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As an OS, it's clearly a vast improvement.  Everything from Control Center to the Camera app to pretty much everything else is an improvement.  There are so many new and improved features, this is really a huge move forward.

 

As to the design, I'm sort of torn.  One minute I look at it and think, "Wow, love it."  The next minute I'm thinking, "I'm not so sure, that's a lot of white."  I can't make a judgement until I actually see it in action for real, though.

post #242 of 410

Too bad you don't get to decide whose opinions aren't welcome. I've been a die-hard Apple user since my first Mac in 1991. I've never bought another computer brand in my life. I've never owned another brand of smart phone. And iOS 7 is the first iOS that I won't be upgrading to. There are some interesting (if not essential) features, but the design this article calls "colorful," I call garish. It's utterly, utterly horrible, from the icons to the font to the ubiquitous boring white background. I have no love for the much-derided skeumorphism, but give me that anyday over constant, incessant, boring white. And their photos on apple.com present it all on a white phone! Bad idea. This OS is easily the worst looking product to emerge from Apple since I've been using their stuff.  

post #243 of 410

Well I for one love it!  An OS that is fitting for a beautiful bit of hardware (iPhone 5).  I actually like a lot of the design choices used anyway, translucency, matte looking colour, white (I have a white iPhone) and I think the new app switch will actually make people 'want' to use it more often because it just looks cool.  I know people who just don't care about app switching, they just find the app and re-open it..

 

I love the fact that the OS makes use of the full screen in Safari and elsewhere.  Sure it already does it in iOS6 but it looks more refined and used more often in iOS7.  I mean, it's still a tiny screen, we need to make full use of it, I like how everything seems to recline away leaving just what you need to see.

 

My one gripe?  I suppose I didn't expect the icon / home page basic look to change at all but ... it might have been nice for them to "think different" in this case.  I wouldn't have minded is all.  It's still fine, and the way the wallpaper looks 3D is a very cool flourish. The moving wallpaper very cool too even though it's not a new concept.  It definitely suits iOS though. ;)

 

That said, I'll really know once I get it on my phone, and especially looking forward to trying it on the Retina iPad Mini (when they finally announce the thing!).

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As an OS, it's clearly a vast improvement.  Everything from Control Center to the Camera app to pretty much everything else is an improvement.  There are so many new and improved features, this is really a huge move forward.

As to the design, I'm sort of torn.  One minute I look at it and think, "Wow, love it."  The next minute I'm thinking, "I'm not so sure, that's a lot of white."  I can't make a judgement until I actually see it in action for real, though.

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It is flat in plenty of ways.  It's certainly flatter than it used to be.  The design doesn't have to be completely flat in order to have elements of flat design.  I think you're hung up on some absurd idea that there is only one way to do things within any artistic style.  Contrary to that, there were many painters who used the realist style, the impressionist style, and the expressionist style but you can still easily tell two painters apart if you're familiar with art.

Minimal, clean and transparent come to mind before "flat".  And because of this new design, the overall look and feel becomes more dimensional, vibrant and exciting!

 

I don't see the "Pastel Colors" that some here are referring to, maybe they are confused by the colors in the wallpaper or the icons that permeate through the opaque background.

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I like a lot of it also, but it seems very much a mish-mash to me.  

 

Even the beautiful parts are worrisome however in that it seems very strongly derivative of other operating systems particularly Windows Phone.

 

Quit with the crap already.

 

 

 

It is NOTHING like it.

 

 

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Based on those standards, can we have Tallest Skil banned as well?

 

I understand that your comment was made in jest due to you being handed your ass by him on a number of occasions but, to answer your questions in all seriousness, it's because he does one other thing that both you and the other poster do not:

 

He contributes.

 

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I understand that your comment was made in jest due to you being handed your ass by him on a number of occasions but, to answer your questions in all seriousness, it's because he does one other thing that both you and the other poster do not:

 

He contributes.

 

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I don't recall the incident. Link?

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Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
I don't recall the incident. Link?


Do I really need to keep a list of the people who have vendettas against me for being proven wrong? Come off it. This is nothing but personal attacks.

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post #250 of 410
I think I got almost everything I wanted from today's announcement:
  • Maps on OSX
  • Access to 3D Maps API
  • Siri enhancements
  • iWork enhancements (coming later)
  • iWork parity between iOS and OSX
  • iWork on Windows (via iCloud)
  • More granular access to iOS in general
  • 802.11ac WiFi

The Mac Pro preview was unexpected & looks really good!

I expect to see more and a new FCPX drop soon!

I think an enhanced and cross-platform/iCloud iWorks is a direct shot across the bow of Microsoft -- "Office? Office? We don't need no stinkin' Office!"

