Originally Posted by drblank
I'm wondering if Thunderbolt 2 will help with the PCI card slot issue? Avid will work on their video editor, but Open CL for Pro Tools? ProTools doesn't really tax the GPU's at all, ProTools native is CPU intensive since its audio, not video.
Modern GPU's can do signal processing so it isn't impossible for ProTool to leverage the GPU in some manner.
I'm just wondering what the comparison is going to be running ProTools native vs ProTools HDX on a card slot with the new MacPro. With the ProTools PCI cards, it to help run more tracks and more plug-ins, but the majority of recording studios don't use that much in terms of number of tracks and plug-ins to really warrant buying PCI cards vs. Native.
This is especially the case when you have many cores available in the CPU chip.
I think ultimately Avid might lose a lot of PCI card business since the CPU performance can do what most recording studios really need. It's just changing the mentality of the average recording studio not to use PCI DAWS and go with ProTools Native instead, thus saving a LOT of money. Trust me, this is going to take a little while for many recording studios to change their setups since they are predominately based on PCI cards used in Mac Pros.
This has been pretty much the history of computing, as each generation of hardware gets more powerful the need for special hardware decreases.
For those still stuck in the DYI PC box building.
OK who said anything about DIY PC box building?
that started going on in the 80's and I remember some of my customers thought they could save some money and build their own PCs, they learned quickly that it was a mistake. Of all of the people that were building their own PCs, most of them have stopped for usually two reasons. They use laptops instead or they switched to a Mac. yeah, people still do it, but DYI leads to a lot of headaches.
Headaches? That really depends upon how much intelligence you put into building the machine. In any event if you are running Linux you either do your due diligence or suffer the headaches of unsupported hardware.
I've got years of experience watching people fail miserably doing it. I actually know of a company that was a chip mfg that was trying to save money and they built their own PCs, and since the place with loaded with engineers, they thought they could save money. Well, what happened is they kept having problems hardware/software and instead of an engineer that gets paid $100+K a year to design chips, they were huddled over some piece of shit PC tearing it apart being a PC technician that would normally get paid $15 an hour to swap out a drive, reinstall the OS, etc.
See my comment about intelligence, having a degree and even an engineering job does not indicate intelligence.
The company eventually sold off to another company. Moral of the story, don't try to play Mr. PC and build your own PCs. They end up being a freaking hobby rather than a useful tool.
That depends upon the application. The first course of action should always be to put an off the shelf machine into the project but sometimes that doesn't work.
The quality of the components like RAM, HDD on the open market aren't always as consistent as you might think. TIme is money and if you normally get paid $50 to $100 an hour, don't try to do something that would normally require $15 an hour person.
Now this is garbage! Setting up a computing platform for a specific task is hardly a job for the run of the mill technician. maybe a bunch of generic office support PC's but if you are putting hardware together for a challenging task it is best to have an engineer or two involved. Engineers by the way that know what they are doing.
Doesn't make sense unless it's just a hobby and you don't mind lowering yourself. Heck, people that assemble PCs in Asia get paid probably around $.50 an hour.
Even that is garbage, the wage rate in many parts of china is up to around 7-8 dollars an hour. You really need to look into some of your beliefs here.
If a company is willing to pay $100 an hour to hobble together some DYI, I'll show you a company that makes bad business decisions and will likely go out of business because they are wasting money.
I suspect you don't have a clue why a company would build up PC hardware. Often it is done to support very specific needs and not the office environment.
In any event I'm not sure what got you off on this tangent. The desire for PCI-Express slots suggested in my post has nothing to do with building your own PC. Rather it is about being able to configure a PC for a specific usage. That is a far cry from making a bad business decision. Rather it is about leveraging consumer grade hardware to the advantage for your business. As i've stated many times before in these forums, Apples lack of economical hardware with PCI expansion means that Macs can never be used in this market. This is really a shame as Mac OS has lots of advantages to offer.