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Originally Posted by ascii View Post
Maybe we would have that update already (years ago) if not for this Javascript nonsense.

 

You're stepping further into the realm of implausibility. Shame they still don't require passports.


Watching that part of the keynote was embarrassing, he was doing really basic stuff like changing font sizes (welcome to the 80s) and wanting applause for it just because he did it in Javascript. This is not a programming competition to see who can do the best tricks in Javascript, this is a serious multi-national company, and it's main office suite has fallen behind.

 

So Office documents can be created, edited, and managed, 1:1 between Office desktop and some form of Office online?


If they had simply gradually improved their native code base over these last few years, we could have had 6-monthly updates to iWork…

 

Citation?


They may have been forced to release Office for iOS already.

 

You say that as though people would want it.

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post #42 of 46
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Citation?

 

Well I can't provide a citation from an alternative reality that never happened, where they spent all their time working on the iOS and OS X iWork instead of the web one. But I can point out that freed-up developers don't sit around doing nothing, so presumably the iOS and OS X iWork would be further ahead. Would they have done a release every 6 months? We will never know now.

 

I don't know what's so controversial about my wanting Apple to work on software for iOS and OS X instead of software for the web.

 

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So Office documents can be created, edited, and managed, 1:1 between Office desktop and some form of Office online?

You say that as though people would want it (for iWork). Citation?

post #43 of 46
Originally Posted by ascii View Post

Would they have done a release every 6 months? We will never know now.

 

Given the history, it's obvious. This never would have happened in the first place.

 

I don't know what's so controversial about my wanting Apple to work on software for iOS and OS X instead of software for the web.

 

You'd ignore a valid and necessary feature for potential switchers. What makes you think the web version took four years? Who says they would have ever released a new version before now? Maybe they always wanted a web version before the next update.

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post #44 of 46
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Given the history, it's obvious. This never would have happened in the first place.

What's so implausible about them just gradually improving native iWork over the years and releasing periodic updates? That's how most software projects work. 

 

I have worked on large Javascript projects before: the language is great for writing small programs and getting them up and running quickly, but for large projects it just doesn't have the language strictness needed to keep large code bases from getting out of control. It is going to suck up a large amount of development resources on an ongoing basis just to keep this web version up and running.

 

iOS users will just use the iOS version and OS X users will use the OS X version, so the only people who will use this are PC and Android users, so that's a lot of developer effort that could be spent on Apple users being spent on non-Apple users.

 

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You'd ignore a valid and necessary feature for potential switchers. What makes you think the web version took four years? Who says they would have ever released a new version before now? Maybe they always wanted a web version before the next update.

All you need for switchers is the ability to import/export lots of different file formats. That is definitely something I would favor them working on.

post #45 of 46
Originally Posted by ascii View Post
What's so implausible about them just gradually improving native iWork over the years and releasing periodic updates?

 

There would have been an update a year, not incremental ones beyond bug fixes. That we're getting an update (and don't know its scope) doesn't yet tell us much about what they've been doing.


I have worked on large Javascript projects before: the language is great for writing small programs and getting them up and running quickly, but for large projects it just doesn't have the language strictness needed to keep large code bases from getting out of control.

 

Oh, sure. Not a single argument there. 


It is going to suck up a large amount of development resources on an ongoing basis just to keep this web version up and running.

 

I'm not sure about that, though. I can see a moderate investment being required to keep feature parity, but…


iOS users will just use the iOS version and OS X users will use the OS X version, so the only people who will use this are PC and Android users…

 

Bingo! Exactly! That's really what it's for! It's for Mac users forced to use a PC and for PC users to see what they're missing. It's a switcher tool, like iTunes. They get to actually use the software they don't have access to.


All you need for switchers is the ability to import/export lots of different file formats. That is definitely something I would favor them working on.

 

Not if they're still making up their minds. Not if they don't want to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars in buying a Mac and THEN doing this. At any rate, it seems they're listening; Office documents seem to import just fine.

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post #46 of 46
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Users will be able to quickly edit and save documents, and even do advanced tasks like adding images, cropping them, and rotating them. iWork for iCloud will also support Keynote animations for transitioning between slides.

 

Dear Apple... We need optimizers. Badly and long since. But you can now do even better. Please go see Wolfram and figure how to plug the Mathematica into our tables and sheets out there in your iCloud. Show us the cloud computing. Stop looking better than Google Docs *yawn*, do tremendously, thrillingly better.

 

Some pay for the iTunes Match, others will for the Mathematica.

We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

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