  power.

 

There is also the screen size problem, beside a few Apple worshippers, prettymuch  the entire planet is screaming for a bigger iphone model.


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Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.

I couldn't agree more. if these reports actually compared like with like, i.e. smart phones of similar features (excluding Scamsung low end crap) and included other relevant data such as profits from actual sales of these similar featured phones it might have some meaning.

If you or any other poster here comes across a blog for Apple enthusiasts that hasn't turned into a click bait store let me know. I left MacRumors for the same reason, I can leave AI.
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Are you guys pissed off because this is a story involving a report by "Strategy Analytics"? Or because Samsung is in the report?

 

Because it's an Apple website, troll. Not a generic tech website, not a Samsung website.

Plenty of other Apple stories that also include Samsung info (how could they not). And even a number of stories including mention of Strategy Analytics. So that blows away your first point. Seems to me you  just don't like what's being said (trolls usually don't)

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Plenty of other Apple stories that also include Samsung info (how could they not). And even a number of stories including mention of Strategy Analytics. So that blows away your first point. Seems to me you  just don't like what's being said (trolls usually don't)

I'd have to disagree with your take on this. There are ways of presenting a story and then there are different ways .... sadly the trend is to be deliberately contentious most of the time and fish for trolls and defensive replies.

If the reports were fair and balanced in the first pace there would be less of this. After all these years I have watched this blog become more and more ... shall we say 'tabloid'. Then again alas, so has most of the US media. Perhaps it is the ad / click driven result Google has had on the culture. It will be interesting to look back in a decade or so and see if this continues or if the current ad models change and the Twitter, FB and so on reach their mathematical pyramid peaks and collapse. I wonder what would come next?
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I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

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From what I heard the new iOS will be more powerfull as Apple will tend to merge OS-X and iOS features in the next few years. But you are right, iOS is lagging Android. This may change in a few weeks, lets hope they leap over it. I wouldn't be surprise if Apple introduce some kind of touch base laptop with OS-X borrowing iOS features while iOS borrow some OS-X features in terms of  power.

There is also the screen size problem, beside a few Apple worshippers, prettymuch  the entire planet is screaming for a bigger iphone model.

I would prefer a larger iPhone but that is my preference. A useful piece of information from the article would be the screen sizes of the phones sold by Samsung in China. I doubt they sold that many flagship phones there or we would have heard about it, but I don't know the screen sizes on their lesser models.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
Do you think the Apple execs don't pay attention to news like this?

 

What the frick does that have to do with what I've said? No, honestly: Answer that question.


Granted, they aren't reading AppleInsider…

 

Spectacular. Now that you've removed the only possible explanation for why you would even ask that in the first place, I'm stumped.

 

Originally Posted by Dadoria2 
[anecdotal crap]…  I'm a huge apple fan, but…  I'm still a huge apple fan but… I've been an iPhone user since the original and have loved apple products since first using a mac back in 1996… …I also hold some shares in AAPL, so I think I have the right to voice my own opinions about their products.

 

SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.


Originally Posted by Dadoria2 
Every company uses our information as they wish.

 

Total falsehood.


Originally Posted by Dadoria2
I also have seen many people who don't know how to use iPhone, so your point is moot. 

 

Who on Earth doesn't know how to use an iPhone?


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Dadoria2 sounds just about right.

 

WONDER WHY.


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You would be an apt character model for a new edition to a well know popular childrens book series:

 

Mr Defensive

 

That's two of them, feverishly wrapping towels around themselves as they hop out of the shower and rush to the aid of their fellow… 


Originally Posted by isaidso View Post
Plenty of other Apple stories that also include Samsung info (how could they not). And even a number of stories including mention of Strategy Analytics. So that blows away your first point. Seems to me you  just don't like what's being said (trolls usually don't)

 

Maybe actually answer the question instead of just following your party line.

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Guess Im not as crazy as everyone is trying to make me seem. You've basically experienced and seen the same things I mentioned, yet the fanatics on this site seem to think I'm delusional in saying
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Dadoria2,
You have to understand one think, he just cannot help himself. Ever noticed that small dog always barks on big dog which does not pay any attention?. I still have and use my old trusty 3GS, my wife will not part with hers 4S, but I also have S3 and, IMHO it is a good phone. In the company that I am with about 95% are iPhones and 2 people (CEO and one other) still cannot part with Blackberry. In past 2 weeks I have seen 1 person switching from 4S to G4 and 3 others openly stating to switch to G4 after their contract expire. The main reasons are: larger screen and beeing tired of iPhone jailbraking game.
many some people want a bigger screen. I personally got tired of chasing jailbreaks (for me a stock iPhone was painful to use after being accustomed to jailbreaks) and a bigger screen was welcomed.
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Is it SALES or SHIPMENTS? They are not the same thing.

