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Apple on Monday offered an uncharacteristic sneak peek of its forthcoming Mac Pro, which after years of being largely ignored has received a radical new design crammed with state-of-the-art hardware technology.

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The most striking feature of the new Mac Pro is the cylindrical chassis wrapped in a black aluminum shell. Adding to the unique design is the size of the unit, which measures only 9.9-inches tall with a diameter of 6.6-inches.The new Mac Pro is one-eighth the volume of the outgoing tower style model.

Past the aesthetics lies a completely reimagined interior. All major components and boards in the Mac Pro are mounted to a triangular heat sink, which Apple is calling the "unified thermal core." According to the company, the use of the extruded aluminum structure was key in achieving such a compact design.

Heat is conducted away from the CPUs and GPUs and dispersed evenly across the surface of the thermal core. This allows for a single fan, situated at the top of the unit, to suck air up through an intake at the bottom of the computer, with exhaust flowing out vertically above the cylinder.

Thermal
Screenshot of thermal core structure animation.


As for silicon, Apple chose to stick with Intel's Xeon family of processors, though the next-generation Mac Pro will get next-generation E5 chipsets. Configurations will reportedly be capped at 12 cores, providing enough horsepower to double the floating-point performance of existing models. Along with the new Xeon boards comes support for PCI Express gen 3, which boasts bandwidth up to 40GBps, with 1.25GBps reads and 1.0GBps writes depending on the component loadout.

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Mac Pro's configured SSD storage.


In opting for a faster PCIe flash storage solution, which is clocked at 1250MB/s compared to SATA flash's 500MB/s and SATA HDD's 110MB/s, Apple has done away with the drive bays that made swapping HDDs so easy. The company may be hoping Thunderbolt 2-enabled external drives will pick up the slack, but some may be disappointed to see this useful feature go.

On the memory side, Apple is using four-channel ECC DDR3 modules running at 1866 MHz, which affords bandwidth up to 60GB/s. This also doubles the current Mac Pro's capabilities.

Memory


Graphics are handled by standard dual workstation-class AMD FirePro GPUs with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM, which puts up to 70 teraflops of computing power on tap. Current Mac Pros perform at 2.7 teraflops.

Expansion has also been greatly enhanced, with a whopping six Thunderbolt 2 ports, four USB 3.0 ports, two Gigabit Ethernet ports, HDMI 1.4 and audio in/out. Thunderbolt 2 is the main draw here, with the protocol able to support 20Gbps throughput, up to six daisy-chained peripherals per port and backward compatibility with current Thunderbolt hardware. Intel, which developed the I/O standard, recently revealed the official specs of Thunderbolt 2 last week.

While the hardware specs are for the prototype Mac Pro, the production model is expected to be similar if not identical when it sees release this fall.

In previewing the professional-level computer, a rarity for Apple, it is assumed the company wanted to assuage concerns from some pro users who felt neglected after the company built multiple iMac and Mac mini refreshes without offering any major boost to the Mac Pro.
post #2 of 1290
Details are wrong in several places about the ports.

There are zero Firewire 800 ports, not two as stated in the article.
There are four USB 3 ports; the article forgot to mention them.
There are two Ethernet ports; the article is vague on this.
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This is just such a futuristic marvel that has the potential to change the way Pros work.

 

Of course, most of them are retarded and unable to evolve, it's a shame they will be left behind. Same thing with keyboards and mouses, diskette and cd rom, you name it.

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The level of stupid at Apple these days is overwhelming.

 

That has to be the worst possible design for a pro machine that I could imagine.  Pros don't want cutesy cylinders, they want EXPANSION.  Things like slots, lots of RAM slots, lots of PCI Express slots, and multiple hard drive bays, at least 4 of them.  Pros still need optical drives.  Pros want to be able to upgrade their graphics cards.  Pros want multiple processors.

 

Think about what they could have done with this in the existing case:  Dual 12 core processors.  Up to 128GB RAM.  2 solid state drives AND 4 hard drives.  And two Blu-Ray drives.  And 4 PCI Express slots.

