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You are one of those irrational fandroids that should be thrown into a trash can with your "similar" stuff and "almost" truth statements.

Since when is that thing at 45º like flyover?

Fucking trolls, go vomit somewhere else.

You clearly know nothing about this. You live in your Apple world with your head in the sand.
Google maps for desktop which Apple doesn't have, is a recent beta that added a limited 45 degree 3D function.
Google earth for android has had the full every angle you want for months. This was demonstrated at a Google event before Apple maps was released. Nice try tho.

Why don't you post 3D shots of the Rose Bowl, Hoover Dam, and the Palace of Versailles, for a start... Using any current or beta Google Maps/Earth (whatever), running on the desktop, web or mobile... Then, let's compare with current iOS 6 running on an iPad 4 .
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post #42 of 130
Google maps is getting better and better. I don't see why all the hate towards google.
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Why don't you post 3D shots of the Rose Bowl, Hoover Dam, and the Palace of Versailles, for a start... Using any current or beta Google Maps/Earth (whatever), running on the desktop, web or mobile... Then, let's compare with current iOS 6 running on an iPad 4 .

 

I was never arguing which one is better at 3D. It's clearly Apple Maps that's better. I wish Google got as much crap as Apple did so that they'd spend the time perfecting each city.

 

My original point was only that there is no way can anyone say Google maps copied Apple maps' vector based system or 3D buildings. It's BS. Google maps had user generated buildings for 5 years now and announced auto generated buildings at the same time as Apple.

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I don't see why all the hate towards google.

 

Really?

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post #45 of 130
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You're head isn't that deeply buried in the sand is it?

 

Google announced the 'flyover' before apple did (http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=22411)

Google has had vector based maps since 2010 (http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2010/12/07/google-maps-5-0-for-android-goes-vector-for-faster-loading-zoom/)

 

You guys are all insane.

You may be the insane one.  Why did they just announce adding vector for android unless they went backwards and decided to return. And they announced flyover  days before Apple's announcement after all of the leaks said what Apple was going to announce.  Notice how long it took to copy it.  They were just trying to divert attention.

 

Actually they were holding Apple, who helped them improve their mobile maps, back by limiting them to tile based maps.  Google did not have vectors as a part of the OS until 6 months after Apple's maps were released.  Their developers were being limited just like Apple was.     http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/12/android-apps-get-vector-maps/


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Yes really?

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You may be the insane one.  Why did they just announce adding vector for android unless they went backwards and decided to return. And they announced flyover  days before Apple's announcement after all of the leaks said what Apple was going to announce.  Notice how long it took to copy it.  They were just trying to divert attention.

 

They didn't just announced vector based maps for android. They did that 3 years ago and it's been that way ever since. You must be confusing it for the desktop version.

post #48 of 130

Shalom, Waze.

 

I was willing to share my geographic location to contribute to more complete traffic data, but when it's going to be used to bombard me with ads, you can take your app and shove it!

 

And seeing how Google was all too happy to participate in the PRISM program, I certainly don't want to make it so easy to be tracked by the government.  Tyranny is upon us.  Bush started it and Obama has failed to set us free.

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Google:  taking the "innovation" page from Microsoft by simply purchasing developers. Wooooooooooo, impressive.

 

You do know most companies have done this, including Apple.

Unlike most drama queens I won't be deleting the app off my phone. If further down the line the app changes into something terrible though I will be.

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 Salvador Dali renders ....

+1.

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Originally Posted by steelraven View Post

Google maps is getting better and better. I don't see why all the hate towards google.

Nice sarcasm there! lol.gif

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He is serious. Apple introduced vector maps and 3D flyovers. A year later, Google introduced vector maps and airborne flyovers...

 

Vector maps were on android long before Apple introduce it.  Not to be confuse with the old map apps on iOS, which was lagging a lot of new map features already available on Android.

 

Regarding there 3D flyover, are they scanning the ground with planes?  How does Google do it?   That could be something Apple did first indeed.

post #53 of 130

Make sure you delete your account before you get rid of your Waze app.

 

When you request an account deletion, they ask you why you want to leave, and I made it clear that the Google acquisition disgusted me.

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Very very bad news
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You do know most companies have done this, including Apple.

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No way, really?  ZOMG!!!!!1! 

 

Google has really been making a rather large commitment to it lately though by purchasing huge blocks of IP and patents while also gobbling up smaller companies at the same time they have eliminated the engineering 20% project policy and are killing off a large number of home grown Labs projects.  Come now, surely all of this shift in direction at el Goog hasn't escaped you has it? 

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That was certainly worth a laugh!  About the only devastation caused by Apple Maps would be to renditions of bridges and roads!

You mean like the much worse implementation Google released last month?  LOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/22/googles-new-3d-maps-destroy-manhattan-in-the-wake-of-apples-flyover

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Same.