 

In many reports, they are the same, because shipments to retailers are reported as sales.  That goes for Apple as well.  (They all have to fill inventory channels, too.)

 

However, Strategy Analytics is different from say, IDC, who reports such shipments into inventory channels.  

 

Instead, SA usually analyzes and reports end user sales.   That is, they count up sell-through from both online and physical stores.   On the downside, they do not include grey market sales in China, which can be significant at times.

 

I cannot say for sure if this report was done that way, but that's what SA usually does.

 

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It is shipments of undefined devices people at strategy analytics decided were smartphones.

 

SA's definition: "A smartphone is a handheld device that matches cellular voice and data capabilities with a branded high- level operating system such as Android, iOS, Blackberry, Windows Phone, Symbian, Meego, Tizen, Bada, webOS ."

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many some people want a bigger screen. I personally got tired of chasing jailbreaks (for me a stock iPhone was painful to use after being accustomed to jailbreaks) and a bigger screen was welcomed.

 

Speaking of which, Strategy Analytics just came out with another report that says, in part:

 

"In the second half of 2012 existing smartphone owners were most likely to be interested in devices with a screen size between 4.2-inches and 4.7-inches.  [This was an increase] from the same period in 2011, where a 4.3-inch device was most preferred.
 
"[People thinking of buying their first smartphone] show greater interest in slightly smaller devices than existing smartphone owners.  Males preferred smartphones with larger screens than females, while current brand of smartphone also impacts future screen size preferences. Nearly all respondents showed a preference for their next phone to have a larger screen size than their existing handset."
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Guess Im not as crazy as everyone is trying to make me seem. You've basically experienced and seen the same things I mentioned, yet the fanatics on this site seem to think I'm delusional in saying
many some people want a bigger screen. I personally got tired of chasing jailbreaks (for me a stock iPhone was painful to use after being accustomed to jailbreaks) and a bigger screen was welcomed.

So how come iPhones still outsell high end Samsung phones?

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. . . Is everyone lying? . . .

Not everyone, but it seems that way sometimes. You missed the last one, realitycheck, remember? Turns out he was the old AbsoluteDesignz, who was in turn (probably) the old ZitherZatherZuzz, who was the old ConradJoe, etc., etc.

Dadoria2 would have us believe that he knows that only 3 of his 200 relatives have iPhones, and implies they all changed to big-screen Samsungs, and that these details are at his fingertips.

Does that sound like a believable to you? I would say that sounds like the usual crap from the pro troll pool, but then again he could be for real. If so my apologies to him, but I would say that if you're going to make points here off a survey of your extended family, you should be diligent enough to make it credible. If you don't, understand that you look like you are one of the troll rabble.

I don't care one way or the other about the large-screen debate. Apple will maybe do one when they can do it right. It will take them much longer to do than it would Samsung, because they will be working much harder to fit it into their ecosystem. Meanwhile we have to endure post after post from the trolls and from people like you, who think they percieve a weakness in Apple's edifice over this large-screen business—like they can just churn out a new platform at will, like Samsung can, owning all the tooling like they do, and not caring about the ecosystem, like they don't.
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Not everyone, but it seems that way sometimes. You missed the last one, realitycheck, remember? Turns out he was the old AbsoluteDesignz, who was in turn (probably) the old ZitherZatherZuzz, who was the old ConradJoe, etc., etc.

 

Let's see if I can remember…

 

ConradJoe was his own thing, then Zither, NakedApe2… nope, can't remember. He had at least twelve accounts; probably more.

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So how come iPhones still outsell high end Samsung phones?


Does it?

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Wow - this site has devolved into an echo chamber. I can't recall seeing a more insecure group of flamers in the almost-three decades that I've been using Apple products.

Have fun pouncing on even the slightest non-Apple advocacy that someone might dare post in your precious comment section. And don't forget to pounce on this post as well, as it will surely strengthen your arguments.

(leaves AI in disgust)
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