 

And the design is terrible too.  This thing looks like a black aluminum can.  Oh, wait, that's what it is.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Fields View Post
There are zero Firewire 800 ports, not two as stated in the article.
There are two Ethernet ports; the article is vague on this.

 

The article's vague because its author thinks Ethernet is FireWire 800. lol.gif

 

Originally Posted by DarkVader View Post
That has to be the worst possible design for a pro machine that I could imagine.

 

This proves that Apple has done 100% the right thing.

 

Pros don't want cutesy cylinders, they want EXPANSION.

 

GUESS WHAT THE CYLINDER CAN DO, KIDDO.


Pros still need optical drives.

 

That's so effing stupid.

 

Pros want multiple processors.

 

Pros want a lot of cores. Multiple processors are just a means to that end. You'd know that if you actually knew anything.

 

Also? There are no single-chip processors with 12 cores from any manufacturer. Not that I can find, anyway. Not Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell.


Think about what they could have done with this in the existing case: 

 

Yeah, they could have made it a worthless update that didn't actually innovate anything and for which they would have been mocked and derided because it was "late".

 

Instead they punched people like you in the metaphorical face and told you to shut up. This is the future. Deal with it.


Edited by Tallest Skil - 6/10/13 at 4:45pm
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expansion... for the most part, having local HDDs will evolve back to Thunderbolt expansion chassis... this shrinks the chassis,the power supply, and the air/cooling requirements of the base unit... in the Extreme Programming parlance... YAGNI (you aren't going to need (all of) it).
Better to expand as needed.

Also, In a NAS/SAN world, it makes more sense to have one data farm than lots of local storage, so this actually fares well in the corp office environment. For small home pro users, it's a bit of redundancy, but the pay me now (for a larger PS, cooling, chaotic) vs pay me later (thunderbolt chassis, expansion disks, 2nd PS for this unit) pay off is likely in the long run more beneficial for the latter case (net TCO lower, more flexibility, and easier transitioning of a faster compute engine).

PCI board expansion is the biggest thing missing I think, but I'm not in that market, and I don't know if thunderbolt expansion chassis devices will fill the PCI board niche.

Also not noted here is inbox expansion. 'up to 12 cores' may sound nice, but is looks from the outside, it's a BTO option, not a aftermarket add-in card. My guess it's memory and flash disk expansion only, and everything else is soldered on at the (US) factory...

I think it's a great design, consistent with Apple's hardware vision... not necessarily great for your 'old school' iron heads.
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This is just such a futuristic marvel that has the potential to change the way Pros work.

 

Of course, most of them are retarded and unable to evolve, it's a shame they will be left behind. Same thing with keyboards and mouses, diskette and cd rom, you name it.


I can't imagine why you can't get pros to agree with you. 

 

And keyboards?  Really?

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Anyone remember the Cube? Hopefully they don't saddle this with a ridiculous price like they did to the cube (RIP). Price for design is not what pros want: they want power. If they premium charge this because of their aesthetic design they are going to see poor sales-through indeed.
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The more I read about this new Mac Pro, the more I'm liking it. Sure, there are certain unanswered questions about the ability to upgrade components, but all-in-all, Apple once again paves its own path and throws out the old way of thinking. Technology has advanced so much since the last Mac Pro that one can get twice the horsepower of their fastest Mac Pro in a package that's one-eighth the volume, and make it quieter on top of that. Great piece of engineering.

Thanks to Thunderbolt, it's essentially a fully configurable machine that can be tailored to any kind of power user and not worry about suffering a performance hit with external devices.

I'm looking forward to the reviews of this bad-boy when the machine starts shipping. I hope the professional community embraces this system. I think Apple must have done some kind of research into this area before heading off on such a radical redesign.
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When I read people's posts complaining about this machine, I envision that those people look like this:

 

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Originally Posted by Conrail View Post
And keyboards?  Really?