Now, if I could just get all the new developer software to download so I can see what's there...
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Do I really need to keep a list of the people who have vendettas against me for being proven wrong? Come off it. This is nothing but personal attacks.

I didn't attack you personally. I requested the banning of a troll.

And the reason I don't like you has nothing to do with any interaction between us. I genuinely don't recall a time where you've proven me wrong and even had you done so, it wouldn't make me dislike you. The reason I don't like you is because of the way you treat everyone who says something to your disliking. I welcome disagreement. What I don't welcome is spiteful comments from grumpy, power hungry ex-mods.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
I didn't attack you personally. I requested the banning of a troll.

 

It's pathetic that you aren't even trying to listen to yourself.

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post #253 of 410
Very cool, very funky, and very user friendly... That is it Apple... Thank you...
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Parallax-tschmarallax...

Is it just me, or the Clock app's icon becomes really-really-really capable of showing us the current local time by the 7th major release of the iOS?

Is this thrillingly innovative feature opened to little 3rd-party devs?

 

We'll see what all those translucencies look like on black iPhones...  

That's a lot of processor juice to do something you could easily do by looking to the top center of the screen....

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I understand that your comment was made in jest due to you being handed your ass by him on a number of occasions but, to answer your questions in all seriousness, it's because he does one other thing that both you and the other poster do not:

He contributes.

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It's pathetic that you aren't even trying to listen to yourself.

That's because I don't troll. Also, I edited my other post. Why don't you go back and read it.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
That's because I don't troll.

 

That's hilarious.

 

 Also, I edited my other post. Why don't you go back and read it.

 

Also hilarious: snippy retorts based on the premise that I had even been around to read the post before you'd edited it, nay, before right now, coming back to the thread to read your reply that you'd edited it. Love it.

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post #258 of 410
Posters on MacRumors hate it so I have a feeling it's going to be a big hit. I mean when's the last time anyone at Apple got a standing ovation other than Steve when he came back from medical leaves.
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If I had wanted a washed out, cheap-looking plastic UI, I would have gone out and bought a Galaxy moths ago...I didn't... AND, I won't be upgrading to one either !!!!
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To put the dates on them, I had my 1st hackintosh in 2010, on an HP DV6516TX laptop. Got the iMac in Sep 2011. Self learned iOS from Aug 2012, after graduation. Became an iOS developer in a startup in Feb 2013. It's Jul 2013 now.


Did you really think that ahead, err, far back?

LOL. Amateurs. 1smile.gif I was writing Newton apps back when Apple made a pen-based tablet the size of a Galaxy Note.

No, but seriously, welcome new developers! It's a good sign when Apple has a thriving, growing developer base.

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...to the ubiquitous boring white background...

 

To think, the background is only as "boring" as the picture YOU choose to put there.

 

Apple can't help it if your life is so meaningless and "boring" you can't think of anything likeable you'd put there.

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I love the California Culture reference and the tongue-in-cheek Sea Lion chuckle. Yet, California is rich in words that don't coincide with Top Gun and thus Maverick gives people that impression.

 

They could have called it OS X Rebel and people would complain about a homage to James Dean. I was half expecting OS X Venice, OS X Malibu, OS X Yosemite, etc., after the Big Wave reference.

Interesting...  There probably are a lot of people who think they are paying homage to a Top Gun character.  If so, they will be quite surprised to learn what Apple is actually referring to!  Mavericks really is a beautiful (and appropriate) metaphor!

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Yosemite makes the cut for a future release.  Apple will have a lot of fun with this naming convention and there are so many incredible places in California that they can name their software after.

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Minimal, clean and transparent come to mind before "flat".  And because of this new design, the overall look and feel becomes more dimensional, vibrant and exciting!

I don't see the "Pastel Colors" that some here are referring to, maybe they are confused by the colors in the wallpaper or the icons that permeate through the opaque background.

I see pastels, but that's because Macs have used pastels since, I dunno, the first color Macs in the late 1980s? Windows UI's had much more saturated hues than Macs, and it was intentional.

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post #264 of 410
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Too bad you don't get to decide whose opinions aren't welcome. I've been a die-hard Apple user since my first Mac in 1991. I've never bought another computer brand in my life. I've never owned another brand of smart phone. And iOS 7 is the first iOS that I won't be upgrading to. There are some interesting (if not essential) features, but the design this article calls "colorful," I call garish. It's utterly, utterly horrible, from the icons to the font to the ubiquitous boring white background. I have no love for the much-derided skeumorphism, but give me that anyday over constant, incessant, boring white. And their photos on apple.com present it all on a white phone! Bad idea. This OS is easily the worst looking product to emerge from Apple since I've been using their stuff.  

I'll bite the bait 1wink.gif
So... What should iOS 7 look more like?

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That's hilarious.