Obviously, Google Maps isn't nearly as good as the shills would have one believe otherwise the blatant copying of Apple Maps in the latest Google Maps Beta and the purchase of Waze would be unnecessary.

Mercedes updates even the S Class. And you're a fool if you think that Google maps is a copy of Apple maps since the Apple version is the copy.
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You clearly know nothing about this. You live in your Apple world with your head in the sand.

Google maps for desktop which Apple doesn't have, is a recent beta that added a limited 45 degree 3D function.

Google earth for android has had the full every angle you want for months. This was demonstrated at a Google event before Apple maps was released. Nice try tho.

 

Well, Apple also does have a desktop 3d map beta because its the new OS-X. It went beta yesterday. btw Iove there new integration of the desktop map with the mobile map. Very well done imo.

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It's not a defensive move, it's offensive, and blatantly so. Google does not need waze, certainly not for that price. Google are biters and scratchers. They are this way to make up for their lack of originality, and their insecurity after failing time and time again to come up with true innovations ala Apple. They throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. That's not creativity. When they fail, they use their financial recourses and internet dominance to strong arm others. I don't think the paid trolls and journalists are coming only from samsung. It's a style of management that began with schmitt, and which tweedle dee and tweedle dum are dutifully perpetuating. Do no evil my ass.

The do no evil is basically, Don't look over here, theres nothing to see.  We would never do evil.

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They only made it available to developers 6 months after apple. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/22/googles-new-3d-maps-destroy-manhattan-in-the-wake-of-apples-flyover.

I'm not convinced they actually implemented either. This is the only article that speaks of it anywhere on the internet and it says it is to get it not that it was ever released.  They even removed all mention of the features for each version.  

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Google has been collecting traffic data for years.  I'm interested to see what comes from this acquisition.

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They only made it available to developers 6 months after apple. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/22/googles-new-3d-maps-destroy-manhattan-in-the-wake-of-apples-flyover

I'm not convinced they actually implemented either. This is the only article that speaks of it anywhere on the internet and it says it is to get it not that it was ever released.  They even removed all mention of the features for each version.  

 

Why are you comparing desktop to mobile? Stop. You're wrong.

From last summer when it was releasedhttp://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/06/take-flight-through-new-3d-cities-on.html

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Deleted, like so many of us have done.

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Well, Apple also does have a desktop 3d map beta because its the new OS-X. It went beta yesterday. btw Iove there new integration of the desktop map with the mobile map. Very well done imo.

You call that integration bwahahaha. sending directions to your phone manually is 2010 and it was called chrome to phone.

How google maps does it.

I search for a new place on google maps or google search, seconds later its in google now with directions. Bike, walking, driving, public transportation, no need to think about it. Also if I open the maps app it remembers the search I did.
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The hatred for google on this site is amazing, it brings me such joy to see so many crazies get but hurt over a public company.

There is no difference between apple and google. Both are in it to make money, both have admirable and discouraging qualities.

I love my ipad and my apple tv and I love my android phone and google services.

Google makes the best software/service package in the known universe. The sooner you accept that the better your life will be.
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Oh well, another independent community assimilated by the Borg mothership.  I've used Waze off and on, and never thought much of it one way or another.  If anything, Google's traffic data is good for the most part (with occasional inaccurate data), but it looks like they're trying to bump up the accuracy (and of course, gather a new group of users to track). 

 

While I like Apple Maps' directions and basic functionality (the vector maps scale much better than the tiled maps), the traffic data is one glaring weakness compared to Google Maps.  While it's accurate, there's just no granularity to the information that the Maps app displays.  It will display a red line for gridlocked conditions and warning signs for construction and accidents, but nothing to show slowing conditions or other less-than-optimal traffic flow.  Google Maps does go to the opposite extreme by showing yellow and red lines everywhere for free flowing local streets that just happened to have low speed limits and a lot of intersections.  Neither solution is ideal, so I just stick with drive-time estimates from 511.org. 
 

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Google has been collecting traffic data for years.  I'm interested to see what comes from this acquisition.

It's the realtime updates (user contributed?) about stoppages, delays etc. that seemed to be Waze's forte.

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The hatred for google on this site is amazing, it brings me such joy to see so many crazies get but hurt over a public company.

There is no difference between apple and google. Both are in it to make money, both have admirable and discouraging qualities.

I love my ipad and my apple tv and I love my android phone and google services.

Google makes the best software/service package in the known universe. The sooner you accept that the better your life will be.

Laughably untrue. Android is a hobbyist joke.

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Oh well, another independent community assimilated by the Borg mothership.  I've used Waze off and on, and never thought much of it one way or another.  If anything, Google's traffic data is good for the most part (with occasional inaccurate data), but it looks like they're trying to bump up the accuracy (and of course, gather a new group of users to track). 