 

You didn't notice a hesitance to move to that newfangled computer input system back in '77?

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When I read people's posts complaining about this machine, I envision that those people look like this:

 


Starting with DarkVader.  Who are the other two??  :)

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When I read people's posts complaining about this machine, I envision that those people look like this:

 


I think of people like DarkVader more like this:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2iqzrrm.jpg
 

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Originally Posted by DarkVader View Post

The level of stupid at Apple these days is overwhelming.

 

That has to be the worst possible design for a pro machine that I could imagine.  Pros don't want cutesy cylinders, they want EXPANSION.  Things like slots, lots of RAM slots, lots of PCI Express slots, and multiple hard drive bays, at least 4 of them.  Pros still need optical drives.  Pros want to be able to upgrade their graphics cards.  Pros want multiple processors.

 

Think about what they could have done with this in the existing case:  Dual 12 core processors.  Up to 128GB RAM.  2 solid state drives AND 4 hard drives.  And two Blu-Ray drives.  And 4 PCI Express slots.

 

And the design is terrible too.  This thing looks like a black aluminum can.  Oh, wait, that's what it is.

 

I used to think that way too, but not anymore.

 

Our existing Pro has a slot into which we can drop an upgraded video card. We never have. We bought the best the machine could support at the time and have never changed it.

 

We already have an external Blu-Ray drive (for the two or three times a year we use it) so that's not an issue.

 

Thunderbolt pretty much solves the last of the cases we had for slots. The Blackmagic Design cards we use for HD-SDI I/O are now available in Thunderbolt versions, as is our Pro Tools controller. There may be a brief awkward period as manufacturers migrate from cards to outboard devices, but it's clear that's the direction things are going.

 

Storage is via outboard RAID, so lots of slot for conventional drives are no longer necessary. Besides, this thing completely dumps SATA in favor of a storage system that links directly to the PCIe bus. That's why it's so freakin' fast.

 

The design does LOOK goofy, but it allows for the most ingenious cooling system ever. It's hard to argue just because it ain't pretty.

 

If an old fart like me can adapt, or more accurately recognize the way the industry is going, you can too! 1smile.gif

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The level of stupid at Apple these days is overwhelming.

 

That has to be the worst possible design for a pro machine that I could imagine.  Pros don't want cutesy cylinders, they want EXPANSION.  Things like slots, lots of RAM slots, lots of PCI Express slots, and multiple hard drive bays, at least 4 of them.  Pros still need optical drives.  Pros want to be able to upgrade their graphics cards.  Pros want multiple processors.

 

Think about what they could have done with this in the existing case:  Dual 12 core processors.  Up to 128GB RAM.  2 solid state drives AND 4 hard drives.  And two Blu-Ray drives.  And 4 PCI Express slots.

 

And the design is terrible too.  This thing looks like a black aluminum can.  Oh, wait, that's what it is.

I'm a computer pro.

 

The fastest computer I physically worked on had the same basic design...  the Cray XMP.   circular, custom aluminum heatsink in the center, power supply at the bottom, pull through cooling. 

 

The most expansible computer I worked on... IBM ZSeries... you had to add a chassis or 10, but the high speed FICON cabling made that a snap.  I could connect as many disks and tape drives as I wanted, and interconnect with other Zseries computers, comm devices... pretty easy.

 

Are you saying those aren't professional computing platforms because you can't put everything in single rectangular box?

 

Is there anything in this design that precludes what you listed above from being connected in series via a Thunderbolt cable?  Including daisy chaining a second Mac Pro for additional CPU cores, memory, etc.   Specifically on the hard drives... they don't want lots of spindles... they want lots of bytes delivered with lots of speed.

 

Memory is likely the gating factor here. That I agree... but the line between VM on Flash and RAM is getting pretty small with PCIe based local Flash Drives.   I'll give Apple the benefit of the doubt here until the Lunch and Learn tomorrow at least.