 

 

Also hilarious: snippy retorts based on the premise that I had even been around to read the post before you'd edited it, nay, before right now, coming back to the thread to read your reply that you'd edited it. Love it.

 

Just to make it simpler (unless of course you actually want to go back through my entire post history), could you show me where in this thread I've been trolling?

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Originally Posted by djr12 View Post
Too bad you don't get to decide whose opinions aren't welcome. 


Yeah, we do.


I've been a die-hard Apple user since my first Mac in 1991.

 

Literally no one cares.


And iOS 7 is the first iOS that I won't be upgrading to.

 

Enjoy missing out willfully.


This OS is easily the worst looking product to emerge from Apple since I've been using their stuff.  

 

You clearly hit your head sometime in the interim or just weren't around for System 8. Though it could be said the pinstriping in 10.1 was, well…

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Nice to know that you just keep trolling. Also, the standard Seel O' Quabity:

 

I'm flattered by your constant attention, but also curious:  Have you ever gone a week without stooping to ad hominems?

post #268 of 410
Obviously with design being subjective people will have their opinions on the look of the UI, app icons etc. But I don't think anyone can deny that iOS 7 brings badly needed functionality to the OS like quick toggles for commonly used settings, allowing Siri to change settings, bringing notification center to the lock screen, etc. The question I have is, why didn't Scott Forstall bring us this? Presumably it's the same software engineers/designers working on iOS 7 that worked on previous versions. Why were Ive and Federighi able to deliver this but not Forstall?
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I see pastels, but that's because Macs have used pastels since, I dunno, the first color Macs in the late 1980s? Windows UI's had much more saturated hues than Macs, and it was intentional.

So all these people were whining about how iOS 7 was going to look like Windows 8. Now they're complaining because of Apple's use of pastels. I honestly don't think there's anything Apple could have done that they wouldn't have complained about.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post
I'm flattered by your constant attention, but also curious:  Have you ever gone a week without stooping to ad hominems?

 

Ever gone a post without trolling? Hint: our answers aren't the same.

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post #271 of 410
Apple needs to drop the obnoxious claims of ripoffs if they're going to engage in hypocrisy and patent trolling.
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Couldn't go to Apple.com?


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Couldn't go to Apple.com?



Buried on the design page. Not exactly obvious now is it.
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That's hilarious.

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Just to make it simpler (unless of course you actually want to go back through my entire post history), could you show me where in this thread I've been trolling?

Your silence is telling.
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Large parts of iOS 7 are very similar indeed to Windows Phone.  This is obvious.  

Bullshit.

 

Show us one persuasive example.

 

What an idiotic post.

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Based on those standards, can we have Tallest Skil banned as well?

In your dreams....

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My first observation (and a personal UI pet peeve) is that the design is not consistent about the use of icon labels, and picked the worst place to leave them out.  New, casual, or non-computer-savvy users often never use a button because they're not sure what it does.
 
For example, look below at the control center.  What's the crescent moon for?   Night display mode?  Put the device to sleep?   Hard to tell.  Is the second icon from the bottom left a timer?   That's my first guess, but perhaps it's where you set the display turn-off delay.
 
Interestingly, they did label the Air Drop and Air Play icons (presumably because most people won't recognize those icons at all).   Other windows also have labeled icons.  And of course, the icons used on bottom tab menus are labeled.  The control center is an aberration.
 

 

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I understand that your comment was made in jest due to you being handed your ass by him on a number of occasions but, to answer your questions in all seriousness, it's because he does one other thing that both you and the other poster do not:

He contributes.

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As TS would say "citation needed" lol

 

No citation needed.

 

He certainly contributes way more than your passive-aggressive pap.

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Consistency is the sign of a great UI designer.
 
My pet peeve is that they picked the worst place to leave out icon labels.  New, casual, and non-computerized users often never use a button because they're not sure what it does.
 
For example, look below at the control center.  What's the crescent moon for?   Night display mode?  Put the device to sleep?   Hard to tell.  Is the second icon from the bottom left a timer?   That's my first guess, but perhaps it's where you set the display turn-off delay.
 
Interestingly, they did label the Air Drop and Air Play icons (presumably because most people won't recognize those icons at all).   And of course, the icons used on bottom tab menus are labeled.
 

 

Um.... I could be wrong, but I understood the one in the middle -- "no icons labeled" -- as the ones you choose to put in there. Assuming you know what you're doing....

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In your dreams....

 

A man can hope can't he? 1wink.gif

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So all these people were whining about how iOS was going to look like Windows 8. Now they're complaning because of Apple's use of pastels. I honestly don't think there's anything Apple could have done that they wouldn't have complained about.

Remember this little lesson I've learned 'people love to complain'. I saw a beautifully done OS today. Sure they borrowed a bit from here and a bit from there and I don't see anything wrong with that. Good ideas are meant to be shared.
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