 

While I like Apple Maps' directions and basic functionality (the vector maps scale much better than the tiled maps), the traffic data is one glaring weakness compared to Google Maps.  While it's accurate, there's just no granularity to the information that the Maps app displays.  It will display a red line for gridlocked conditions and warning signs for construction and accidents, but nothing to show slowing conditions or other less-than-optimal traffic flow.  Google Maps does go to the opposite extreme by showing yellow and red lines everywhere for free flowing local streets that just happened to have low speed limits and a lot of intersections.  Neither solution is ideal, so I just stick with drive-time estimates from 511.org. 
 

Re: "granularity"? On my iPhone 5 the line weight is proportional to the traffic interuption. At least that's what I see on highway routes, which are my main commuting routes of interest. Nope, just took a peek at a surface street section and there's differing red line-weights there as well.

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Well, Apple also does have a desktop 3d map beta because its the new OS-X. It went beta yesterday. btw Iove there new integration of the desktop map with the mobile map. Very well done imo.

Can you customize it? For example can the user manipulate the map with overlays and icons the way you can with the Google Maps API? Can you embed a map into a web page? I don't do beta OS anymore. Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Techstalker View Post
There is no difference between apple and google. Google makes the best software/service package in the known universe.

 

I didn't know the Delusion Express made regular stops here. Guess the line to Insanity is out for repairs or something.

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The hatred for google on this site is amazing, it brings me such joy to see so many crazies get but hurt over a public company.

We get it, but no hurt.

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Make sure you delete your account before you get rid of your Waze app.

When you request an account deletion, they ask you why you want to leave, and I made it clear that the Google acquisition disgusted me.

Ooh, top tip, there. Thanks, I'll do that!

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Same.

Obviously, Google Maps isn't nearly as good as the shills would have one believe otherwise the blatant copying of Apple Maps in the latest Google Maps Beta and the purchase of Waze would be unnecessary.

Mercedes updates even the S Class. And you're a fool if you think that Google maps is a copy of Apple maps since the Apple version is the copy.

Like Street View, you mean¿
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. This is the only article that speaks of it anywhere on the internet and it says it is to get it not that it was ever released.

So you've finished the Internet then? Care to tell us the plot?
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Apple users (which I am one) generally have great affection for their Macs and perceive Google at best as untrustworthy, and at worst, as the enemy.
 

 

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Google maps is getting better and better. I don't see why all the hate towards google.

 

Bigdaddyp about sums it up.

post #74 of 130
Crap.
This is my daily go to app for traffic and routing.
Rethinking that now 1frown.gif
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They only made it available to developers 6 months after apple. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/22/googles-new-3d-maps-destroy-manhattan-in-the-wake-of-apples-flyover.

I'm not convinced they actually implemented either. This is the only article that speaks of it anywhere on the internet and it says it is to get it not that it was ever released.  They even removed all mention of the features for each version.  


I have been using vector based maps on my Android phone for years now.  What was released last month at IO was a desktop vector based Google Maps that integrated Maps and Earth, added some useful "related" search features and a UI facelift.  Take a look at any Android phone released in the last 2 years and see for yourself.

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Google makes the best software/service package in the known universe. The sooner you accept that the better your life will be.

 

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Laughably untrue. Android is a hobbyist joke.

 

The last sentence is particularly so. The only thing missing is "resistance is futile."

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It's the realtime updates (user contributed?) about stoppages, delays etc. that seemed to be Waze's forte.


I have found Google's traffic layer remarkably accurate - at least in Atlanta.  It's much better than the one on my latest Garmin!  I still prefer the Garmin for navigation in the US, but occasionally use Google Navigation when I search for something on the fly.  But I always use Google Maps for traffic.  I like the send to car integration with the Nissan Leaf, but it's still clumsy.  iOS7's car integration looks much better if it indeed hijacks the whole in-car screen.  I find the in-built car navigation to be pretty awful, although again, the one on the Leaf seems to be half way decent and can be used in a pinch.

post #78 of 130
I thikn this was more of an F-U move to FB and Apple, both who could probably use Wazers more than Google (which has that feature in Android, IIRC).
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Originally Posted by steelraven View Post

Google maps is getting better and better. I don't see why all the hate towards google.

Apple Maps is getting better and better as well.
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Google has been collecting traffic data for years.  I'm interested to see what comes from this acquisition.

...collecting personal data for years.
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He is serious. Apple introduced vector maps and 3D flyovers. A year later, Google introduced vector maps and airborne flyovers...

Google had vector maps on Android way before Apple used it, and most 'satellite' views were from a flyover, and vectoring wasn't in the iPhone maps app because Apple chose for it not to be until they made their own app.
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