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Four of us huddled around a monitor drooling over this thing on Apple's web site. One asks, "I wonder how much it costs?" Three others mumble in unison, "Who cares?"

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It's obvious where Apple is headed with this. By having so many Thunderbolt ports (and the faster versions) they expect that upgrading will be done externally. The only thing you won't be able to change is the processor and internal SSD (maybe RAM). Everything else you need (optical drives, hard drives, SSD's, graphics cards...) can be connected by Thunderbolt.

 

I really wonder how Apple will price this. Although it looks radical, it should actually be easy to manufacture. And by eliminating upgrades internally they don't need to worry about slots, bays or other mechanical pieces (they could solder everything if they wanted). They also don't have to design in a much larger power supply to account for extra devices people might add. Even building the video cards in (instead of slot mounting) should reduce costs.

 

Although Apple doesn't sell things for "bargain" prices, I think this new Pro will offer very good performance for the $$$ when compared to previous versions.

 

I think I just found a new machine for my wife. :)

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Originally Posted by DarkVader View Post

The level of stupid at Apple these days is overwhelming.

 

That has to be the worst possible design for a pro machine that I could imagine.  Pros don't want cutesy cylinders, they want EXPANSION.  Things like slots, lots of RAM slots, lots of PCI Express slots, and multiple hard drive bays, at least 4 of them.  Pros still need optical drives.  Pros want to be able to upgrade their graphics cards.  Pros want multiple processors.

 

Think about what they could have done with this in the existing case:  Dual 12 core processors.  Up to 128GB RAM.  2 solid state drives AND 4 hard drives.  And two Blu-Ray drives.  And 4 PCI Express slots.

 

And the design is terrible too.  This thing looks like a black aluminum can.  Oh, wait, that's what it is.

Wow. You must be a real professional, (teleported from 1999). If you had any brains, you'd be embarrassed by your own ignorance of todays computer technology.

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When I read people's posts complaining about this machine, I envision that those people look like this:

 

 

"So easy, a DarkVader can use it!"

 

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This design evokes the Cube, which also looked very cool in its day. Hopefully this super cylinder will be affordably priced. It looks cool. Sure, you can't expand certain aspects, but that has an easy solution: when its capabilities feel outdated in a few years, you can simply buy a new one. Nothing Apple makes is designed to stay current and updatable for more than two years anyway. Heck, nothing that any company makes in this day and age lasts very long. Look at the iPhone 4S. It's brand new today but it won't even run iOS 7. So you'll buy a new phone just as you'll buy a new computer, every 2 years. Win win for Apple. And also for you it's a win as long as you are happy with what you buy and you don't want to change its internals.

This is no longer the era of "user upgradable" anything. Not iPhones. Not iMacs. Not Mac Pros.
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With the new mac pro and redesigned ios it feels like Apple are dragging the entire computer industry along by the vacuum they create as they speed into the future.

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With the new mac pro and redesigned ios it feels like Apple are dragging the entire computer industry along by the vacuum they create as they speed into the future.

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Originally Posted by AnalogJack View Post
With the new mac pro and redesigned ios it feels like Apple are dragging the entire computer industry along by the vacuum they create as they speed into the future.

 

Going on 37 years now, yeah. Oh, sure, occasionally someone being dragged will manage to stand up long enough to offer Apple a new, slightly more supportive pair of sneakers, but after they get 'em laced up it's back to the ol' ball and chain.

 

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Are you calling the new Mac Pro a vacuum cleaner ... ? 1biggrin.gif
 

I'll bet you one thing, though: the new model won't sound as much like one as all of the old ones.

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This design evokes the Cube, which also looked very cool in its day. Hopefully this super cylinder will be affordably priced. It looks cool. Sure, you can't expand certain aspects, but that has an easy solution: when its capabilities feel outdated in a few years, you can simply buy a new one. Nothing Apple makes is designed to stay current and updatable for more than two years anyway. Heck, nothing that any company makes in this day and age lasts very long. Look at the iPhone 4S. It's brand new today but it won't even run iOS 7. So you'll buy a new phone just as you'll buy a new computer, every 2 years. Win win for Apple. And also for you it's a win as long as you are happy with what you buy and you don't want to change its internals.

