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The new iWork for iCloud will bring Pages, Numbers and Keynote to the Web, allowing users to quickly access, edit and save their documents from the Internet.

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iWork for iCloud was demonstrated by Apple Monday at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference keynote. All of the demonstrations were done through a Safari browser running on a Mac.

Users will be able to quickly edit and save documents, and even do advanced tasks like adding images, cropping them, and rotating them. iWork for iCloud will also support Keynote animations for transitioning between slides.

iWork for iCloud will also support Microsoft Windows and Office. The demonstration showed a Keynote document being edited in Windows 8 using Google's Chrome browser.

Support will also be available for Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser. iWork for iCloud is available now for developers as a beta, and a public beta for all users will launch later this year.
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So much better looking than Google Docs.

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So after 5 years all they can offer is an iCloud update. :-(
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So after 5 years all they can offer is an iCloud update. :-(

 

Did you watch it?

 

Whole new interface, I'm guessing the desktop version will follow.

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He said the native version will be updated later this year.
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Did you watch it?

Whole new interface, I'm guessing the desktop version will follow.
Nope, on holiday so only read what was on AI. Hope they do pull their fingers out of their butts & give it a real update.
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He said the native version will be updated later this year.

Exactly.  On both OSX and iOS.  It'll be interesting if it will cost anything for those of us with iWork 09 or iWork on iOS.  Maybe iOS is free but OSX isn't?  Time will tell...

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So after 5 years all they can offer is an iCloud update. :-(

He said in the announcement new versions of the Apps would be coming later this year. He was only demoing the iCloud apps. 

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Originally Posted by saarek View Post
So after 5 years all they can offer is an iCloud update. :-(

 

"WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?!"

 

*Apple releases it*

 

"THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?!"

 

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"WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?!"

*Apple releases it*

"THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?!"

Never effing changes. 1oyvey.gif

We will always have iCloud iClods.
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And when would I need this since I always have my computer or Ipad with me?
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Originally Posted by rmusikantow View Post
And when would I need this since I always have my computer or Ipad with me?

 

For Windows peasants, really. So they can see what they're missing.

 

I think it was really embarrassing for Craig to have to open Chrome to use it in the Windows demo. I'm not saying it was embarrassing FOR Craig, just that the situation was embarrassing. They really need a Safari 6 for Windows. Well, 7, I guess, given 10.9's changes…

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Have zero interest in saving my docs to the Cloud. Aside from the NSA considerations, I like having my stuff where I can edit it offline. Docs in iCloud are useless to me. Not everyone collaborates. In fact, I'd argue most don't.
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Have zero interest in saving my docs to the Cloud. Aside from the NSA considerations, I like having my stuff where I can edit it offline. Docs in iCloud are useless to me. Not everyone collaborates. In fact, I'd argue most don't.

 

Some people have multiple computers/devices.

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This feature is the most surprising update to me. I'm hoping it can give MSOffice and GDocs a run for their money.
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Originally Posted by jpolk84 View Post
Aside from the NSA considerations

 

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with this in any capacity…


I like having my stuff where I can edit it offline.

 

So you like to manually carry your files around and copy them to every computer you work on, twice or more a day, every day?


Docs in iCloud are useless to me.

 

Sure they are¡


Not everyone collaborates.

 

I didn't see a single effing thing about collaboration. This has nothing whatsoever to do with collaboration. Why would you be dumb enough to share your iCloud information? This is for INDIVIDUALS who want to work on documents ACROSS ALL THEIR MACHINES.


Crying out loud, learn about it before whining about it.

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So after 5 years all they can offer is an iCloud update. :-(

Took MS longer to update...what exactly? Oh yeah, crap on-top-of crap.
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Great to see something is happening in this space! Looking forward to the release of iWork '14 later this year.

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And when would I need this since I always have my computer or Ipad with me?

must remember to call you next time I dont have mine with me, so you can do the changes for me.

 

you != the entire world

 

Its all about me, yes, its all about me.

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"WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?! WHERE'S MY ICLOUD?!"

*Apple releases it*

"THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?! THAT'S IT?!"

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iCloud is, at least to me, not a major feature & one that they'd naturally have continued to roll out. iWork 09 is seriously long in the tooth and in serious need of a MAJOR update. Frankly it's a joke that they've allowed it to languish for so long.

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post #21 of 46
Very good announcements today. Everything gets rebooted, more or less, including the trolls. Now they have new stuff to whine about or try to fit into their usual arguments.
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And when would I need this since I always have my computer or Ipad with me?

For Windows peasants, really. So they can see what they're missing.

I think that's really the big thing here. Windows still outnumbers Mac systems by a large margin so now, people have the option to use and make iWork files under Windows, maybe even Android.

It was sort of obvious people didn't quite realise how big of a deal this is judging by the fact Roger had to keep saying 'this is running in a browser'. This is like that browser-based layout site that AI had an article about a while back, except this looks more polished.

It's a great demo of how far web technology has come that they can do all of those UI effects and as Tim explained at one point, Apple was key in bringing those to the web. Of course, most people expect these things now and it's not that exciting but it's a fairly big deal. A version of iWeb would be good if it was integrated into this. Although it's not going to be so easy to integrate into 3rd party web software, it could be a great service for personal portfolio sites. You'd just drag your latest portfolio masterpiece into your layout, drag it around, pick your fonts and you're done.
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Weird how the new guy seemed to imply that they were giving Firefox and Opera the cold shoulder.  Safari, Chrome and IE only. Hmm.

 

Browser stuff was very impressive, but I don't really see how it's a big deal unless they can sort out some kind of online document sharing (maybe they're planning to, but they didn't mention it).  Don't see why a single user with an iCloud account would want to use a browser-based editing environment except in an exceptional case when they can't get to their Apple machine.

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Originally Posted by saarek View Post
iCloud is, at least to me, not a major feature…

 

You're the minority.


iWork 09 is seriously long in the tooth and in serious need of a MAJOR update. 

 

Is it, now?


But don't worry, of all people on this forum I'd never expect you to support any view of Apple that isn't akin to a sycophant

 

I know that I'm obviously doing something absolutely right, because people keep calling me both a sycophant AND a hater.


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It was sort of obvious people didn't quite realise how big of a deal this is judging by the fact Roger had to keep saying 'this is running in a browser'.


Yep. Like many things before this, the general public doesn't often grasp the big picture when Apple does something new. 

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I had google docs, but have to use it because of it's awesome collaboration ability.

They mentioned nothing about collaboration with iWork for iCloud. I hope it was just an oversight. There is little reason for me to need to work on a document over a browser unless I am collaborating with someone with it.
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You're the minority.

 

Is it, now?

 

I know that I'm obviously doing something absolutely right, because people keep calling me both a sycophant AND a hater.


Yep. Like many things before this, the general public doesn't often grasp the big picture when Apple does something new. 

Let me remind saarek that iCloud is how your music, email, notes and bookmarks sync which is extremely useful. If you mean by iCloud, documents in the cloud, them I agree that it has its limitations. I still find it useful, but it is no substitute for dropbox. There is a poor file system and too few apps that work in the cloud. I can't even sync a pdf from my computer to my iPad . Too me, that would be a more important feature than eliminating the bookcase, which I found charming.

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I can see iLife going the same way - and it is a way to get into the clouded room and into pcs to tell them how good mac life is.
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Have zero interest in saving my docs to the Cloud. Aside from the NSA considerations, I like having my stuff where I can edit it offline. Docs in iCloud are useless to me. Not everyone collaborates. In fact, I'd argue most don't.
The fact that you have your computer OR iPad with you is a reason in favor of the cloud. It is the most efficient way to work on multiple devices.
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And when would I need this since I always have my computer or Ipad with me?

 

 

It was never said whether you need iWork on these devices to use the Cloud services. If not, there is your answer. 

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It was never said whether you need iWork on these devices to use the Cloud services. If not, there is your answer. 

But I do have it on my devices. I can work on planes or anywhere even without internet access. I guess if you do not want to buy the software it makes sense. 

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They rewrote iWork in Javascript? I can't help but think those development resources would have been better spent bringing it closer to feature parity with Office.

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So much better looking than Google Docs.

It doesn't take much to do that.

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I wonder how they are going to price it. 

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This feature is the most surprising update to me. I'm hoping it can give MSOffice and GDocs a run for their money.

Heck, wasn't Microsoft supposed to release the iOS version earlier this year?  Did they ever actually come through with their promise (or threat, depending on how you perceive Microsoft)?

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Re iCloud, I wish it had the filesharing/filesystem feature set of Dropbox. I've found it to be the killer app that has changed how I and my teams go about doing our work. Were Apple to match it and integrate it into IOS, I'd love my Apple products even more.
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 I can't even sync a pdf from my computer to my iPad . 

Then you don't know what you are talking about.

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iCloud is, at least to me, not a major feature & one that they'd naturally have continued to roll out. iWork 09 is seriously long in the tooth and in serious need of a MAJOR update. Frankly it's a joke that they've allowed it to languish for so long.

But don't worry, of all people on this forum I'd never expect you to support any view of Apple that isn't akin to a sycophant

You don't get it.

Besides iCloud (not syncing, but full online creation/editing), the preview showed off a whole new UI, which will make its way to the native apps.

You're saying stuff without taking the time to watch the keynote.
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. I can't even sync a pdf from my computer to my iPad.

Then you're syncing it wrong.

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They rewrote iWork in Javascript? I can't help but think those development resources would have been better spent bringing it closer to feature parity with Office.

 

So you're ignoring that there's an updating coming this fall, then.

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So you're ignoring that there's an updating coming this fall, then.

Maybe we would have that update already (years ago) if not for this Javascript nonsense.

 

Watching that part of the keynote was embarrassing, he was doing really basic stuff like changing font sizes (welcome to the 80s) and wanting applause for it just because he did it in Javascript. This is not a programming competition to see who can do the best tricks in Javascript, this is a serious multi-national company, and it's main office suite has fallen behind.

 

And now we can see why: someone got giddy about the web as a platform and they have been rewriting everything in Javascript. If they had simply gradually improved their native code base over these last few years, we could have had 6-monthly updates to iWork and it would have put constant pressure on Microsoft. They may have been forced to release Office for iOS already. This shows the importance of having a good technical architect: you can have the best, most conscientious programmers in the world, but if the architect is making bad choices about platforms it can all just end up being a colossal waste of time.

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