This is no longer the era of "user upgradable" anything. Not iPhones. Not iMacs. Not Mac Pros.

The cube was a consumer product.  The Mac Pro is not.  Also, tech has change completely since the cube days.  Double the horsepower of an old high-end Mac Pro in 1/8th the volume?  That's a big deal.

As far as iOS 7 not running on an iPhone 4s, state your proof?  I just looked it up and could not find anything about that.  I found a handful of items not working (fully) on an original iPhone 4, but not the 4s.

Where's your proof?

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This is just such a futuristic marvel that has the potential to change the way Pros work.

Of course, most of them are retarded and unable to evolve, it's a shame they will be left behind. Same thing with keyboards and mouses, diskette and cd rom, you name it.

Best post! 1smile.gif bingo!
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Look at the iPhone 4S. It's brand new today but it won't even run iOS 7.

 

Small error, but iOS 7 is compatible with the 4 and 4S...

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Originally Posted by 512ke View Post
Look at the iPhone 4S. It's brand new today but it won't even run iOS 7.

 

Absolute lies. Even the iPhone 4 runs iOS 7. Even the iPad 2 runs iOS 7. 

 

 

Don't just SAY things.

 

Interestingly, the 4th-gen iPod touch won't run it, even though it too has an A4. Apple discontinued it "just in time", it seems…

Interestingly, the FIRST GEN IPAD CAN'T RUN IOS 6, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SAME HARDWARE AS THE IPHONE 4 with half the RAM.

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The level of stupid at Apple these days is overwhelming.

That has to be the worst possible design for a pro machine that I could imagine.  Pros don't want cutesy cylinders, they want EXPANSION.  Things like slots, lots of RAM slots, lots of PCI Express slots, and multiple hard drive bays, at least 4 of them.  Pros still need optical drives.  Pros want to be able to upgrade their graphics cards.  Pros want multiple processors.

Think about what they could have done with this in the existing case:  Dual 12 core processors.  Up to 128GB RAM.  2 solid state drives AND 4 hard drives.  And two Blu-Ray drives.  And 4 PCI Express slots.

And the design is terrible too.  This thing looks like a black aluminum can.  Oh, wait, that's what it is.

Ugh!
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I love how (predictably) the comments on this thing are split between people who love it and think it's perfect, and people who hate it and think it's a disaster. 

 

The reality is that it's probably going to land somewhere in between.

 

My personal preference would have been a more standard PC-Style box with easy upgradeability.  But I can that this appears to be a marvel of packaging, etc.  I can respect that.

 

I also expect Apple to release some sort of RAID-capable external harddrive enclosure that will connect via Thunderbolt 2 to this thing -- perhaps an enclosure that somehow aesthetically complements the Mac Pro's body.  Regardless of silly arguments about optical drives, etc., it is undisputed that pros who use Macs for editing and creating large amounts of HD media absolutely NEED access to high-capacity disk-based harddrives.  Apple knows this, and that's why I predict a separate multi-harddrive enclosure.

 

I agree that pros who need optical drives can just buy an external one.  Nobody is going to lose sleep over that.

 

The biggest issue I see is the lack of video card expandability.  For certain professionals, this MAY be a deal breaker.  That said, the pace of Video card improvement over the last 5 or so years has slowed considerably to the point this may not be an issue.  My overriding thought, however, is that this thing will not have the lastingness of the older Mac Pros.  There are still many Mac Pros in service that were originally purchased 6+ years ago.  They've had some ram added, and perhaps a faster video card added, but they still hum along.

 

I don't see this thing have the same lasting power.  That said, perhaps this was part of Apple's intent -- sell a new Mac Pro to a company every 5 years instead of every 8 years.  Who knows.

 

But the one thing that bugs me is simply that I don't see any real benefit to the cylinder shape (other than some cooling perks).  With the Macbook Air, for example, there is a huge benefit to having a super lightweight, super thing laptop.  Therefore, purchasers of the device (myself included) are far more willing to overlook the lack of upgradeability and other features.  However, with the Mac Pro, I have never heard anyone clamoring for a smaller footprint, or for less expandability. 

 

I guess what I am getting at is taht this new design doesn't seem to push any technological boundaries or efficiencies in exchange for it's decreased functionality.  I think it will do just fine, but at the same time it will alienate a few Mac Pro users here and there.

 

Me personally?  I prefer windows-based PCs for my work that I can build myself and upgrade accordingly.  For all my media and home computing needs, I love Apple.  And I think this new Mac Pro is only solidifying Apple as a consumer-focused company.  But hopefully time will determine that I am wrong.

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I hope some of the supposed experts replying here, understand the expandability of thunderbolt ports. Including, external PCI enclosures, with any PCI device you want to throw in there.
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I hope some of the supposed experts replying here, understand the expandability of thunderbolt ports. Including, external PCI enclosures, with any PCI device you want to throw in there.

 

I think everyone in here understands that (or they do now).

 

But I guess the bigger question that I was raising was simply, "what's the point?"

 

I have never heard a professional say the Mac Pro was too large.  What is great about a small cylinder shape that it outweights the annoyance of having a gazillion external drives and cables?

 

Maybe if this thing was a true revolution in performance I might be more inclined to say, "yeah, it's worth it."  But it's going to use standard, off the shelf Haswell processors that can be found on any other workstation computer.  It was like the designers said "hehe, yeah, a small cylinder looks really cool!!"  And then when someone from engineering said, "but most professional users don't really care about the shape of the machine," the designers just said, "well let them add external drives!!!"

 

Again, it's probably going to be a great machine.  It's much easier to see the utility when Apple reduces the size of Macbooks, ipads, etc.  I just don't see what the huge advantage is of making this thing so tiny that it lacks built-in features that many pros need and rely on.

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Apparently Apple threw out the rule book into the same trash can they designed the new Mac Pro after.

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My personal preference would have been a more standard PC-Style box with easy upgradeability.  But I can that this appears to be a marvel of packaging, etc.  I can respect that.

 

I am going to go out on a limb and suggest professionals looking for a workstation don't have "marvel of packaging" high on their list of wanted features. The design of this machine was not done to meet the needs of professionals. It was done for Apple's need to minimize upgradeability to keep people buying new machines every few years.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the design is cool and I think they will probably sell a lot of them. Lets face it, there are a lot of professional Apple users that will buy whatever Apple throws at them and learn to deal with any limitations it may have. From a business standpoint, I think it is an amazing design. But from a professional user standpoint, it is horrible.

 

I am rather curious how long Apple can keep this kind of thing going and how long Apple users will keep accepting it? Maybe indefinitely I suppose. Time will tell.

 

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post #35 of 1290
Apple should make a Mac Pro mini. Quiet and cheaper.
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Four of us huddled around a monitor drooling over this thing on Apple's web site. One asks, "I wonder how much it costs?" Three others mumble in unison, "Who cares?"

 

It looks like an advanced rocket system. Fantastic.

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I hope we see a new Mac Pro design at next years WWDC.  Dual CPUs, 8 ram slots, proper hard drive bays, card slots, and an option for an optical drive.  

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Apparently Apple threw out the rule book into the same trash can they designed the new Mac Pro after.

 

If you don't like it, you have the choice not to order it. Personally, I think it looks fantastic and is specced up the yin yang.

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Originally Posted by AppeX View Post
Apple should make a Mac Pro mini. Quiet and cheaper.

 

Who says this isn't cheap? Who says this isn't quiet? Why would there be a "Pro mini" when the iMac exists? Why would there be another mini anything when the Mac Mini exists?

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It looks like a mini Cray supercomputer. How cool is that? Do those who criticize the design think that the Cray was ugly?
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